The Iraq Thread

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the U.S. is using EC-130E aircraft to control the airwaves. They are broadcasting a message in Arabic saying, "This is the moment you have all been waiting for" over and over again.

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Iraqi TV is back online.  They're showing propoganda and supposedly Saddam will address the nation in a minute or so.

Edited by FSPilot on Mar. 20 2003,11:31

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hohoho maybe US got control of the airwaves and are showing  a fake saddamn  

[Schoeler 0]

That Al Jazeera broadcast looked suspiciously like a pre-recorded tape to me. No mention about the strike at all. Also ABC news is confirming that the target was Saddam and senior Iraqi leadership.

[Jimboh 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Schoeler @ Mar. 20 2003,06:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the U.S. is using EC-130E aircraft to control the airwaves.  They are broadcasting a message in Arabic saying, "This is the moment you have all been waiting for" over and over again.<span id='postcolor'>

LOL, talk about propaganda...

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Schoeler @ Mar. 20 2003,06:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That Al Jazeera broadcast looked suspiciously like a pre-recorded tape to me.  No mention about the strike at all.  Also ABC news is confirming that the target was Saddam and senior Iraqi leadership.<span id='postcolor'>

Well, it's possible that Saddam didnt even want to dignify the first strike of the US. My take is that if Saddam had been killed in an attack, his top cronies would be offering up a surender pretty fast.

The criminal junior Bush. Saddam might be an evil guy, but that is one hell of a good line.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(In American voice) Uh... hello Iraq... my name is Saddam.

*laughter is heard in the background followed by shushes and "shutup!"s

As you may know, our country is currently getting owned by the US and it's allies. Please remain calm, do not flee to Turkey or Kuwait, do not try to attack the Americans, just surrender and buy US war bonds.

*more laughter and shushing is heard*

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Yeah, it did seem like it could be a pre-recorded tape w/ no mention of the strikes or really anything to tell when it was made. Has Saddam always worn glasses? Also there have been some report that people coming into Jordan from Iraq have said that along the way part of the highway and a refueling station 80 miles outside of Baghdad was "obliterated". Maybe an hour ago there were several people saying that Iraqi artillery south of Basrah was firing on coalition troops that are still in Kuwait.

In Afghanistan a operation has taken place about 20minutes after the inital explosions in Baghad.

[Schoeler 0]

ABC news is getting more accurate information now. They are saying the cruise missiles targeted radar sites and key bunkers and the F-117's bombed a private residence where Saddam was reportedly staying. He did that back in GW1, hiding out in some poor Iraqi citizen's home. Those poor bastards, first they get surprised by Saddam showing up at their house, and then by the U.S. Air Force. I hope they were not just poor unsuspecting Iraqis, but Saddam supporters or Baath Party members.

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Now Al Jazeera is saying that there was an attack on the city of Mosul in northern Iraq forty minutes before the deadline and that Saddam could have been at a palace there.

[Guest]

They're showing footage from Iraq now on Swedish TV. Some panorama images of Baghdad with explosions in the background. Also closeups from something that looks like a very wrecked restaurant   It seems however that it was empty when the Tomahawk hit.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They should broadcast reality TV in Arabic. <span id='postcolor'>

LOL. I think that would be agianst the Geneve conventions.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 20 2003,07:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They're showing footage from Iraq now on Swedish TV. Some panorama images of Baghdad with explosions in the background. Also closeups from something that looks like a very wrecked restaurant   It seems however that it was empty.<span id='postcolor'>

Saw just earlier today a lot of Iraqi's boarding up their businesses and leaving the cities for the "countryside." Let's hope that is true.

Also it is stated that the "shock and awe" airstrikes that were talked about haven't yet started.

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F/A-18F Super Hornets are launching in large numbers from the carriers as I post.

Iraqi TV is down. Iraqi radio is up promising to play an address by Saddam and filling the blank spaces with songs about victory being assured, Iraq being the graveyard for the infidel invaders, and Saddam being the jewel of the arab world and the pride of Iraq.

I always thought the Arab contributions to science, mathematics and literature were the jewel of the Arab world. I guess I was wrong. Thanks Saddam!

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I think it is in the first place.

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It's very good that Iraqi TV is operational, I really hope it remains that way. It gives a much more varied view then having just one source. During Allied Force (Kosovo) there was almost a morning routine of first NATO showing bomb-cam recordings followed by Serb television recording of the damage on the ground. It's far more persuasive to see the effects up close. I really hope that Iraq will be able to provide such pictures.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also it is stated that the "shock and awe" airstrikes that were talked about haven't yet started.<span id='postcolor'>

LOL, let's hope not, unless the "shock and awe" was intended for us, seeing how little the air war is going to do.

[FSPilot 0]

I understand that you want to have more than one source on things, but an Iraqi controlled media probably isn't the most reliable source there is.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Mar. 20 2003,07:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I understand that you want to have more than one source on things, but an Iraqi controlled media probably isn't the most reliable source there is.<span id='postcolor'>

No it's not and neither is US media. So having as many sources as possible is good since they you can cross reference and average out.

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No, but it sure is funny to listen to what they are saying.

Can't wait until U.S. troops are on the outskirts of Baghdad.

"Pay no attention to the armored vehicles rolling to a stop outside your homes, Saddam assures absolute victory, praise Saddam! Jihad! Jihad! Saddam forever!"

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Does anyone else find it laughingly hypocritical that Saddam's speech contained so many religious references when he is so secular and violently oppresses the Shia population? The whole speech was about Jihad, infidels, Allah and quotes from the Koran. I guess he'll resort to anything when his back is to the wall.

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I don't laugh any more then at Bush's reference to "God on our side", "God bless our troops" etc etc

I think that abusing religion in secular matters is appaling no matter if it's Muslims or Christians that do it.

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The funny things is, while I agree with you're point, is that I think Bush really means it.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

In-Depth Analysis of the Bush Administration's Iraq Strategy

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Schoeler @ Mar. 20 2003,07:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The funny things is, while I agree with you're point, is that I think Bush really means it.<span id='postcolor'>

I agree with you. So what's worse? Saddams obvious hypocrisy and abuse of the muslim religion to further his political causes or the genuine christian fundamentalism of Bush?

I might clarify one thing there. I feel that criticism of Saddam on a countless number of points is rather pointless - we all know that he is the evil bad guy. The interesting thing is looking at the guy who tries to present himself as our saviour.

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Well, to be frank, any kind of fundamentalist scares the hell out of me. There's no reasoning with a true believer, whatever they do is right to them because God is on their side. I'd like to have their direct link with God, since they seem to know exactly that he's thinking and wants for us all the time. I'd like to know why he killed my brother at age 28.

Saddam is worthy of ridicule, Bush, fear.

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

In-Depth Analysis of Saddam's Strategy

yea yea, from the same site as tex's source, but at least you got both sides of the story and you can average them out

[edc 0]

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LMAO .

 On a more serious note I wonder if there will be airstrikes throughout the day, or if nothing will happen until tomorrow night when it is assumed that the 'shock and awe' bombing campaign and the ground attack will begin.  There are rumors that a Iraqi division near the Kuwaiti border is about to surrender.  They are about 2/3 of the Iraqi troops in far southern Iraq.