Defensive ring around baghdad

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lol. Have you heard about the term "The ten commandments"?<span id='postcolor'>

"thou shalt not kill" is one of the ten commandments.  the "13" is the verse number.  

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1. I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt have no strange gods before Me.

2. Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

3. Remember thou, keep holy the Sabbath.

4. Honor thy father and thy mother.

5. Thou shalt not kill.

6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

7. Thou shalt not steal.

8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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LOL, which translation of the Bible is that?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The bible says "Thou shalt not kill" and not "Thou shalt not kill unless you really have a good reason for it."<span id='postcolor'>

No, the Bible says "thou shalt not murder" and also condones warfare several times.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Chill's comment was hardly racist. He made a comment about the US government.<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What mislead fools the US are. <span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You checked the english translation of the bible..

It's also a quite new translation.<span id='postcolor'>

I worship with the english translation.

This is why I didn't want to get into religion, people tend to make me angry when they try to disprove what I believe.  But anyway.

If God didn't want us to go to war, why did the Lord teach warfare to the Israelites?  At which they've done a bang up job I might add.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Llauma @ Jan. 11 2003,04:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 11 2003,04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Denoir is right! USA call them a christian country and they are making war for peace? What mislead fools the US are. <span id='postcolor'>

I don't quite understand you.  Can you type that again?  You mean we call ourselves a Christian Country?<span id='postcolor'>

In god we trust... I think he wants to say that being a christian is more then just calling your self that.

"You shall not kill" is the fifth commandment...<span id='postcolor'>

"In God We Trust" was from a long long time ago.  As FSPilot said, it merely represtents out Christian beginnings.

America could be considered predominantly a Christian Nation.  Yes Christianity is a major religion.  But there is seperation between church and state.

When the people say things like "My God be with you" or "May God be with us", in the current day and age in America, it doesn't have much to do with God at all.  Depending on how it's used in context shows it's meaning.  I can't think of a direct translation of what I mean but I'll try.

And personally, I don't belive in conventional gods.  I'm not atheist.  I know that everything had to have gotten here somehow, but I don't know how.  So I like to leave my mind open  <!--emo&

P.S. We'll try not to turn this into a theological debate.

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1. I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt have no strange gods before Me.

2. Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain.

3. Remember thou, keep holy the Sabbath.

4. Honor thy father and thy mother.

5. Thou shalt not kill.

6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

7. Thou shalt not steal.

8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods.

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LOL, which translation of the Bible is that?

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From http://www.bibleontheweb.com/Bible.asp

Do a search for "covet thy" under the King James version. You'll find the page with the 10 commandments.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. <span id='postcolor'>

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Chill's comment was hardly racist. He made a comment about the US government.<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What mislead fools the US are. <span id='postcolor'>

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From Dictionary.com

rac·ism:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Remember when we discussed the meaning of a Military coup? it seems you are still missusing terms you don't fully understand.

<span style='color:red'>*edit*</span> I still chuckle every time I see the part about not coveting thy neighbor's ass. I guess that may be where the part against homosexuality comes in

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2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 11 2003,102)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do a search for "covet thy" under the King James version. You'll find the page with the 10 commandments.<span id='postcolor'>

I've already provided a link to the Bible that I follow.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it seems you are still missusing terms you don't fully understand.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh does it seem that way?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race

A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.<span id='postcolor'>

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 11 2003,10:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span style='color:red'>*edit*</span> I still chuckle every time I see the part about not coveting thy neighbor's ass. I guess that may be where the part against homosexuality comes in <span id='postcolor'>

Now who's misusing terms.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 11 2003,102)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do a search for "covet thy" under the King James version. You'll find the page with the 10 commandments.<span id='postcolor'>

I've already provided a link to the Bible that I follow.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh right, the "new and revised" version, like God just called up on the hotline and said he wanted to make a few changes .

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it seems you are still missusing terms you don't fully understand.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh does it seem that way?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race

A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.<span id='postcolor'><span id='postcolor'>

lol you truly think there's such a thing as an "American race"? The US is a melting pot of all races and cultures my friend

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 11 2003,10:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh right, the "new and revised" version, like God just called up on the hotline and said he wanted to make a few changes<span id='postcolor'>

The KJV. You wouldn't happen to speak ancient hebrew would you?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol you truly think there's such a thing as an "American race"? The US is a melting pot of all races and cultures my friend <span id='postcolor'>

The U.S. having many nationalities makes it more stupid to pre-judge it, not less.

I can't believe you're trying to justify racism against the U.S., it's amazing.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 11 2003,102)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span style='color:red'>*edit*</span> I still chuckle every time I see the part about not coveting thy neighbor's ass. I guess that may be where the part against homosexuality comes in <span id='postcolor'>

Now who's misusing terms.<span id='postcolor'>

Intentionally, for a bit of humor. Hey but guess what, just to make you happy I repeated my search for the "revised and Standard" version . Here it is, Exodus Chapter 20:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1 And God spoke all these words, saying, 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 "You shall have no other gods before me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain. 8 "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your manservant, or your maidservant, or your cattle, or the sojourner who is within your gates; 11 for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it. 12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your God gives you. 13 "You shall not kill. 14 "You shall not commit adultery. 15 "You shall not steal. 16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. 17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's." 18<span id='postcolor'>

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Alright already! When Chill said all that he was referring to the representation of the US (ie Govt). Can't some of you just accept he was not referring to every single person living in the US?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">lol you truly think there's such a thing as an "American race"? The US is a melting pot of all races and cultures my friend <span id='postcolor'>

The U.S. having many nationalities makes it more stupid to pre-judge it, not less.

I can't believe you're trying to justify racism against the U.S., it's amazing. <span id='postcolor'>

The US having many nationalities just makes it stupid to yell out "racism!" when we critisize your wisdom

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 11 2003,10:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Alright already! When Chill said all that he was referring to the representation of the US (ie Govt).  Can't some of you just accept he was not referring to every single person living in the US?  <span id='postcolor'>

If he was he would of said the U.S. gov't, not "the US"

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Intentionally, for a bit of humor. Hey but guess what, just to make you happy I repeated my search for the "revised and Standard" version . Here it is, Exodus Chapter 20:<span id='postcolor'>

Ok, if God outlaws war, why did he teach the Israelites warfare?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The US having many nationalities just makes it stupid to yell out "racism!" when we critisize your wisdom <span id='postcolor'>

Calling us "fools" like he did is not criticizing our wisdom. It's blatantly inflammatory.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh right, the "new and revised" version, like God just called up on the hotline and said he wanted to make a few changes<span id='postcolor'>

The KJV. You wouldn't happen to speak ancient hebrew would you?<span id='postcolor'>

The first search I did was for the KJV. I suppose you do speak ancient hebrew? It seems to me that www.bible.com would be a pretty knowledgeable source, I've checked 2 versions of it now and came up with the same result.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 10 2003,23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 11 2003,10:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Alright already! When Chill said all that he was referring to the representation of the US (ie Govt). Can't some of you just accept he was not referring to every single person living in the US? <span id='postcolor'>

If he was he would of said the U.S. gov't, not "the US"<span id='postcolor'>

No he would not. Don't you see the flow of grammar he used? How many languages do you or did you speak and how often have you tried to explain something when you are emotional or angry? (don't answer that)

You should be able to tell what he said, what the heck does it mean the way he wrote it? If you take it literally nothing because there is no "the US".

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 10 2003,23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Intentionally, for a bit of humor. Hey but guess what, just to make you happy I repeated my search for the "revised and Standard" version . Here it is, Exodus Chapter 20:<span id='postcolor'>

Ok, if God outlaws war, why did he teach the Israelites warfare?<span id='postcolor'>

What's the answer?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok, if God outlaws war, why did he teach the Israelites warfare?<span id='postcolor'>

That I can't answer since I don't believe in Him. It would make as much sense as if I asked you "If God is really all powerful, can he create a stone that's too heavy for even Him to move?". Let's not turn this into a theological discussion

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The US having many nationalities just makes it stupid to yell out "racism!" when we critisize your wisdom <span id='postcolor'>

Calling us "fools" like he did is not criticizing our wisdom. It's blatantly inflammatory.<span id='postcolor'>

Inflamatory yes, racist no. Now you're getting it

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Stop posting so fast! I'm not that great a typist!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No he would not. Don't you see the flow of grammar he used? How many languages do you or did you speak and how often have you tried to explain something when you are emotional or angry? (don't answer that)<span id='postcolor'>

Ohhh, I get it, so he really loves the U.S. but he didn't speak our language that great. He thinks "fools" means "lovable chocolate happy teddy bears".

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's the answer?<span id='postcolor'>

God doesn't disallow warfare.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That I can't answer since I don't believe in Him. It would make as much sense as if I asked you "If God is really all powerful, can he create a stone that's too heavy for even Him to move?".<span id='postcolor'>

Can atheists make a statement so stupid even THEY won't believe it?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Let's not turn this into a theological discussion <span id='postcolor'>

*head explodes*

(this new avatar is coming in handy)

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Jan. 11 2003,10:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The US having many nationalities just makes it stupid to yell out "racism!" when we critisize your wisdom <span id='postcolor'>

Calling us "fools" like he did is not criticizing our wisdom.  It's blatantly inflammatory.<span id='postcolor'>

Inflamatory yes, racist no. Now you're getting it <span id='postcolor'>

No, it was racist because it was an inflammatory comment against a whole race. And yes, nationalities are races. Ie, the German race.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 10 2003,22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You checked the english translation of the bible..

It's also a quite new translation.<span id='postcolor'>

I worship with the english translation.

This is why I didn't want to get into religion, people tend to make me angry when they try to disprove what I believe. But anyway.

If God didn't want us to go to war, why did the Lord teach warfare to the Israelites? At which they've done a bang up job I might add.<span id='postcolor'>

Must have been a mistake.

EDIT: You are an Israeli? Or did God teach you to fight, put an M16 in your hand, and sent you on a ship?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 11 2003,10:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 10 2003,22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You checked the english translation of the bible..

It's also a quite new translation.<span id='postcolor'>

I worship with the english translation.

This is why I didn't want to get into religion, people tend to make me angry when they try to disprove what I believe.  But anyway.

If God didn't want us to go to war, why did the Lord teach warfare to the Israelites?  At which they've done a bang up job I might add.<span id='postcolor'>

 Must have been a mistake.<span id='postcolor'>

God doesn't make mistakes. This is why I belive in the Bible. People (scientists even ) have gone through it page by page and not found a single hypocrasy in it's lessons.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 10 2003,23:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Jan. 11 2003,10:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 10 2003,22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You checked the english translation of the bible..

It's also a quite new translation.<span id='postcolor'>

I worship with the english translation.

This is why I didn't want to get into religion, people tend to make me angry when they try to disprove what I believe. But anyway.

If God didn't want us to go to war, why did the Lord teach warfare to the Israelites? At which they've done a bang up job I might add.<span id='postcolor'>

Must have been a mistake.<span id='postcolor'>

God doesn't make mistakes. This is why I belive in the Bible. People (scientists even ) have gone through it page by page and not found a single hypocrasy in it's lessons.<span id='postcolor'>

Ya okay! Lets just say we should not try to correct him. If you really believe that God is a living being, you must leave room for error.

EDIT: Alright, too off-topic, no proof for any side can be given. Discussion branch must stop, according to me.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you really believe that God is a living being, you must leave room for error.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes and no. He's alive, but he's not like a human being. Like I said, he's perfect.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">EDIT: Alright, too off-topic, no proof for any side can be given. Discussion branch must stop, according to me. <span id='postcolor'>

I agree.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can atheists make a statement so stupid even THEY won't believe it?<span id='postcolor'>

*sigh* my point was your initial question was stupid and I gave another one of equal stupidity to illustrate that to you. I guess atheist can make stupid statements, but I know for a fact certain christians can. For example:

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">China is on it's way out of communism, and so was the U.S.S.R. when we did perestroika.<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just because they weren't from the military doesn't mean it wasn't a military coup.<span id='postcolor'>

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What gives the US the right to set up/maintain a government for the Cuban people? You think this is right?!? It surprizes you that they took it down??<span id='postcolor'>

Well what's wrong with it? It's obvious that the American government and economy has worked wonderfully so far.<span id='postcolor'>

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No, it was racist because it was an inflammatory comment against a whole race.  And yes, nationalities are races.  Ie, the German race.<span id='postcolor'>

No it wasn't racist. Why? Me moderator, me say not racist. End of story.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Jan. 11 2003,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And yes, nationalities are races.  Ie, the German race.<span id='postcolor'>

Nationalities are not races.. I'm not even sure there is a german race. Maybe you can find some common genetic parts among the german but it's not differing much compared to for an example a dutch. But not that much that you can call it a different race.

America is a mix of Irish, Italian, Hispanic, african, swedes and alot more.

Maybe you could call the indians the american race.