reforger 30 Posted September 16, 2015 Hello, after I was shot down in a multiplayer mission, although I deployed flares, I wondered if there are flight procedures to lower the chances to get hit. Is it good to fly a hard curve while deploying the flares or should I fly straight forward? Best regards reforger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eduzumaki 12 Posted September 16, 2015 Well there's dslyecxi art of flight videos here you can find some good information https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQEd6zRLOafVn1SweJmdr-3ICqI885awY.A good technic is to fly low and fast while using the terrain cover and deploy flares not too late. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sodien 15 Posted September 17, 2015 Fast is a good start and low prevents you from getting spotted and locked. If you have to fly into a danger zone, the slower you need to go( eg. for a landin) the lower you need to be, of course this makes you more vulnerable to things that normally don't target you. I would estimate that less than 20% of the AA launched at me hits when I fly solo, and that percentage is a lot lower when I have my co-pilot that I can work closely with. There are my personal guidelines. Always know where the highest concentration of enemies are. If you need to get close, get low or high(300m+). If you are going in for a landing in a hot area where missiles are likely, have one or more planned paths of high acceleration that lets you mask and doesn't result in you gaining altitude. Never ever slow down below 70-ish% of march speed, this way if you notice incoming missiles you have a decent base speed to use for evading. When locked: If conditions are good you will notice a lock-on signal before the missile is launched. Pick up speed and prepare to react! Incoming missile: Your first task is, of course, to drop flares as you already know. I usually pop as many flares as I can afford(this depends on the missions rules for resupply but rarely do I deploy more than 3 bursts). Next on your list is to get out of the space you previously occupied. If you are flying at a high speed, push your nose down and start a turn away from where the missile is coming from(if you have not managed to do so make a guess, turning towards the missile is better than not turning). Note that you do not want to make to sharp a turn as that will kill speed and make you an easy target for missile number 2. When you are flying at medium or low speeds but at a reasonable height for a landing or such, but have yet started to bleed to much speed, you want to make a sharp turn and dive as sharply as the terrain allows, to pick up speed and if the flares didn't work it will increase the chance to put something between you and the missile. As with high speed evasion, if you can, move away from the direction of the launcher. Should you find yourself in the final stages of landing, you need to make a extremely sharp turn and quick flare(as in stop the heli) and set down. Setting down is the fastest way to get safer if you have a good understanding of your LZ and have practiced "panic" landings. As you get more comfortable with making snap calls in these situations your mortality rate will drop dramatically In short: Before missile; altitude, speed and battlefield awareness. During missile; drop flares, displace your helicopter, escape. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reforger 30 Posted September 17, 2015 On 9/16/2015 at 6:24 PM, eduzumaki said: Well there's dslyecxi art of flight videos here you can find some good information https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQEd6zRLOafVn1SweJmdr-3ICqI885awY. A good technic is to fly low and fast while using the terrain cover and deploy flares not too late. On 9/17/2015 at 6:41 PM, sodien said: In short: Before missile; altitude, speed and battlefield awareness. During missile; drop flares, displace your helicopter, escape. Thank you for your helpful suggestions. I will try your tactics and hopefully the next time I survive. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthplageuis 0 Posted October 7, 2016 Hello, I just started playing Arma 3. I have Apex and Zeus, and during my time practicing flying a Helo I found my self being the pin cushion of a few missiles. Fortunately the first 5 missed, but not without damaging one of my engines, the sixth one hit true and blew me out of the sky. I have been scouring the keyboard controls for the button I need to push for flares, but I have yet to find it. Can any of you tell me how to deploy my flares for the NATO helos and for CSAT Helos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankbuster 1747 Posted October 7, 2016 At the risk of being pedantic, OP was probably shot down by a missle, not a rocket. Missiles are guided, rockets (usually) are not. the tactics for evading are very different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineptaphid 6413 Posted October 7, 2016 On 10/7/2016 at 9:20 AM, darthplageuis said: Hello, I just started playing Arma 3. I have Apex and Zeus, and during my time practicing flying a Helo I found my self being the pin cushion of a few missiles. Fortunately the first 5 missed, but not without damaging one of my engines, the sixth one hit true and blew me out of the sky. I have been scouring the keyboard controls for the button I need to push for flares, but I have yet to find it. Can any of you tell me how to deploy my flares for the NATO helos and for CSAT Helos? I believe the default key is "C". Look in the control options for "countermeasures" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
war_lord 934 Posted October 7, 2016 It should probably be said that flares are not the magic anti-missile field that many players seem to assume them to be. Situational awareness and knowing how to evade is still critical. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theo1143 18 Posted October 9, 2016 On 10/7/2016 at 5:36 PM, war_lord said: It should probably be said that flares are not the magic anti-missile field that many players seem to assume them to be. Situational awareness and knowing how to evade is still critical. While this is definitely true, a well timed flare does half the work... Just make sure you flare at the moment they shoot the rocket, not when it is close as many do. But again flying without flares ain't a problem to as-long you use the terrain to you advantage... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kai Hussin 0 Posted October 31, 2016 In dcs we would always try to fly perpendicular to any known missile threats. Once fired we start deploying chaffs and flares, speed up and continue flying perpendicular to the missile's flight path and then turn in towards the missile at the last second. The goal is to make the missile perform a tighter turn as possible to track you. Then at the last second its almost impossible for it to adjust course when you sharply turn towards it. And don't fly away from missiles it make it easy for them to just follow and hit you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites