FGM-148 Javelin, can we fix it?

[AlexVestin 24]

That was the kind of thread I've been trying to find, thank you. Will try the solution in there ASAP :)

Regarding the Javelin. I can't get this to work:

		lockAcquire = 1;

Determines if rocket launcher locks automatically a target or player has to use RMB.

0 = automaticLA (current rocket launcher system)

1 = manually (use RMB)

My Javelin automatically lock onto a target if it is within my sight.

I'm trying to have it try a lock if I aim at a target, then press my key defined for locking targets.

My config settings can as always be found on the first page incase incase someone might know about it. I myself do not know if something can override my settings and make it autolock anyways.

Edited November 15, 2013 by AlexVestin

[saltatormortis 12]

i want you to ask wil you simulate the weapon on a proper realism grade?

with realism grade i mean:

- battery for CLU (max 4h)

- turn on nightmode takes 2.5 to 3.5 minutes

- limitet (4 min) battery coolant unit after entering time search mode [rocket will not launch until bcu exchanged]

- proper reload times(with/without animation)

(data collected because i wanted try it maybe by myself)

i hope you add a secondary optic for peeking over the lowered weapon for faster target acquisition.

will you take measurments from the reality or arma?

keep your work up.

[AlexVestin 24]

If I could have it as I wanted, I'd have it close to how it works IRL, but that is probably not an easy task and I can't do that myself. Someone will have to step fourth and do scripts like that since my knowledge in that area is limited.

[bravo93 37]

One thing that frustrated me with the Arma 2 Javelin was that you couldn't lock onto buildings. That and the fact there was literally no splash damage so say you had a group of infantry all within 5 metres of eachother and you hit one you'd literally only kill the guy you locked onto. Would be good if you could change this.

[LoseBummer 4]

I've been looking for a higher-res picture showing the back of the CLU. I've seen that there's a large green sticker there. Probably instructions on it?

Since you'd be having this thing up in your face it would be kinda neat to have something to look at.

This is the best reference I've found so far: http://pszwarc.com/graphics/jav_clu_handle.jpg

My test with something like it:

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/7370/w3kj.jpg

My test sticker is super low-res. I want something better :)

I'm not going to increase the overall resolution for the weapon system, it's already 2048x2048. I could double it, but it isn't really needed for anything else besides for making the instructional text readable in that case. I could always make a thin geometry added specificly for any stickers if their text is unreadable at a 2048x2048 resolution. If someone knows where a pic of that green sticker can be found, please, do link :)

Anyhow, is there somehow I could increase the texture quality in the Oxygen (buldozer) viewer? I have pressed + and - and it does increase texture resolution displayed, but it does not show full resolution still.

Here's also just a WIP picture of the interface, with coloured buttons:

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/8193/6u8k.png

Great work, it may help, but only i can find this image from cod, and the label its only factory information:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120312031446/callofduty/images/8/8c/FGM-148_Javelin_MW3.png

I found in scridb the tecnical manual operator for the GUI of the CLU;

http://es.scribd.com/doc/36176275/TM-91425-688-10-M98-Javelin-Weapon-System

This is from the south korean comparision with their launcher: site

image1

image2

image3

I hope its helps

Edited November 18, 2013 by mrnchvs

[Przemro 18]

Small question, could you also add this as update to your US units? I would love to have this all in one addon. :D

[Rages123 10]

This is very cool, 2 quick questions

1. Will this one have TOP fire attack mode like in arma 2 with ACE

2. Will this beable to target any thermal signature and lock on it like vehicles / helicopter / foot mobiles like in arma 2 ACE

thanks

[slatts 1978]

For the sticker on the back of the CLU, this also might help :)

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/guitaro-man/DSCN2022_zps01dca1d4.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/guitaro-man/DSCN2024_zps49e9a425.jpg

[LoseBummer 4]

I have a question regarding the fgm-148 and the fire procedure; its possible to take all the different parts from the FGM and use it in attachment mode?

I mean, you have CLU (Main weapon, optics, only clu interface like show in the slatts pics), Tube (magazine, to reload you have to change the tube completely) and the forward end cap (for secure transportation, and attachment that has to be drop to fire).

Its possible? The simple purpose is to avoid the unrealistic timing of quick mount, acquire target and firing.

Here the Army´s Field Manual in pdf.

I apologize for my english.

Edited November 18, 2013 by mrnchvs

[AlexVestin 24]

The pictures linked in the thread are great. I'll look through this when I've got some time again. Will surely help a lot. Thank you :)

One thing that frustrated me with the Arma 2 Javelin was that you couldn't lock onto buildings. That and the fact there was literally no splash damage so say you had a group of infantry all within 5 metres of eachother and you hit one you'd literally only kill the guy you locked onto. Would be good if you could change this.

I do believe I've got the damage and splash damage sorted. Atleast better. Not the actual lock mechanics, though.

Edited November 19, 2013 by AlexVestin

[rinkia 10]

thank you mrnchvs, for this great Army's Field Manual. there are all the info for coders to start doing something really nice.

it'll be a great mod, thank you AlexVestin!!

[merc591 10]

not to hit your thread with a stopper just bringing it up the actual javelin has crosshairs like so http://gorillavid.in/89c0yrqwhj1y watch from 2:40 to 11:19 this is a tv show called future weapons and it includes a live test firing of the weapon as well as crosshair shot i advise you watch the entire video from the two designated time points its a very good walkthough of the system not many shots of the CLU though :P

crosshair shot at 3:13 through 3:40

thanks for all the work on the mod cant wait for finish ;)

[AlexVestin 24]

Small question, could you also add this as update to your US units? I would love to have this all in one addon. :D

Sort of planned that way. IndUs needs an update just to clear some bugs. Whenever that happens is unsure, but the Javelin could get some testing that way :)

not to hit your thread with a stopper just bringing it up the actual javelin has crosshairs like so http://gorillavid.in/89c0yrqwhj1y watch from 2:40 to 11:19 this is a tv show called future weapons and it includes a live test firing of the weapon as well as crosshair shot i advise you watch the entire video from the two designated time points its a very good walkthough of the system not many shots of the CLU though :P

crosshair shot at 3:13 through 3:40

thanks for all the work on the mod cant wait for finish ;)

You're helping greatly :)

Here's the very basic procedure I could make out of it.

Pictures are from the video, not ArmA.

First, here's the normal view and the narrow (zoomed) view:

Here's the sight when tracking is initiated:

Here's when the sight have something tracked, and then locked on:

After firing it seems to go back to normal or narrow view.

Edited November 24, 2013 by AlexVestin

[merc591 10]

Sort of planned that way. IndUs needs an update just to clear some bugs. Whenever that happens is unsure, but the Javelin could get some testing that way :)

You're helping greatly :)

Here's the very basic procedure I could make out of it.

Pictures are from the video, not ArmA.

First, here's the normal view and the narrow (zoomed) view:

http://imageshack.us/a/img36/4469/ekhk.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img197/9773/9pcc.jpg

Here's the sight when tracking is initiated:

http://imageshack.us/a/img849/2600/2zkr.jpg

Here's when the sight have something tracked, and then locked on:

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/4490/objf.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img197/5575/suo0.jpg

After firing it seems to go back to normal or narrow view.

i think it would be better to do something like the second picture for the firing lens or just take your original design and cut like a 2 inch square out of the mid of it and use the regular arma locking system for the mid

[AlexVestin 24]

I know what you mean. I did try a very fast mockup like that. If it could be made, it would be one step closer to the real thing I believe.

Normal view:

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/8523/qcyy.jpg

After going into tracking view:

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/603/iz3o.jpg

[merc591 10]

I know what you mean. I did try a very fast mockup like that. If it could be made, it would be one step closer to the real thing I believe.

Normal view:

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/8523/qcyy.jpg

After going into tracking view:

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/603/iz3o.jpg

for the sake of playability it might be a good idea to leave tracking mode with the entire screen

[PTV-Jobo 820]

for the sake of playability it might be a good idea to leave tracking mode with the entire screen

Either ACE or Mando's Javelin system (God, how I miss Mando's Jav setup... <sigh>) had similar tracking view as I believe it's proper. I had zero difficulties tracking and locking, so I highly doubt this will have a negative impact on "playability" unless someone is playing @ 800x600. I prefer a properly made Javelin system than a nerfed basic version any day. Sorry, but I can't agree.

[merc591 10]

Either ACE or Mando's Javelin system (God, how I miss Mando's Jav setup... <sigh>) had similar tracking view as I believe it's proper. I had zero difficulties tracking and locking, so I highly doubt this will have a negative impact on "playability" unless someone is playing @ 800x600. I prefer a properly made Javelin system than a nerfed basic version any day. Sorry, but I can't agree.

just saying it might be harder for some players to track vehicles when the window gets small

EDIT if it is at all possible it might be better to leave the outside tracking window when it narrows like 30 to 40 % transparent as i believe thats how the real system works the screen closes to help the gunner focus on the target while still maintaining that bit of side transparency to allow for watching other vehicles out of peripherals of the lock

---------- Post added at 22:58 ---------- Previous post was at 22:29 ----------

i hope we can find someone to do the scripts and what not for the top down attack mode thats what made the jav so great

Edited November 24, 2013 by merc591

[PTV-Jobo 820]

just saying it might be harder for some players to track vehicles when the window gets small

EDIT if it is at all possible it might be better to leave the outside tracking window when it narrows like 30 to 40 % transparent as i believe thats how the real system works the screen closes to help the gunner focus on the target while still maintaining that bit of side transparency to allow for watching other vehicles out of peripherals of the lock

---------- Post added at 22:58 ---------- Previous post was at 22:29 ----------

i hope we can find someone to do the scripts and what not for the top down attack mode thats what made the jav so great

Oh yeah! That might be a good solution actually for tracking! :) Yeah here's hoping. I also liked how with Mando's scripts from ArmA 1 and 2 was the ability to force lock on things such as bunkers or on the ground near a enemy vehicle that was engine off and empty.

[merc591 10]

Oh yeah! That might be a good solution actually for tracking! :) Yeah here's hoping. I also liked how with Mando's scripts from ArmA 1 and 2 was the ability to force lock on things such as bunkers or on the ground near a enemy vehicle that was engine off and empty.

is this thread broken or is the modder guy just working heavily atm ??

[warlord554 2065]

is this thread broken or is the modder guy just working heavily atm ??

AV is always working heavily ;) I'm sure when he has time we will get some updates

[AlexVestin 24]

is this thread broken or is the modder guy just working heavily atm ??

Doing stuff whenever there's time.

Thanks to the people in this thread I've got the texture for the sticker re-constructed and readable.

(not that readable in this low-res preview, but it's there to read when you're bored in-game)

Edited November 26, 2013 by AlexVestin

[bravo93 37]

Looking fantastic, cant wait for this!

[Hartmann_E 10]

Great !

Can't wait to see the Javelin back, thx.

[FUNKYCHUNKY2017 10]

same hear, cannot wait