The Namer (Panther) and the CV9035 (Dont remember the name)

[Yairweinberg 1]

So this might have been posted before or done before but I would like to share with you the results of some testing I conducted on the Namer and the 2T Stalker in game.

So I wanted to see whats the diffrence between them and heres what I've done:

For the 1st test I've drove both apcs over a line of 8 Anti infantry mines at the speed of 50km/h in both cases not even a scratch, which was to be expected I doubled the amount and still nothing.

For the 2nd test I've tested Max speed and acceleration... Unsurprisingly the Namer or Panther was out preformed by the 2T with the 2T ending up feeling like a race car while the Namer felt sluggish, The 2T reached it top speed quickly while the Namer reached its top speed slowly and even when it did it was dissapointing compared to the 2T. (Note: This test was conducted on roads and not rough terrain. results may differ on diffrent terrains.)

For my 3rd test I've tested Protection againest Infantry AT weapons As the PCML (Used to be NLAW) and the Titan during which I learned that the Titan you get from the NATO launchers can only fire AA while the Compact version you get from the OPFOR Launchers cant launch AA but can launch AP and AT so Im not sure how this is going to work... First I fired the PCML at the Namers Front, Back and Side All times it took 3 missiles to destroy the Namer (Note: After the 2nd Missile hit the Namer was messed up but in most cases still drivable with red almost across the board.) Next I did the same with the RPG which had the same results 3 Rockets to destroy it, though during this I learned that when the RPG hits the target it it detonates and creats a big explosion while the PCML seems to creats some smoke but in small amounts with no explosion...

Now I took the PCML and fired it on the 2Ts Front, Back and Side and I found it took 2 missiles to destroy the 2T which is 1 missile less then what it took to destroy the Namer. (Note: The 2T was messed up after the first missile hit it but it was in most cases drivable.) Same results with the RPG.

Next up was the Titan Compact with AT Missiles

This time I tested it out on the 2T first I locked on, fired and when the Missile hit the 2T it immediately destroyed it. I tried it again with the same results.

Next I tried it on the Namer I locked on, fired and the missile hit the namer but did not destroy it... Something interesting though it did kill the engine and if I remember correctly both the left track and the right one... So I reloaded and fired again and that was the end of the Namer... But the crew and personal inside it would have had enough time between the first missile to the second on to get out and run to cover.

For my 4th test I tested the ability of each vehicle to to destroy each other and itself.

So I've started out with the 2Ts ability to destroy the Namer. First I was amazed by the variety of weapons the Unmanned turret (which I think is a UT-30 variant maybe I cant identify it) compared to the 2 weapons the Namer unamnned "turret" offered.Any ways I found that it took both turret mounted Titan missiles to destroy the Namer and if you already used them on something else the 2T is not capable of destroying the Namer on its own no matter what weapon I used or how much ammo I unloaded on the Namer it stood strong even when I used all the ammo of all the weapons.. It seems the Titan is the only way you're gonna defeat the Namer. Now when I tested what the 2T can do againest another 2T it took 1 Titan missile or almost half of the Main gun ammo to destroy it. Now when I tested the Namers capability to destroy the 2T I was dissapointed that the weapons it offered were either A machine gun or what I presume is a grenade launcher. The Namer was able to destroy the 2T with half of its grenade launchers ammo.

For my 5th test I tested the APCs resistance againest Helicopters weapons. Both failed miserably with no need for more then 1 ATGM to destroy each one. Againest the Gun the apcs held their ground and againest the unguided missiles they held for a while before being destroyed... I do believe the Namer held for longer but I cant confirm it. This test was conducted with both the Mi-48 and the Comanche againest both vehicles.

For my 6th and final test for this testing round I wanted to see which vehicle is more resistance to the AT mines...

First the Namer at 30km/h after 3 mines the engine was destroyed and both tracks and the vehicle was declared disabled.

At 40km/h 3 mines with the same results

At max speed 3 and some times 4 mines and the vehicle was disabled 1 more mine then before.

The 2T at 30km/h 3 mines the engine and both tracks were destroyed and the vehicle was declared disabled

At 40km/h same results

At max speed 5 and even 6 mines took to disable the vehicle 2-3 more then before.

(Note: both vehicles suffered from minor engine damage after the first mine.)

(Note: All tests were conducted in the air port of stratis)

Conclusions:

Test 1 - Both APCs are good to clear out anti infantry mine fields as they dont take any damage from those mines.

Test 2 - The 2T is much faster then the Namer and as a results feels more manuverable aswell.

Test 3 - The Namer out preformed the 2T and kepts the crew and personal safer from Infantry AT weapons.

Test 4 - The Namer was able to to shrug off most of the 2Ts weapons except the Titan missiles... Without them the 2T is not capable of destroying the Namer on its own.

Test 5 - Both APCs were destroyed quite easily by both Attack Helicopters and offered protection only againes unguided rockets and the guns.

Test 6 - Although the Namer offered more protection then the 2T againest AT weapons it was disabled before the 2T againest mines although not destroyed its engine and tracks were destroyed after only 3 mines even at top speed while the 2T managed to handle the mines when it drove full speed managing againest 4 mines before being disabled by the 5th.

Im gonna do some more test and update this when Im done read enjoy dont enjoy its up to you and if you have something to add all the better.

Edited July 19, 2013 by Yairweinberg
Messing up real world names

[dm 9]

I guess by "CV90" you mean [ficticious] BTR-K?

[Smurf 12]

Better get those names straight because I'm already confused :eek:

[Yairweinberg 1]

I guess by "CV90" you mean [ficticious] BTR-K?

I guess

Im using the names of the real life vehicles not the in game names since they confuse me and I dont remember them.

If that confuses you smurf then look at it as

Namer = BLUFOR APC

CV90 = OPFOR APC

Does it make more sense like this?

Edited July 19, 2013 by Yairweinberg

[roberthammer 582]

that BTR-K is actually a 2T stalker

Edited July 19, 2013 by RobertHammer

[f27sharps 1]

I think it's not a CV90 but more a Belarussian 2T Stalker, If you observe the chassis of the CV90 you can see 8 gallets of roullement for caterpillars, or the BTR-K Kamysh only 6 gallets like the 2T Stalker had.

2T Stalker

http://forum.valka.cz/files/idex_2003_2t_stalker_001.jpg

BTR-K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=firg1lKFTZA

[metalcraze 290]

PCML and RPG are exactly the same weapon with a different 3d model (see the config in the editor) that's why it takes the same amount of damage from them.

Balancing.

[Yairweinberg 1]

that BTR-K is actually a 2T stalker

I think it's not a CV90 but more a Belarussian 2T Stalker, If you observe the chassis of the CV90 you can see 8 gallets of roullement for caterpillars, or the BTR-K Kamysh only 6 gallets like the 2T Stalker had.

2T Stalker

http://forum.valka.cz/files/idex_2003_2t_stalker_001.jpg

BTR-K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=firg1lKFTZA

You're right I was not aware of the 2T Stalker so I just assumed they aimed for the CV90. And Yes Im aware of that metalcraze but just to be sure I did it anyways.

I'll edit the name to the 2T thanks for spotting it.

[trent 14]

Thank you for this.

[da12thMonkey 1943]

The BTR-K Kamysh seems to be kind of a mash-up between the 2T Stalker and

. I don't think the real Stalker has much in the way of troop carrying capacity.

[roberthammer 582]

The BTR-K Kamysh seems to be kind of a mash-up between the 2T Stalker and

. I don't think the real Stalker has much in the way of troop carrying capacity.

Yes, you are right

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To the OP

I think the Namer got better armour but it is heavy and thats the reason why to goes much slower than 2T Stalker , in other hand the 2T is faster because it doesnt have that much armour as Namer

60 tons vs 27 tons - it does look balanced , 2T stalker got (RCWS-30) AT weapons while the Namer is more like against infantry

only i wish the BIS could do some better system of armour , not just old style HP

Edited July 19, 2013 by RobertHammer

[Yairweinberg 1]

Yes, you are right

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To the OP

I think the Namer got better armour but it is heavy and thats the reason why to goes much slower than 2T Stalker , in other hand the 2T is faster because it doesnt have that much armour as Namer

60 tons vs 27 tons - it does look balanced , 2T stalker got (RCWS-30) AT weapons while the Namer is more like against infantry

only i wish the BIS could do some better system of armour , not just old style HP

I wish so too but maybe they'll do something new with the tanks since armor on them means even more.

[f27sharps 1]

The BTR-K Kamysh seems to be kind of a mash-up between the 2T Stalker and

. I don't think the real Stalker has much in the way of troop carrying capacity.

Right, Stalker is a recon vehicle with 3+2+(1) crew member, it's not a APC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2T_Stalker