Commonwealth games

[Col. Kurtz 0]

Does that mean Joseph Stalin was great? He knew when to stop in WW2. If he didnt, he could have slugged it out with the allies. Stalin was as bad, if not worse than Hitler. He sure as hell killed more people(well, maybe not by his own hand, remember Hitler was a soldier in WW2). Thatcher joined her American brother Reagan by pulling the plug on help for the poor. I have seen to much of it, the rich pissing on the poor. IT MUST STOP! EQUAL RIGHTS REGARDLESS OF MONEY! Back to sport(which i despise most of the time unless its football/soccer whatever you want to call it(kicking a ball and not touching it with your hands unless been a goalie). My rule on sports is-Most of the time its only exiting if your playing it. Now Im goign to do my daily jog around the back yard for five minutes. Its quarter to 1 in the morning, so there should be a nice cool breeze(warm if you live in England, and freezing if you are an Australian, Australians in the is region dont know anything about cold! They are used to 30dg+days! Way too hot.....) The Challengers are been loading, so we should be ready to ship soon. And about the Flklands, why not give it to the Argentinians? Its soooo close to them. Lets do something usefull and snot those bloody old fruits that have formed their crackpot goverment of Sealand and disowned their rightful Queen!

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sealand and disowned their rightful Queen!

<span id='postcolor'> It is a British platform within British territorial waters!

What is the Aussie and NZ Main Battle Tank?

Thatcher can't be compared with Stalin. She revolutionised the British economy. We are one of the strongest in the world (4th) now, economy wise that is.

[IsthatyouJohnWayne 0]

'how about an explanation to us who don't know what it is?'

The Commonwealth Games

'The Friendly games'

5000 athletes from 72 nations take part in a large number of sports events (Track and Field ,boxing ,gymnastics, hockey, swimming etc etc the usual sorta sports -especially if invented in the UK - )

.And then Australia wins.

its supposed to be a bit more friendly and maybe 'fair play' orientated than ..say the Olymics

(where those dastardly Americans will insist on trying to win all the time)

the nations are formerly of the British empire ( members of the commonwealth )

but not the USA because throwing tea into the sea just wont do.

And i dont mind Australia winning a lot at sports because its all you people have

( )

Anyway the Mancunians (? ) (people of Manchester) seem to have put a lot of effort into it and ive enjoyed it so far

(especially the boxing)

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but not the USA because throwing tea into the sea just wont do. <span id='postcolor'> They knew how to get us to fight!

[Col. Kurtz 0]

The Australian Army uses the Leopard 1 tank and I think I read something that they do not plan to get anymore when they bite the bullet. See, the thing with Australia, is that most of there defence budget has gone to the navy*caugh**Colins class subs**caugh* and the airforce. It took Sept. 11/12 for the or part of the world before they got any notice but navy and RAAF still getting more money. The Australain Defence budget under the Howard goverment has skyrocketed into the billions, and they want more. Now this is were I put my imaginary tail between my legs. NZ MBT's? Hehehe. About threee year ago we blew our tank force up on purpose. Someone decided we didnt need them. Oh well, they were only British Scorpian Light Tanks. but look what happened. Another idiot in the NZ Defence Ministry decided to go and buy 120 LAVV-3's or 7's, one of those. Thing is, what the hell are we going to use them for? I would like to see that. The LAVV-3 with its awsome fire power provided by a 27mm*caugh**caugh* main gun stands up against a whole T-80 Battalion! Get the body bags out boys. Now its time for you to cry Paratrooper, Helen is back! And probably in an alliance with the Greens All you right wingsers go back into your pits! Dont worry old fruit, she'll only push for a rebublic if Canada does it first. She dosnt want to be a lone gun. I think having Mother England is kind of good. In a time of war if we were invaded, you might come and save us with the *tehehehhehe* Royal Navy packed(at least you still have one) with the Royal Marines and maybe the Red Devils(do they still cry out Whoa Mohumeed as their war cry?) and kick arse/ We might all so have to put up with the Americans dropping bombs on us. There probably going to find that all those JDAM and asll the other guided muniotions arn't! It was all for the Cameras. All that cool footage were mock ups! Front page news in the Australian Herald sun, some ausi athlete won gold.

[Antichrist 0]

The only MBT we've got here is standing outside a shop in Ngaruawahai and it hasn't moved for 30 years

[Col. Kurtz 0]

Theres a guy down in Ross in the S.I. who got a Centurion from his wife for his birthday. he used it to demolish an old pub.

[Paratrooper 0]

New Zealand isn't poor is it? Where does your money go?! You Aussies and Kiwis are actually in quite a dangerous place out there on your own you need armed forces surely!

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dont worry old fruit<span id='postcolor'> You might want to work on the lingo as well...

From what I gather Canada wont give up the Queen as they are paranoid about turning into Yanks, which I don't blame them for! Anyway what is there to gain from becoming a drab little republic?

[Col. Kurtz 0]

Come on old man, everybody knows all British are Aristocrats and speak the lingo with the funny accent(sarcasm). I would rather hear a British accent than a Texas drawl. Well, NZ might be part of the Empire a little longer then. As for the armed forces, the spending goes else were. We are a nation of 4million, not huge so no huge defence budgets. Since the last election back in 1999 there have been big reforms and the changes the Labour Govermeant promised are costly, in the billions. We dont have the cash to be buying Challenger 2's and zooming around in Tornadoes as much as Im sure the military would love too. But Paratrooper, please tell me you drink tea? And now for the question, with a name like Paratrooper and a British flag for an emblen, this should be a piece of cake. Do the 1st Airborne Regiments(the red devils) still have the WW2 era war cry of 'Woa Mohumeed'? Just curious to see if it has survived. Their service at Arnham was amazing. I knew a Kiwi whos father faught at Arnhem. I read all about it in 'A bridge too far' greeat book, but it sounds like the movie was not. Col. John Frost, now theres a real war hero.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ July 28 2002,17:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Come on old man, everybody knows all British are Aristocrats and speak the lingo with the funny accent(sarcasm). I would rather hear a British accent than a Texas drawl. Well, NZ might be part of the Empire a little longer then. As for the armed forces, the spending goes else were. We are a nation of 4million, not huge so no huge defence budgets. Since the last election back in 1999 there have been big reforms and the changes the Labour Govermeant promised are costly, in the billions. We dont have the cash to be buying Challenger 2's and zooming around in Tornadoes as much as Im sure the military would love too. But Paratrooper, please tell me you drink tea?   And now for the question, with a name like Paratrooper and a British flag for an emblen, this should be a piece of cake. Do the 1st Airborne Regiments(the red devils) still have the WW2 era war cry of 'Woa Mohumeed'? Just curious to see if it has survived. Their service at Arnham was amazing. I knew a Kiwi whos father faught at Arnhem. I read all about it in 'A bridge too far' greeat book, but it sounds like the movie was not. Col. John Frost, now theres a real war hero.<span id='postcolor'>

As far as I know their motto is untrique paratus (ready for anything) I dont think thay have a way cry (a little un-cool for us Brits).

About the accent, I do speak with an easily ridiculed accent but thats how the family speak, and some of my freinds.

Of course I drink Tea, I'd go into shock without it.

A bridge too far is a great film! My grandfather was a Royal Engineer officer and fixed all those bridges (with a litte help from the men) and helped build the artificial docks.

I think the Govenor General aught to sack Helen Clark, and we should send you some of our old stuff, we'll be finished with the tornados soon? Interested?

[Badgerboy 0]

Para, we'll be keeping the GR4's untill FOAS comes into effect, and that could take a long time...... But some of the FOAS concepts are really revolutionary, and far ahead of anything anyone else is doing.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ July 28 2002,22:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Para, we'll be keeping the GR4's untill FOAS comes into effect, and that could take a long time...... But some of the FOAS concepts are really revolutionary, and far ahead of anything anyone else is doing.<span id='postcolor'>

FOAS? Do you mean Eurofighter?

[Badgerboy 0]

No, FOAS is the Future Offensive Air System.

Lots of plans are up in the air for it, from UCAVs to updated JSF's. I met a guy from DERA, who gave a brief talk about it. I met him in the bar later, and we discussed some of the plans he had been involved in. (He had been moved off the project since). Sadly a majority of the really good ones are out of our budget, but the groundworks there.

FOAS is supposed to be able to penetrate enemy airspace, conduct its own SEAD defence, engage enemy fighters, and attack multiple targets with precision weapons. In short its the whole kit and kaboodle.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ July 29 2002,00:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No, FOAS is the Future Offensive Air System.

Lots of plans are up in the air for it, from UCAVs to updated JSF's. I met a guy from DERA, who gave a brief talk about it. I met him in the bar later, and we discussed some of the plans he had been involved in. (He had been moved off the project since). Sadly a majority of the really good ones are out of our budget, but the groundworks there.

FOAS is supposed to be able to penetrate enemy airspace, conduct its own SEAD defence, engage enemy fighters, and attack multiple targets with precision weapons. In short its the whole kit and kaboodle.<span id='postcolor'>

I'm about to be Royal Artillery officer cadet, so all this future air business isn't my speciality! but I'm glad QinietiQ is up to something other than aquiring spy satalites!

I think unmanned air warfare is a little while off yet. Eurofighter and the JSF will be the immediate Tornado replacement.

[Badgerboy 0]

Well I'm a RAF Officer Cadet! Huzzah!

Yes, its far off, but its about time we started planning for the future. Besides, we only get the JSF if we get the carriers. We poor bastards have to fly Gr7's off Invincible etc with no AA radar now that we ditched the FA2. Bloody Navy!

Anyway, aren't the Army getting a shiny new Artillery piece soon? I've seen a computer simulation of a lightweight air transportable one. Looks pretty good. But then the ones we have now are quite good aren't they?

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ July 29 2002,00:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I'm a RAF Officer Cadet! Huzzah!

Yes, its far off, but its about time we started planning for the future. Besides, we only get the JSF if we get the carriers. We poor bastards have to fly Gr7's off Invincible etc with no AA radar now that we ditched the FA2. Bloody Navy!

Anyway, aren't the Army getting a shiny new Artillery piece soon? I've seen a computer simulation of a lightweight air transportable one. Looks pretty good. But then the ones we have now are quite good aren't they?<span id='postcolor'>

We are going to have two new "future carriers" which should be great!

The AS90 is a superb weapon anything to replace it will be far off at the moment.

I just hope my University Gun troop has one! (which it wont ).

[Paratrooper 0]

Anyway, we lend Italy Tornados; I bet we could spare some for New Zealand.

[Col. Kurtz 0]

1. Only a Cadet? Shouldnt you be a Brigader or something? 2. In the arty? Blimey, youll have to change your name 3. Too late for the Tornadoes, we dont have any one to fly them any more, only a few huey pilots and some Hercules. Hell, the idea of Joining the British Armed Forces just gets more and more apatising...... My dad has always critisesed the fact he think I talk like an Englishman, he blames that on watching too much Cronicals of Narnia(I have read all the books too of course) He grand dad was in the English army(from Scotland). his entire battalion was basicly wiped out on D-Day. My Nana says he wasnt there, but I detect lying. She keeps on telling diffrent stories and he has 6 documenteries on D-Day in his retirement home and was seriously screwed by the war. And he got that from gaurding German POWs? Well, I spose he house was destroyed by Luftwaffe bombing but.......

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">English army(from Scotland<span id='postcolor'> BRITISH ARMY, I know at least one Scotsman that would go crazy to hear that!

I bet NZ could be fixed up with fighters, they could even train in Britain. Some real crap houses operate good fighters, I'm sure NZ could!

If I was a Brigadeer General I'd be out having fun! Anyway you never know, maybe one-day! Of course the best job ever would be the Cheif of Defense Staff-Commanding the entire armed forces on behalf of Her Majesty.

[Col. Kurtz 0]

Been the Commander in Chief of Defence would be a bloody desk job! Your not a desk warroir are you? As for training NZ flyers in Britain....... I think the current NZ Gov wants as little to do with the motherland as it can. Remember what happened when the Queen went there last? Go to Australia, and she gets all the smarmy Right Wing Nazi wanna be Liberal politicians(the ruling party in Aus) actualing touching her majesty! What did you choose Arty for? Dont you want to be close and personal in your killing? prefer to do it at a safe range of about 20km? Go out there and bayonet something! Dont go deaf around the big guns! If you want big guns, do something useful like join the Tank Corps...... Tanks...... I like........ Challenger 2's...........

[loopy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ July 29 2002,01:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And now for the question, Do the 1st Airborne Regiments(the red devils) still have the WW2 era war cry of 'Woa Mohumeed'?<span id='postcolor'>

"Whoa Mohammed" Was started by the 2nd Battalion(2 Para)While in North Africa.

[Paratrooper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Col. Kurtz @ July 30 2002,00:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Been the Commander in Chief of Defence would be a bloody desk job! Your not a desk warroir are you? As for training NZ flyers in Britain....... I think the current NZ Gov wants as little to do with the motherland as it can. Remember what happened when the Queen went there last? Go to Australia, and she gets all the smarmy Right Wing Nazi wanna be Liberal politicians(the ruling party in Aus) actualing touching her majesty! What did you choose Arty for? Dont you want to be close and personal in your killing? prefer to do it at a safe range of about 20km? Go out there and bayonet something! Dont go deaf around the big guns! If you want big guns, do something useful like join the Tank Corps...... Tanks...... I like........ Challenger 2's...........<span id='postcolor'>

There is plenty up close work in the RA! Northern Ireland, Peace keeping in the former Yugoslavia, recce work, close defense of the guns, one Royal Horse Artillery officer is Mayor of Pristina!

As for being CDS, that would be at the and of the career, if I was very fortunate. Wielding the might of all Her Majesty's forces would be good. Although the decisions come straight from Number 10.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wing Nazi wanna be Liberal politicians<span id='postcolor'> Are you talking about the Conservative party? what are you going on about!?

[loopy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (second_draw @ July 26 2002,21:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now the ceremony has been opened and all (and we know the winner of course),<span id='postcolor'>

Well it looks likew the aussies completly nailed these games

Aussie Aussie Aussie oi oi oi !!!!

[Paratrooper 0]

The English team is doing well, if we were a UK team we would be leading. Well done to the Aussies though, there is less than 7 million of them and they give us a good toweling at most sports!