Rydygier 1309 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) I avoided MP as much, as possible, so have knowledge near 0 about this stuff. I would like to know, are out there any not passworded opportunities to make some MP lone wolfing? I mean playing with other players, but apart from them. No communication required, no teamspeak, no coop, no need for arranging session with anyone on certain hour, no strict PvP either - just silently hop in and play - something like A2's DayZ - you're alone amongst other loners doing own stuff with only occasional interactions. Nothing like "let's do this together". And I mean - interesting (Life certainly isn't, AFAIK). Why I'm asking - although mainly ignoring whole MP, sometimes I have a mood and time to try something new. But in such case typical lone wolf will look for something loner-friendly at first. Whereas I found whole Arma's MP world pretty hermetic (inaccessible) from my perspective. It's exactly my case - few times so far had such mood, but never found good place to try. With very short, episodical exception of mentioned DayZ in A2 (but I'm getting something inbetween wonderment, disgust and intense yawning each time I'm faced with example of this most weird worldwide fixation around foot mobile human corpses (why not motorized?)). Conclusion - existence of such kind of gameplay may bring more interested people from SP to MP, especially those non-English speaking through SP-friendly and inviting gate of such kind of servers/missions. If that's desired of course... Edited January 21, 2015 by Rydygier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jshock 513 Posted January 21, 2015 Wasteland? And on CO-OPs such as I&A there isn't much of a requirement to "work" with other people, but in any case I think your still going for much more overall SP style than MP, so I assume my comment is redundant :p. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badluckburt 78 Posted January 21, 2015 Interesting question. Sadly, I'm not aware of any servers / gamemodes apart from the already mentioned DayZ mod and Wasteland that offer that kind of gameplay but I'll keep an eye on this thread in case something interesting pops up :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galzohar 31 Posted January 21, 2015 There are plenty. They are actually the most popular... But even in those you will be often be much more effective with a proper team. In addition to what was mentioned, you have EUTW and King of the Hill, and probably the life mods sort of count too. Even more tactical game modes such as DTAS and TACBF don't exactly force you to play with the group and communicate. But they do have more specific missions that you should be focusing on rather than running around exploring the world, and will give you a much more obvious disadvantage for not working with the team. But it's still a good way to start - Play serious PvP missions alone, and when you feel like it take it to the next level and try to support the team and see how you like it. You can find relevant videos in my channel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydygier 1309 Posted January 21, 2015 OK, thanks guys. But note, when you're talking about EUTW, DTAS or TACBF I've no slightest idea, what are you talking about. :) Anoter reason, why MP seems so hermetic BTW for a layman. About teamplay - it's not about I'm not prepared to play in a team (this may be true too though). I do not want to play in team with anybody and do not want, any other there would expect from me such teamplay. Nor strictly against. As for now I just want to play apart from other players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terox 316 Posted January 21, 2015 The whole point of MP play is socialising and teamwork. S.P lonewolfing should live in the SP world where you don't effect those trying to work as a team. Having said that, I would say that most "Public" servers don't run with any consistency and discipline, and have very few if any decent admins, which is ideal for the typical public player that wants to lone wolf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydygier 1309 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) The whole point of MP play is socialising and teamwork. Not for me. S.P lonewolfing should live in the SP world where you don't effect those trying to work as a team. But that's the point - to have an MP gameplay, where I would not troll anyone wanting teamplay with my lonewolfing. It's about gameplay that assumes/accepts by definition no team play. I certainly don't want to spoil a fun for any team players by going solitaire, where team cooperation is expected. Having said that, I would say that most "Public" servers don't run with any consistency and discipline, and have very few if any decent admins, which is ideal for the typical public player that wants to lone wolf. OK, it's bad and good. Good, so most public servers would be good place for such weirdos as me, bad - so there is no decently moderated servers. I wonder, why BI doesn't run own official servers... Or it does? So, for now as for specifics most interesting is that Wasteland thingy... Edited January 21, 2015 by Rydygier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SG_Smokintodd 0 Posted January 21, 2015 I'm all for bringing more people to MP, especially PvP, so I'll reiterate what galzohar said and suggest King of the Hill (KotH). It's very 'lone wolf' friendly and really, the only thing you have to do is make sure you're on the cap. I play it by myself some nights when all my clan mates are 10 toes up. Filter server name: Hostile. You'll find a whack of servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badluckburt 78 Posted January 21, 2015 OK, it's bad and good. Good, so most public servers would be good place for such weirdos as me, bad - so there is no decently moderated servers. I wonder, why BI doesn't run own official servers... Or it does? I'm not sure if you'll find what you're looking for here: http://arma3.com/servers but they do run their own servers. I think what you're after is a true multiplayer sandbox that is not necessarily PvP but also not necessarily co-op oriented. It would be a hard thing to balance and would very much depend on the crowd it attracts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydygier 1309 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) I think what you're after is a true multiplayer sandbox that is not necessarily PvP but also not necessarily co-op oriented. It would be a hard thing to balance and would very much depend on the crowd it attracts. Yep. Exactly. I would perhaps create my own if not my fundamental MP scripting indolence. :) Well, DayZ for sure was of that kind and was able to attract the crowd. Or that was the zombies so attractive. :) I'm wondering, would be possible to build something like that eg around ALiVE (not sure, what kind of gameplay they offer currently)? I'm not sure if you'll find what you're looking for here: http://arma3.com/servers but they do run their own servers. I see there for example some "Chimera" servers running that "Wasteland" something... Edited January 21, 2015 by Rydygier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badluckburt 78 Posted January 21, 2015 I'd be willing to help you out with that. I'm not that familiar with MP scripting yet but I know the basics and I learn fast. The zombies were part of my own attraction to DayZ but it was more the uncertainty of what one might run into logging onto a server. I lone-wolfed for quite some time before joining a community and even then I was usually on my own, occasionally helping out others so I know where you're coming from :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydygier 1309 Posted January 21, 2015 I'd be willing to help you out with that. I'm not that familiar with MP scripting yet but I know the basics and I learn fast. That sounds cool. SP scripting from the other hand is not a problem for me mostly, so who knows? I could write something for SP, then could be transformed into MP. Whole new year ahead, all awaiting projects don't call me too insistentlyfor now, only one, not related with Arma and not too time consuming on my "desk"... Just to find some sweet recipe/concept. We'll see. :) But now, I'm still looking for such things already existing, if any. It would be even better to see first ready solutions. I feel, I would like to know more about that Wasteland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djotacon 190 Posted January 21, 2015 @Rygygier I've been studying your work carefully iin Arma 3 and sincerely believe that if anyone can bring one of the missions that add to the missions from the point of view of the lone wolf is you . I played only Arma 2 and Arma 3 for years and the overall experience is horrible. My opinion is that these games harshly punish solo players and encourage team play . If you go to work on creating a gameplay that really makes a difference for solo players 'll be the first to applaud . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badluckburt 78 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) That sounds cool. SP scripting from the other hand is not a problem for me mostly, so who knows? I could write something for SP, then could be transformed into MP. Whole new year ahead, all awaiting projects don't call me too insistentlyfor now, only one, not related with Arma and not too time consuming on my "desk"... Just to find some sweet recipe/concept. We'll see. :)But now, I'm still looking for such things already existing, if any. It would be even better to see first ready solutions. I feel, I would like to know more about that Wasteland. Not a problem, research is always good :) If you do decide to get started on it some time in the future and are looking for some help, you've got mine. I agree with djotacon, the SP stuff you put out is on the top of my list which reminds me, I need to play the MP Pilgrimage with a friend. - edit - Is there even a MP Pilgrimage? I remember seeing it but I'm starting to wonder if it was a dream, I can't seem to find it in the thread and I'm not about to go through 100+ pages :D Edited January 21, 2015 by BadLuckBurt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jshock 513 Posted January 21, 2015 My opinion is that these games harshly punish solo players and encourage team play . TBH that's because the game isn't geared toward lone-wolf gameplay in the first place, even thought they have the SP campaign you still play with a team of AI (most of the time). Remember that game types such as your Dayz or Wasteland were user-made addons/alterations to help gear the game towards your survival/lone-wolf type gameplay, I believe it isn't the original intent of the developers to make a lone-wolf geared game, but they did gear it so that users like us can go in and make the game play how we want it to play. Arma 3 vanilla with no modifications and played for it's original intent is supposed to be a military simulation game, and I don't know of any militaries that have one man armies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydygier 1309 Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) I don't know of any militaries that have one man armies. Supposedly king of Sparta had that habit to send a single spartan as an army to aid his allies in need. :) But even him had them more. Yes, indeed, but IMO the main intention of BI is, as they said at least once, is to provide a platform, on which player could adjust whatever he need, along with default setting, that is as you said, but that's just attachement to the moddable core. At least that's how I perceive this game. And true, for sure my projects was always focused on my main interest - that's playing solo exactly, so the experience, thus there is some hope... Edited January 21, 2015 by Rydygier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jshock 513 Posted January 21, 2015 Yep I believe the same, I was just responding to the comment "harshly punish solo players", as that isn't true, you just have to make it to your liking :). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EO 11277 Posted January 21, 2015 Just the name of your thread...."Solitary MP"....conjures up an intriguing sounding gamemode that hasn't been created yet......here's hoping you have an other "Pilgrimage" type epiphany....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galzohar 31 Posted January 21, 2015 First, hitting up google with the keywords "Arma 3" and any of those game modes (DTAS, TACBF, EUTW) will send you right into your answers. But to help you a bit more: DTAS: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?153398-Dynamic-Take-And-Secure-Randomized-Round-Based-No-Respawn-A-amp-D Also more DTAS videos in my channel at my signature. TACBF: http://www.tacticalbattlefield.net/forum/ EUTW: http://www.eutw.net/index.php?id=home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terox 316 Posted January 23, 2015 FYI Dwarden does run some official B.I servers, these are mainly used for server optimisation testing but are open for public play.. I'm not sure how well they are run or what content they host. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
