Wwii equipment

[Othin 0]

I've been kicking back today watching History Channel and generally enjoying my day off. Anyways, they just finished a show about Normandy and a few other battles around the area. With all the Germans killed and captured at that point, my question is what was done with all the destroyed and abandoned equipment? Tanks, artillary, vehicles, guns, ammo, etc, what ever became of it? Just curious...

[Harnu 0]

I assume it was all broken down, and re-used. Tanks became scrap, etc.

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Some sent to museums probably to.

[madmedic 0]

Russia ended up with alot of captured German weapons, You can buy WWII K98 Mausers with the Nazi markings still on them from importers who have brought them in from Russia, and other European countries.

Stuff like planes and tanks, are often destroyed, or mothballed

There are PLENTY of places selling WWII relics around.

[Jamesia 0]

yeah, in the museums in Normandy theres loads of like, landing craft and the odd sherman and jeeps and stuff.

[-TU--33ker 0]

a lot of the stuff was used again. smaller countries bought the old weapons. i remember the first issued rifle of the new founded bundeswehr back in 1955. it was a M1 Garand.

the USA used their WW2 weapons again in korea and Vietnam.

[Harnu 0]

I remember seeing in an antique store a WWII uniform. An AT launcher. (not loaded of course) A radio, handgun and a rifle. I was pretty cool, but really expensive.

[ralphwiggum 6]

recycled or scrap metal.

some end up as antics. my local gun dealer has a bazooka on the wall(with the sign-not for retail)

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Recycled! As silly as this might sound it is also very true. Hitler was so rare on metal that he ordered to melt many of the famous statues that were located all over germany. But in German forests you can still find a lot, cause when the war was over people tried to get rid of the stuff as quickly as possible. When I was a child I used to dig up the entire forests and I found helmets, even (pretty useless uniforms), I found ammo and even a grenade. The locations where the flags and paks were located can still be seen, even bunkers are still there.

But of course metal after the war was very precious so all this stuff got melted and reused. But there is still tons to be found here. But all those vehicules can still be bought and are not rare at all!

[Jester983 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Nov. 29 2002,05:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Recycled! As silly as this might sound it is also very true. Hitler was so rare on metal that he ordered to melt many of the famous statues that were located all over germany. But in German forests you can still find a lot, cause when the war was over people tried to get rid of the stuff as quickly as possible. When I was a child I used to dig up the entire forests and I found helmets, even (pretty useless uniforms), I found ammo and even a grenade. The locations where the flags and paks were located can still be seen, even bunkers are still there.

But of course metal after the war was very precious so all this stuff got melted and reused. But there is still tons to be found here. But all those vehicules can still be bought and are not rare at all!<span id='postcolor'>

Do you still have some of the stuff you dug up?

[Balschoiw 0]

There are a lot of guys here still running around with metal detectors to dig out relicts of war. There are trades for that stuff in almost any country. In germany the weapons have to be made useless and then you can pin them onto the wall. Most weapons go to US and GB for collectors as there are the real markets for Nazi relicts. You can buy that stuff on E-Bay or antique weapon shows. By now most of the explosives and ammo dug out are hard to handle as they are in bad condition. But there are still a a lot of them in the ground. Whenever they start to build something in Berlin for example they need to have bombing protocols and bombs are found all the way.

You can check out several internet forums for trade of dug out WW2 goods.

A lot of german tech also was transported into US and UK to build up industry and for research reasons. US for example only where able to drop the bomb at Hiroshima cause U 245 surrendered to US forces after war has ended. It was on it´s way to Japan with two Japanese officers aboard that suicided before surrendering. It´s cargo was the stuff needed from US to build the bomb. Uranium oxide. There were two ships in the region where the german sub received the command to surrender from Admiral Dönitz. One was canadian and the other one US.

The german Sub commander decided to surrender to US and that was a major fault in history when you look at the results of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Anyway almost all of production facilities and machines were built down after the war and brought to winners. UK didnt benefit in long term, as the machines got outdated soon and the major crisis of UK´s economy was in fact also based on this. US took most of german scientist to their country and used them for their own research on nuclear stuff and medical things like developing viruses and b weapons. Double moral didnt count there. In fact they continued with the same experiments that took place here in germany. Even in the 80´s - 90´s US prisoners were used for tests on b weapons.

That all made a great chance for germany as we had to rebuild our factories and science installations with one big difference to the winners of war. We had all new stuff and that enabled germany to get that important in science and industry as it is today.

This link leads to a replica page where they sell german

weapons of WW2. I didnt find any english sites here in germany that would fit for you but you´ll get the idea:

http://pacificcoast.net/~gmax/ordnance/Ordnance.htm

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Nov. 30 2002,03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Even in the 80´s - 90´s US prisoners were used for tests on b weapons.<span id='postcolor'>

Umm,...Im not sure I understand the context of this sentence the way it is written.

Are you saying Germany still had U.S. POWs in the 80s-90s, and tested biological weapons on them?

Or are you saying the U.S. tested biological weapons on prisoners in the 80s-90s?

BTW, here is a link to a place that usually has quite a few WWII rifles for sale: www.aimsurplus.com

[Balschoiw 0]

The US did. Clinton formally has sent out an excuse to these guys as a lot of them were lifelong suffering.

