Hand_Solo 18 Posted June 25, 2017 As the title says,do u guys (devs) care about your veteran players? As far as i have seen not a single "Thank you guys" or anything like that and now you put them trough that awful gear grind again.I know some of them don't even have the time or energy to go trough that again and i think the least u can do is give them their level,points and score back that they had before the last wipe.Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAC-GhiIIie 22 Posted June 25, 2017 If the devs gave back "veterans" points and levels that would make it so unfair for new players who have just got into the game now its actually on steam. Think about a level 1 with a TRG vsing a level 25 with a Navid. The idea of the wipe was to start everyone anew and make the game playable for those who have no experience. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hand_Solo 18 Posted June 25, 2017 5 hours ago, TAC-GhiIIie said: If the devs gave back "veterans" points and levels that would make it so unfair for new players who have just got into the game now its actually on steam. Think about a level 1 with a TRG vsing a level 25 with a Navid. The idea of the wipe was to start everyone anew and make the game playable for those who have no experience. Why do u ppl always complain about the weapons?In a game where it takes just a few bullets to kill your target any weapon is as deadly. You now have a lot of level 15-10 vs level 1 players.Does that make it fair? According to you,no so lets just keep every one at level 1 then because "fair".In this game u die a lot from the mistakes u make during that game,not because the other player had a "better" weapon.So please spare me the bullshit about the weapons! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAC-GhiIIie 22 Posted June 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Hand_Solo said: Why do u ppl always complain about the weapons?In a game where it takes just a few bullets to kill your target any weapon is as deadly. You now have level a lot of level 15-10 vs level 1 players.Does that make it fair? According to you,no so lets just keep every one at level 1 then because "fair".In this game u die a lot from the mistakes u make during that game,not because the other player had a "better" weapon.So please spare me the bullshit about the weapons! I NEVER said that it isn't fair. I simply stated that if a veteran player was to jump in with a navid on day 1 it wouldn't be fair. The whole point is to work your way up the ranks while improving your skill. It would be very unfair for someone who has no skill and continuously gets shredded by someone with the best gun in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAC-GhiIIie 22 Posted June 25, 2017 The whole point of playing the game is to have fun right? how is it fun when your being destroyed by someone with max level and good guns. Guns do make a difference in this game. Maybe not much but they definitely do. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hand_Solo 18 Posted June 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, TAC-GhiIIie said: I NEVER said that it isn't fair......... It would be very unfair What?????? A lot of players run in the middle of an open field and then get snipe buy someone on a hill with a dmr and they start to scream that they died because the other player had a better gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tzup 20 Posted June 25, 2017 Actualy Hand_Solo is right, better guns dont make better players. I was also lvl 20 and now i`m back to 10, after i started again from 1. At 20 i got killed by low levels just because i didn't know my enviroment. The game is about Information not just "see and kill" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAC-GhiIIie 22 Posted June 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Hand_Solo said: What?????? A lot of players run in the middle of an open field and then get snipe buy someone on a hill with a dmr and they start to scream that they died because the other player had a better gun. 2 minutes ago, Tzup said: Actualy Hand_Solo is right, better guns dont make better players. I was also lvl 20 and now i`m back to 10, after i started again from 1. At 20 i got killed by low levels just because i didn't know my enviroment. The game is about Information not just "see and kill" again. I NEVER said anything about guns being the only factor. i simply stated that with a better gun it is easier to kill someone is good at the game. or even if they are bad and dont see it coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R0adki11 3949 Posted June 25, 2017 The game data was wiped as it went from a beta game to a full release. Its quite normal in game development terms. Also at the end of the day, a powerful gun doesn't necessary mean a better player. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tzup 20 Posted June 25, 2017 Well even your statement isn`t true TAC-Ghillie. If i blaze in with my MXM 6.5 sniper rifle on a obj i can get killed my one with a Tire 1 assault rifle... just because i have less bullets then him, and don't secure my surroundings or... you figure out the other factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAC-GhiIIie 22 Posted June 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Tzup said: Well even your statement isn`t true. If i blaze in with my MXM 6.5 sniper rifle on a obj i can get killed my one with a Tire 1 assault rifle... just because i have less bullets then him, and don't secure my surroundings or... you figure out the other factors. Like I said. Im not disagreeing with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tzup 20 Posted June 25, 2017 Anyway i get your point. The "veterans" should have something more to "show off". Like a badge or something because they played in the beta game. Or a cool cap :P or a red silancer :)))) Hmmm or a silencer with kill marks on it :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ITokyYourCookie 299 Posted June 26, 2017 On 2017-6-25 at 3:14 AM, Hand_Solo said: As the title says,do u guys (devs) care about your veteran players? As far as i have seen not a single "Thank you guys" or anything like that and now you put them trough that awful gear grind again.I know some of them don't even have the time or energy to go trough that again and i think the least u can do is give them their level,points and score back that they had before the last wipe.Cheers Stats wipe was announced long time ago, and it's absolutely normal when games go from beta or our case prototype to full release. I thank our players everywhere I can, and if you payed attention, there was a special thanks to veterans on Welcome screen when you first load the game after release. The stats will no be given back, as all players need to start from the same spot. We do plan to have a achievement for our veterans when we implement them (soon). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuDDiovitcH 8 Posted June 27, 2017 Well, I've been playing since the alpha i know it can be a bit annoying to restart your gears, I see your point. But still the game is already free and it's far enough to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites