The Forgotten Battles

[Othin 0]

So I wandered into Best Buy today (first mistake) and decided I wanted to look at games (second mistake). Half an hour later I was dazedly stumbling out of Best Buy with a SaitekX45 combo, Forgotten Battles, Freelancer, and a 182 dollar hole in my pocket

Anyways, what should I know about the game ahead of time? Are there any MUST HAVE downloads for it yet? The website is pretty confusing as to which downloads I need...

[Renagade 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 14 2003,11:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Mar. 14 2003,11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 14 2003,18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you had infinite ammo on, didn't you? Cheater <!--emo&<span id='postcolor'>

She might have been using one of the bomb dispensing systems for the IL-2 on the other hand. Their is some anti-armour system or something that has 96 bomblets.<span id='postcolor'>

The cassette? True, that is a bit of a cluster type munition. But since she said ad infinitum, I figured she meant for a loooooooooong time.<span id='postcolor'>

u also got the 50xAo and ptab thingies in il-2 not sure about fogotten battles becuase it still aint here

What kind of damage does the vap flamer bombs do,i had some guy chasing me when i had an il-2 equiped with them,toasty enemy ground attacks ,and this guy was right on my six but i was all over the place so he couldn`t get a good shot in so i let the flamers go and he was right in the middle of it but it done jack shit to his plane

oh and the training missions seem bugged for me(il-2 updated to 1.2) the planes seem to crash halfway through the training mission or crash when taking off

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Mar. 14 2003,23:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So I wandered into Best Buy today (first mistake) and decided I wanted to look at games (second mistake).  Half an hour later I was dazedly stumbling out of Best Buy with a SaitekX45 combo, Forgotten Battles, Freelancer, and a 182 dollar hole in my pocket

Anyways, what should I know about the game ahead of time?  Are there any MUST HAVE downloads for it yet?  The website is pretty confusing as to which downloads I need...<span id='postcolor'>

Forgotten Battles does not have any updates yet as far as I know. And since FB includes Il-2 and all its updates, you are good to go at the moment.

It only takes you half an hour? I can spend hours in Best Buy agonizing over 3 or 4 choices unless I know exactly what I want.

[Othin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 14 2003,14:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Forgotten Battles does not have any updates yet as far as I know. And since FB includes Il-2 and all its updates, you are good to go at the moment.

It only takes you half an hour? I can spend hours in Best Buy agonizing over 3 or 4 choices unless I know exactly what I want.<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, I just figured that out. I looked on the page and saw that there were updates past 1.0 and made an assumption, thanks for the heads up though.

Tough going so far, in between getting used to the joystick and all the controls, I usually end up getting lost or spiriling out of control to the ground Still tons of fun though!

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Mar. 14 2003,23:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the training missions seem bugged for me(il-2 updated to 1.2) the planes seem to crash halfway through the training mission or crash when taking off <span id='postcolor'>

An unfortunate side effect of the Il-2 patches is that they corrupt tracks and training missions recorded on previous versions. The training missions were made in version 1.0. If you've upgraded Il-2 to 1.2, they're ruined.

*edit* There are lots of community made training missions available for download however, and no, there isn't a patch for Forgotten Battles yet so I suggest anyone who recently

got the game should go through the training missions before they patch up.

Oh BTW, you guys see the new damage model pictures posted

on the il2 site today? It's crazy, you can see individual engine components!

http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgott....dm2.jpg

http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgott....dm3.jpg

http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgott....dm4.jpg

[Aaron Kane 0]

Something really cool I found while browsing through the FB files...

There is a file called "DGen_Readme.txt" in the DGen directory which is inside your Forgotten Battles folder.  In this file, there are instructions on how to modify your Dynamic Campaign, such as increasing air traffic or ground units, the average distance flown to get to your targets, and overall campaign difficulty.

Cool stuff

[Tovarish 0]

Speaking of Dynamic campaigns, how about an online Dynamic Campaign for Forgotten Battles?

Check out the Scorched Earth website and make sure you watch the two trailers! (make sure you have time though, both trailers combined run to over 23 minutes! ) Their release date is listed as 6-8 weeks after the release of Forgotten Battles, and apparently they're testing internally with success. This should be a blast

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Man, DCs rule. One of our most recent missions, my 8-man flight had to intercept a Soviet strike package of 16 aircraft. Sixteen! 8 P39s from a Guards regiment, and another 8 I-16s. We got lucky and managed to cut about 8 of them from the herd, and after shooting them all down, we decided to cut our losses and head home. Final score: II/Jg52: 8, Commies: 4

Not too bad, but not good enough.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

I'm having trouble saving my mission tracks. It seems like every time I try to save a track, the game freezes up and I have to kill Il-2 and try again. This wouldnt be so bad, but the only time you can save a track is directly after the mission but before you apply the results to your DC. This can make for some screaming/keyboard-throwing sessions

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 16 2003,00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm having trouble saving my mission tracks. It seems like every time I try to save a track, the game freezes up and I have to kill Il-2 and try again. This wouldnt be so bad, but the only time you can save a track is directly after the mission but before you apply the results to your DC. This can make for some screaming/keyboard-throwing sessions  <span id='postcolor'>

Solution- finish a mission, hit "Save track" and take a coffe break. A lot of people are reporting it takes about 10 minutes to save a full mission track.

[Col. Kurtz 0]

Well I don't think I'll be bothering to save my tracks...

