F-16 final version

[Scorpio 0]

Well after all those stupid versions of the F-16 coming out, i think its about time i ask the community what they want.

I'm in the process of making the F-16 Final version, and i would like to know what you people would like on it.

I've added and fixed the following atm:

- New gears

- Tinted Cockpit

- No more mavericks on the wingtips

- Sidewinders on the wingtips

- Fuel Tanks

- The whole model is larger

and a whole lot of other bits and bobs. It works nicely in all versions now. I was thinking of adding a new sound aswell.

Anything you people want to see just post it here...

[Scorpio 0]

BTW, this is my last plane addon im doing (along with the MiG-29) so feel free to post things you want on the mig aswell, ive got a new model and this time its under 2000 polys

[ALDEGA 0]

MiG29 needs following ordenance:

CAC: Vympel R60/AA-8"Aphid", R73/AA-11"Archer"

BVR: Vympel R-27R, -T,-RE,-TE,-EM, -AE/AA-10"Alamo A,B,C,D" and Vympel R-77(RVV-AE)/AA-12"Adder"

Guns: internal: Gryazev-Shipunov Gsh-301(30 mm), firing rate: 1500 rounds per minute(100 rounds carried)

AG: Kh-29T(TV),Kh-29L(laser)/AS-14"Kedge",KAB-500,FAB-250, OFAB-250, PB-250,FAB-500, RPK-500, ZAB-500+S-8, S13, S25

ASM: Kh-31A/AS-12"Kegler"

Antiradar: Kh-31P/AS-12"Kegler"

External fuelload: 3 droptanks

Think you could do that?

[Speeeedy 0]

Ummm for both the F-16 and Mig-29 i would love to see releastic airbrakes...(so at the right places). New sounds would be GREAT....and perhaps a weapon loadout for the F-16 MK-82 Snake eye bombs if the Flashpoint engine supports that

[dkraver 1]

For the F-16 armaments and versions look here

Since its a multirole fighter i would surgest something like this

Air Defence

9  AIM-9 Sidewinder

8  AGM-65 Maverick

7  AIM-120 Amraam

7A AIM-120 Amraam

6  Fuel Tank

5R AIM-9 Sidewinder

5  Empty

5L AIM-9 Sidewinder

4  Fuel Tank

3A AIM-120 Amraam

3  AIM-120 Amraam

2  AGM-65 Maverick

1  AIM-9 Sidewinder

Anti Radar

9  AIM-9 Sidewinder

8  AGM-65 Maverick

7  AGM-88 Harm

7a AGM-88 Harm

6 Fuel Tank

5R AGM-88 Harm

5  Lantirn

5L AGM-88 Harm

4  Fuel Tank

3A AGM-88 Harm

3  AGM-88 Harm

2 AGM-65 Maverick

1  AIM-9 Sidewinder

Make the AGM-88 so that it just do enough damage to destroy the shilka and the vulcan, so its not that effective against armor.

A/G Free Fall Bombs

9  Aim-9 Sidewinder

8  MK-82 Bomb

7  MK-82 Bomb

7A MK-82 Bomb

6  Fuel Tank

5R CBU-87 Bomb

5  CBU-87 Bomb

5L CBU-87 Bomb

4  Fuel Tank

3A MK-82 Bomb

3  MK-82 Bomb

2  MK-82 Bomb

1  AIM-9 Sidewinder

A/G LG Bombs

9  AIM-9 Sidewinder

8  GBU-10 Paveway II

7  GBU-10 Paveway II

7A GBU-10 Paveway II

6  Fuel Tank

5R AGM-65 Maverick

5 Lantirn

5L AGM-65 Maverick

4  Fuel Tank

3A GBU-10 Paveway II

3  GBU-10 Paveway II

2  GBU-10 Paveway II

1  AIM-2 Sidewinder

A/G Rockets & Bombs

9  AIM-9 Sidewinder

8  AGM-65 Maverick

7  AGM-65 Maverick

7A AGM-65 Maverick

6  Fuel Tank

5R MK-84 Bomb

5  MK-84 Bomb

5L MK-84 Bomb

4  Fuel Tank

3A  AGM-65 Maverick

3  AGM-65 Maverick

2  AGM-65 Maverick

1  AIM-9 Sidewinder

Lantirn and Fuel tank just for looks, though would look nice if the fuel tanks could be dropped, maybe with a low damage explosion when it hit the ground.

[shernt250 0]

FIX THE LIGHTS! there should be a green light a red light flashing on the ends of the wings! And the nosegear landing light is shining on the bottom of the plane under the cockpit, instead of the area in front of the aircraft. This is for both the f16 and the mig29 and make the handling alot more stable to fly i always crash when i=ever i fly them with my joystick.New Jet sounds! Anyway thx for reading and for making a new f16 and mig. Oh and also re-texture the mig with the light grey to dark grey cammo scheme, like the german mig and add the two red stars on the wings and maybye the rudder. Thx.

[The Jub-Jub Bird 1]

dkraver: Unfortunately the OFP engine does not support more than one type of missile animation per vehicle. Meaning for example you can't have both Mavericks and Smart Bombs. You can however have missiles and rocket pods, because they work in much the same way as a guns within the engine. This is why all the addons out there have just Sidewinders or Mavericks or Smart Bombs and not a realistic combination of many different armourments. It is a shame because a realistic load out is imposible.

shernt250: The lighting on the aircraft I seem to remember is generic and can not be altered.

Jubs

[dkraver 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ Aug. 11 2002,18:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">dkraver: Unfortunately the OFP engine does not support more than one type of missile animation per vehicle. Meaning for example you can't have both Mavericks and Smart Bombs. You can however have missiles and rocket pods, because they work in much the same way as a guns within the engine. This is why all the addons out there have just Sidewinders or Mavericks or Smart Bombs and not a realistic combination of many different armourments. It is a shame because a realistic load out is imposible.<span id='postcolor'>

Is this something that cant be changed with a patch or is it something that will take a whole new game engine??

Seems theres some importent things on realism that BIS cut corners with, at least i think.

-One shot, non reloadable weapons

-Multiple Weapon animations

-Multiple gunners on vehicles

-Non moveable attached weapons

-Range of hand guns

Hmmm maybe the last part should be in a post itself

[red oct 2]

when in 3rd person, view in the f16, ive noticed the pilot sits too low you can only see his head and barely his shoulders, would ya be able to raise the seat in the cockpit higher so you can see more of him,

[Speeeedy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dkraver @ Aug. 11 2002,20:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ Aug. 11 2002,18:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">dkraver: Unfortunately the OFP engine does not support more than one type of missile animation per vehicle. Meaning for example you can't have both Mavericks and Smart Bombs. You can however have missiles and rocket pods, because they work in much the same way as a guns within the engine. This is why all the addons out there have just Sidewinders or Mavericks or Smart Bombs and not a realistic combination of many different armourments. It is a shame because a realistic load out is imposible.<span id='postcolor'>

Is this something that cant be changed with a patch or is it something that will take a whole new game engine??

Seems theres some importent things on realism that BIS cut corners with, at least i think.

-One shot, non reloadable weapons

-Multiple Weapon animations

-Multiple gunners on vehicles

-Non moveable attached weapons

-Range of hand guns

Hmmm maybe the last part should be in a post itself  <span id='postcolor'>

Well you wouldnt need to rewrite the whole engine but it would take LOTS AND LOTS OF coding and time......to much for a patch

[.40S&W 0]

Strike Commander paint scheme

[Yoshiro 0]

New sounds for the gun on the F-16 would be great, and the Mig29, just use that new model and I think most things should be good. And keep up the good work. What are you going to work on now, after these 2 are done?

[Scorpio 0]

Thanks for th feedback everybody. Unfortunately, i dont have the time to make a new weapon loadout. And the textures on the mig - you people saw green and blue, It should of been green and grey - i fixed that too. Here is a list of new features for the mig:

- Completely new model (this time low poly )

- Improved Textures

- Red Engine changed to black (more realistic)

- Tinted cockpit changed to normal texture

- Changed name of Rockets

- Changed name of Missiles

- Cannon made more explosive and new sound

- 2 versions:

1) With Fuel Tanks, Tri-Grouped Missiles, and Rocket Pods.

2) A more realistic weapon loadout - 6 AA-10 Alammo missiles.

[Speeeedy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scorpio @ Aug. 11 2002,22:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks for th feedback everybody. Unfortunately, i dont have the time to make a new weapon loadout. And the textures on the mig - you people saw green and blue, It should of been green and grey - i fixed that too. Here is a list of new features for the mig:

- Completely new model (this time low poly )

- Improved Textures

- Red Engine changed to black (more realistic)

- Tinted cockpit changed to normal texture

- Changed name of Rockets

- Changed name of Missiles

- Cannon made more explosive and new sound

- 2 versions:

1) With Fuel Tanks, Tri-Grouped Missiles, and Rocket Pods.

2) A more realistic weapon loadout - 6 AA-10 Alammo missiles.<span id='postcolor'>

what about the airbrake i know its a little thing but the airbrake on an Mig-29 looks really sweet

[Scorpio 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshiro @ Aug. 11 2002,22:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">New sounds for the gun on the F-16 would be great, and the Mig29, just use that new model and I think most things should be good.  And keep up the good work.  What are you going to work on now, after these 2 are done?<span id='postcolor'>

I'm going to work on choppers now. I got a CH-53 Superstallion, SH-3 Seaking, a V-22 Osprey (open project with others) and a KA-29 Helix.

I cant do anything right now, since my O2 needs new unlock codes ( i cant breathe )

[Speeeedy 0]

CH-53 Superstallion AAAHHHHH AARGHHHH WWHHAAAAAA WANT IT NOW

[RAF_Maverick 0]

Bring on the Sea-king - RAF version maybe?

[dkraver 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scorpio @ Aug. 11 2002,22:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks for th feedback everybody. Unfortunately, i dont have the time to make a new weapon loadout..<span id='postcolor'>

Hmmmm that was the first and most asked thing on all version of the F-16. It really needs it

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scorpio @ Aug. 11 2002,22:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks for th feedback everybody. Unfortunately, i dont have the time to make a new weapon loadout. And the textures on the mig - you people saw green and blue, It should of been green and grey - i fixed that too. Here is a list of new features for the mig:

- Completely new model (this time low poly )

- Improved Textures

- Red Engine changed to black (more realistic)

- Tinted cockpit changed to normal texture

- Changed name of Rockets

- Changed name of Missiles

- Cannon made more explosive and new sound

- 2 versions:

1) With Fuel Tanks, Tri-Grouped Missiles, and Rocket Pods.

2) A more realistic weapon loadout - 6 AA-10 Alammo missiles.<span id='postcolor'>

That sounds great Scorpio. Those are about the main things that I would have asked to be fixed on the Mig-29. Oh...also make sure it has the little laser designator bulge in front of the cockpit. It doesn't have to work (unless you could figure out how to make it work) but it just adds to the realism. The more details and cool little things you can add to the model, the better. A ground attack version would be nice also. But the main thing is that it flys well, and has a decent AA loadout. Also don't put a tinted cockpit on the Mig-29. I've never seen that on a Mig-29, although I think I have on the F-16. Anyways...on the M16 those fixes you mention sound good. I hope to see a version with bombs as well. Keep up the great work!

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[red oct 2]

and what about the problem w/ the f16 ware the pilot sits so low in the cockpit he can't even see over the instrument panel when looking in the outside view?

[Yoshiro 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Scorpio @ Aug. 11 2002,01:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshiro @ Aug. 11 2002,22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">New sounds for the gun on the F-16 would be great, and the Mig29, just use that new model and I think most things should be good.  And keep up the good work.  What are you going to work on now, after these 2 are done?<span id='postcolor'>

I'm going to work on choppers now. I got a CH-53 Superstallion, SH-3 Seaking, a V-22 Osprey (open project with others) and a KA-29 Helix.

I cant do anything right now, since my O2 needs new unlock codes ( i cant breathe <!--emo& )<span id='postcolor'>

I feel for you hehe.  Can't wait to see some of your new helicopter work.

sorry, double quoted and fixed it

[r71 0]

the dot for the gun sight should be in the HUD. And center it because it seems to be a bit to the right.