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Nov. 30 2002,04:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The US did. Clinton formally has sent out an excuse to these guys as a lot of them were lifelong suffering.<span id='postcolor'>

Hmmm...provide a link please

[Balschoiw 0]

Ok here are some links:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAM1GRJJ6D.html

http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/starke/fire.html

and a list of medical experiments on people done in the US. These are only the uncovered ones. List may be incomplete.

http://www.healthnewsnet.com/humanexperiments.html

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Jester983 @ Nov. 30 2002,02:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Albert Schweizer @ Nov. 29 2002,05:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Recycled! As silly as this might sound it is also very true. Hitler was so rare on metal that he ordered to melt many of the famous statues that were located all over germany. But in German forests you can still find a lot, cause when the war was over people tried to get rid of the stuff as quickly as possible. When I was a child I used to dig up the entire forests and I found helmets, even (pretty useless uniforms), I found ammo and even a grenade. The locations where the flags and paks were located can still be seen, even bunkers are still there.

But of course metal after the war was very precious so all this stuff got melted and reused. But there is still tons to be found here. But all those vehicules can still be bought and are not rare at all!<span id='postcolor'>

Do you still have some of the stuff you dug up?<span id='postcolor'>

No of course not! My parents made me throw it all away with a good piece of history lesson on Nazi-Germany! But if I would get a spade (and I know where to dig, around 200m from where I live) I wound find at least a helmet and some ammo-belts

[Badgerboy 0]

Dig fool dig!

I require;

1. One 'Fritz' Helmet

2. Two 'Potato Masher' Grenades

3. One pair of Jackboots

4. One Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger II Ausf. B

Königstiger / KingTiger / Tiger II

Sd. Kfz. 182

(No 4 Ideally)

[Badgerboy 0]

Imagine how many Shermans you could pop with this 70ton beauty!

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

"Dig, bastard dig!"

lol

It is gonna take me a few years to get a tank out of the sand! But what I found was a potato-masher when I was around 9 and I wanted to throw it into fire that my brothers had made in the forrest. My brothers stopped me and I got a few mints from the police for handing in a grenade. i wonder what they did with it, I mean you cant just throw it into the garbage.

Oh, my brother went into the forrest behind our house one day telling us he wanted to find a treasure. Well he returned with a box of silver-cutlery! It was from our neighbours who hided it there during the war. When he returned it to that neighbours (the lady was around 75 by then) he too only got a box of mints for cuttlery worth several thousand dollars!

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

Oh I forgot to add that I live right on the border to Holland and Belgium. My city was basically blown to dust in WWII!

[Balschoiw 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When he returned it to that neighbours (the lady was around 75 by then) he too only got a box of mints for cuttlery worth several thousand dollars! <span id='postcolor'>

Hehe ! I would have taken the spade dug out an MG3 plus some ammo , polished it and pursuaded her to rethink her donation

[Badgerboy 0]

Ouch...

I used to live in Weeze, near RAF Laarbruch (In Germany, near the Dutch border). (Long time ago). We used to find loads of scrap metal in the woods nearby, but nothing interesting. Coincidently, the woods were full of boars, nothing like leading them on a frenzied chase onto a cattle grid! (Evil buggers. One actually ripped the tire off my bike)

...we were sick little bastards thinking about it....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But what I found was a potato-masher when I was around 9 and I wanted to throw it into fire that my brothers had made in the forrest<span id='postcolor'>

Those were the days. Throwing anything, and everything into fires to see what happens. (We stopped after the industrial strength solvent incident. Flaming naplam flying everywhere)

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

But luckily you can support my thesis that the german border is still full of that WWII garbage. I thought they gonna think I am telling them fantasy stories

[madmedic 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ Nov. 30 2002,13:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ok here are some links:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAM1GRJJ6D.html

http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/starke/fire.html

and a list of medical experiments on people done in the US. These are only the uncovered ones. List may be incomplete.

http://www.healthnewsnet.com/humanexperiments.html<span id='postcolor'>

I saw nothing in any of those links about BIO WEAPON testing in the 80s, and 90s...(which is what you posted)

The older tests conducted on the prisoners are pretty much common knowledge,...and were done with consent of the prisoners.

Here is a different link to the article about other experimentation, but it has THIS disclaimer at the top of it:

"This collection of research leads has NOT been verified by me, Eleanor White. It came from a site which is not a factual source, in my opinion. However, these entries may be important to those researchers among us as starting points for further investigation:"

http://www.raven1.net/humexper.htm

[Balschoiw 0]

there have been several cases of unknown type injections and tests on prisoners. Private run jails make money with this. That is no secret at all.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here is a different link to the article about other experimentation, but it has THIS disclaimer at the top of it:

"This collection of research leads has NOT been verified by me, Eleanor White. It came from a site which is not a factual source, in my opinion. However, these entries may be important to those researchers among us as starting points for further investigation:"

<span id='postcolor'>

Err sorry but I think healthnewsnet is much more reliable than a women noone knows. Check the healthnewsnet homepage if you find time. It is no conspiracy page or something like that. It is a serious one.

EDIT: I just checked the root of your link

The page is about "mind control"

Sorry but this is a laughter. You referred to a link off a conspiracy and weirdo page