Just four more days until FB is *supposed* to come out here

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Mar. 16 2003,00:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I don't think I'll be bothering to save my tracks...<span id='postcolor'>

I use the "quick save" option when I encounter the enemy as opposed to recording the whole flight. Of course, the only one of those tracks I wanted to view - me successfully ramming a 109 without damaging my plane - came out corrupt

[Othin 0]

My career as a German aviator so far.  Needless to say I need a bit more training.  I wasn't expecting that much torque  I think I actually crashed right behind where I started taxiing.  It was a blur, what with all the skidding along on one wing and all.  

I'm somewhat disapointed in the training missions as they're just movies.  Oh well, back to the fray!

[Col. Kurtz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Mar. 16 2003,11:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm somewhat disapointed in the training missions as they're just movies.  Oh well, back to the fray!<span id='postcolor'>

Are you sure about that? In IL2 the original, it starts off as a movie then you get to take control after the AI has demonstrated the correct way to do the training mission.

For example, if your taking off, the AI will do it the first time then you have to do it. Maybe this has changed.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Hell yeah...

As of August 12th, 1942, I have just scored my 99th, 100th, 101st, and 102nd kills. I even managed to record it lol.

My stats:

11 LaGG-3s

39 I-16s

1 SB-2

13 Yak-1s (split evenly between 1s and 1Bs)

13 I-153s

4 Il-2s

3 Pe-2s

12 Mig-3UDs

1 U-2VS

1 DB-3

4 P-39Ns

43 Missions

[Col. Kurtz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 16 2003,14:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hell yeah...

As of August 12th, 1942, I have just scored my 99th, 100th, 101st, and 102nd kills. I even managed to record it lol.

My stats:

11 LaGG-3s

39 I-16s

1 SB-2

13 Yak-1s (split evenly between 1s and 1Bs)

13 I-153s

4 Il-2s

3 Pe-2s

12 Mig-3UDs

1 U-2VS

1 DB-3

4 P-39Ns

43 Missions<span id='postcolor'>

You really are a showoff

You and Tovarish should make a book describing all your missions. You do the German side and Tovarish covers the VVS

[Tex -USMC- 0]

As soon as you get FB I'll send you the file

[Col. Kurtz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 16 2003,14:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As soon as you get FB I'll send you the file <span id='postcolor'>

*Ouch*

Sit back and watch Tex Uber Alles in his daring WW2 fighter pilot exploits? Could be interesting

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Mar. 16 2003,06:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You and Tovarish should make a book describing all your missions. You do the German side and Tovarish covers the VVS <span id='postcolor'>

Not a bad idea but I really don't know if I have the time . We'll see. Not going to now because I'm damn tired, stayed up playing longer than I should have and I work tomorrow

Well, after 16 days of fighting the Luftwaffe over Leningrad, we were sent on our first mission over Finland, escorting a recon plane. I was kind of nervous because I knew we'd run into either the Brewster Buffalo or the Morane, and I really didn't know what to expect from those planes. As it turns out, the seven of us were attacked by 11 Buffalos, and well....I was a bit underwhelmed . A few minutes later it we were all flying back home and Finland had 11 less Brewster Buffalos. (didn't they only recieve 30-40 from the US? Ouch! That had to hurt! The one thing that surprized me about the Buffalo was that it seemed to have better low speed maneuverability than our I-16's. Other than that....these things were more fragile than the MiG-3 used to be in IL-2! At least the MiG had the courtesy to catch fire for a bit when it was hit, I accounted for two of the Buffalos myself and both simply exploded after a 1 second burst from 6 o' clock at close range! I would have shot down a lot more if the rest of my flight didn't down them just as quickly.

*edit* oh by the way, promoted to Starshiky Lietnant and awarded the Gold Star of Hero of the Soviet Union

[Col. Kurtz 0]

Your a showoff too!

Your just doing it do prove how much better pilots you are than me

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ Mar. 16 2003,07:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Mar. 16 2003,14:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As soon as you get FB I'll send you the file <span id='postcolor'>

*Ouch*

Sit back and watch Tex Uber Alles in his daring WW2 fighter pilot exploits? Could be interesting <span id='postcolor'>

Hmm, I'm looking back through the track, and for some reason it's messed with the time compression when you have manual tc off. In parts it slows it all the way down to 1/4X- is there a way to change this? No problems though if you select manual tc.

edit: ah crap, while I was messing with the file I managed to corrupt it. Looks like I'll have to film a different mission...

[theavonlady 2]

Do any of you report these bugs/glitches to the developers and do you get feedback?

[Tex -USMC- 0]

My problem wasn't the game; I managed to mess it up on my own

[Aaron Kane 0]

Well I restarted my campaign as a German pilot. Now I'm doing the Central campaign, and I changed it so I'll get a FW190 as soon as its available, and use it for the rest of the war

I've come to the conclusion that I16's are invulnerable to the MG17 rounds. I dont mean highly tolerant, I mean completely invulnerable. I've seen BF110's and BF109's empty their entire load into an I16's wings without so much as a scratch...

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aaron Kane @ Mar. 16 2003,22:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've come to the conclusion that I16's are invulnerable to the MG17 rounds.  I dont mean highly tolerant, I mean completely invulnerable.  I've seen BF110's and BF109's empty their entire load into an I16's wings without so much as a scratch...<span id='postcolor'>

Believe it or not, I did shoot down one I-16 exclusively with MG17s. I think it was a pilot-kill though, and it certainly wasn't spectacular or anything; it just kind of rolled over and dove into the ground.