Renagade 0 Posted December 19, 2002 Why bother messing with the slide when if ur that close u could jam ur finger in the trigger or hammer something which would affect both types of pistol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 20, 2002 well, thanx god i'm not a Berreta person. i always get worst shooting with them in movie Rush Hour, what Jackie chan does is he flips the gun holders wrist so that slide is facing downward, and then from there takes the gun away. i really don't recommend such move since the gun is still pointing at the same direction it was pointing at - you. for better technique, look at the scene in 'Heat' where Robert De nero kills a guy in hotem room, and then a police officer points gun at back of his face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pzvg 0 Posted December 20, 2002 Mad, not upset, time does heal All, why yes virginia you can do that, it's been a known fact since the weapon hit the streets <exgirlfriend works for beretta> Question is, Is he close enough? are you fast enough? do you have cojones enough? If the answer to any of the above is no, it DOES NOT WORK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 20, 2002 This is what I use... It's all metal except a plastic handle. It uses 8 shot ring caps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Kane 0 Posted December 20, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Llauma @ Dec. 20 2002,16:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> This is what I use... It's all metal except a plastic handle. It uses 8 shot ring caps!<span id='postcolor'> You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 20, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie! Â <span id='postcolor'> I use these so it's no problem.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peanuckle_00 0 Posted December 20, 2002 Revolvers are good for if you want to give the guy a chance to think about what he's doing. "I could cock this." It also plays as somewhat of a safety measure. If they miss the first shot there's a fair chance you could survive so why not keep revolvers around would be my approach to thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted December 21, 2002 Whenever it came to usage of hand guns in my life I didnt really go through all that thinking process. I want to have a high capacity reliable fast and accurate firearm. No ideology or psychological effect on my opponent, but a reliable source of direct fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted December 21, 2002 I reckon that a .44 magnum'll do ya fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted December 21, 2002 Are you feeling lucky? Well are ya, punk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I reckon that a .44 magnum'll do ya fine <span id='postcolor'> for sure not. If you miss the first shot it will take you some time to target again as your arm is bent behind your shoulder. I prefer a firing rate of 2 shots per 1.5 seconds with no major target loss. The chance to hit an enemy on short distances up to 50 is likely higher when the rate of fire is high and recoil doesnt shock yourself to much. This weapon you offer is a one shot weapon, but no seriouse combat one. In movies maybe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted December 21, 2002 Is it me or is accuracy increased with a revolver when you pre-cock the weapon instead of just pulling the trigger. Â When you don't cock the handle it's just more pulling on the trigger which gets released before the gun shoots, which may throw off your aim. Â I'm not sure though, don't shoot revolvers that much. Â The only range around here is for rifles. -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 21 2002,06:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it me or is accuracy increased with a revolver when you pre-cock the weapon instead of just pulling the trigger. Â When you don't cock the handle it's just more pulling on the trigger which gets released before the gun shoots, which may throw off your aim. Â I'm not sure though, don't shoot revolvers that much. Â The only range around here is for rifles. -_-<span id='postcolor'> true. when i shot a revolver, my instructor told me to see the difference(of pre-cocking). i think it's pretty much same for any gun that has DA/SA capability. i prefer SA since it's lighter trigger pull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted December 21, 2002 Me too, but I figured it'd be too much of a bother in the middle of a firefight. Then again, so would having to shoot twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madmedic 0 Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Dec. 21 2002,06:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it me or is accuracy increased with a revolver when you pre-cock the weapon instead of just pulling the trigger. Â When you don't cock the handle it's just more pulling on the trigger which gets released before the gun shoots, which may throw off your aim. Â I'm not sure though, don't shoot revolvers that much. Â The only range around here is for rifles. -_-<span id='postcolor'> No difference in accuracy,...just a different technique to master. If you have good trigger technique you shouldnt have a problem. It is "easier" for many people to have good trigger technique with a SA weapon...but it is prudent to be proficient in both. All GLOCK pistols are DA only,...and there are DA only versions of alot of other auto pistols also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 21, 2002 or you can get semi autos like CZ 75B that is both DA and SA. much cheaper than glock and has better safety IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Dec. 21 2002,04:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Whenever it came to usage of hand guns in my life I didnt really go through all that thinking process. I want to have a high capacity reliable fast and accurate firearm. No ideology or psychological effect on my opponent, but a reliable source of direct fire.<span id='postcolor'> It depends on what you want to do. If you are robbing somebody then a big intimidating gun might be just the trick For military use - well, if you get to the point of using a handgun, then something has gone very wrong. I would say high capacity and reasonable accuracy are the most important factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It depends on what you want to do. If you are robbing somebody then a big intimidating gun might be just the trick<span id='postcolor'> I guess noone here is after that  </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For military use - well, if you get to the point of using a handgun, then something has gone very wrong.<span id='postcolor'> Not necessarily. We´ve been invited to a family celebration in a country you also know. It turned into a violent assault. We had no rifles with us so we had to use what we had. In this case I was thankful for a high capacity semi. Not the only situation that happened to me btw, I remember searching a bombed facility when fire was laid upon us. The building was very destroyed so my G3 at that time was just to big to go through it without having problems. So I switched to handgun. Good to have them at the right times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Dec. 21 2002,11:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not necessarily. We´ve been invited to a family celebration in a country you also know. It turned into a violent assault.<span id='postcolor'> so you came to US for a redneck family gathering? what were you thinking! what was your pistol during that time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted December 21, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Dec. 21 2002,23:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so you came to US for a redneck family gathering? what were you thinking! Â <span id='postcolor'> LOL I can't wait to get my hands on that Beretta 9mm they issue to pilots now. Hopefully I won't ever have to use it, but still. Good crotch armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted December 21, 2002 P8 The incident happened in Jugoslavia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 21, 2002 nice choice what caliber? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow 6 Posted December 21, 2002 Looks to me like the USP45 std. (or 40) (or 9mm) (can't tell the caliber as only the barrel is the difference pretty much) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted December 21, 2002 Most regular military units use 9mm, I'd bet money that this is what Balschoiw had with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pzvg 0 Posted December 21, 2002 Hell, y'all come to one o' this redneck's family gatherings with only a pistol, and you'll be feeling distinctly, umm, "underdressed" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites