Low CPU utilization & Low FPS

[Llano 11]

Source :

https://www.google.pl/search?q=overclocking+fps+GTA+V&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=NMd3VtKyLsvmyQPdmaSYDg

For me reinstalling windows helped but read it again - I DONT KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY WORKED HERE. For me and 6 people from Multiplayer session it helped. But it was after one of us done this trick. Remember, reinstalling windows also clearing registry, cleaning HDD, deleting all malwares/viruses/ restrore all to default values etc. I had personally overclocked GPU and had lower FPS than before OC, i restored default GPU state and problem was still present - so i decided i have nothing to loose - reinstalled system and it worked. After last update my FPS is little lower but still acceptable. 25 WAS LOWEST VALUE - read post with understanding ok? Now lowest value is around 17 FPS when there are lot of wrecks smoke and other particle effects

That's your source? A link to a google search... wow.

And i see multiple post that says that it increased their fps by overclocking.

[Vasily.B 529]

I readed it on 10+ forums -  around 20 peoples with same problem on every single thread. That mean something. Thats why i used link to google search. Thats obvious. Overclocking is helping in SOME cases, but read OFFICIAL warning on GPU,CPU wrapping, CPU,GPU softwares etc.

[Llano 11]

I readed it on 10+ forums -  around 20 peoples with same problem on every single thread. That mean something. Thats why i used link to google search. Thats obvious. Overclocking is helping in SOME cases, but read OFFICIAL warning on GPU,CPU wrapping, CPU,GPU softwares etc.

Sigh. Can you provide any actual benchmark of this?

[Vasily.B 529]

Sigh. Can you provide any actual benchmark of this?

Are you from KGB, CIA or what? Cant you read or search in google? "read OFFICIAL warning on GPU,CPU wrapping, CPU,GPU softwares etc."

EDIT:

From AMD Settings software;

"OSTRZEÅ»ENIE:  Procesory AMD powinny pracować jedynie w zakresie ich danych technicznych i nastaw fabrycznych. Praca procesorów AMD poza oficjalnymi parametrami danych technicznych lub poza zakresem nastaw fabrycznych, w tym miÄ™dzy innymi wykonanie przetaktowania (a także używania programów przetaktowujÄ…cych, nawet gdy programy te sÄ… dostarczane bezpoÅ›rednio lub poÅ›rednio przez firmÄ™ AMD lub podmioty powiÄ…zane z AMD), może uszkodzić procesor lub powodować inne problemy, w tym miÄ™dzy innymi uszkodzenie komponentów systemu (w tym pÅ‚yty głównej i jej komponentów (np. pamiÄ™ci)), niestabilność systemu (np. utratÄ™ danych lub uszkodzenie obrazów), pogorszenie siÄ™ parametrów systemu, obniżenie parametrów i żywotnoÅ›ci procesora oraz komponentów systemu, a w skrajnych przypadkach – caÅ‚kowite uszkodzenie systemu. AMD nie zapewnia obsÅ‚ugi ani serwisu w przypadku problemów lub uszkodzeÅ„ zwiÄ…zanych z użytkowaniem procesorów AMD poza oficjalnÄ… specyfikacjÄ… lub poza zakresem nastaw fabrycznych. Możliwe jest również, że nie zostanie zapewniony serwis ani obsÅ‚uga ze strony producenta pÅ‚yty głównej lub systemu. Należy siÄ™ upewnić, że przed użyciem tego programu przetaktowujÄ…cego zostaÅ‚y zapisane wszystkie ważne dane. USZKODZENIA SPOWODOWANE UÅ»YTKOWANIEM PROCESORA W WARUNKACH POZA OFICJALNYMI SPECYFIKACJAMI FIRMY AMD LUB W WARUNKACH POZA NASTAWAMI FABRYCZNYMI NIE PODLEGAJÄ„ Å»ADNEJ GWARANCJI OBEJMUJÄ„CEJ PRODUKTY FIRMY AMD I MOGÄ„ NIE PODLEGAĆ GWARANCJI UDZIELANEJ PRZEZ PRODUCENTA PÅYTY GÅÓWNEJ LUB SYSTEMU.

OSTRZEÅ»ENIE: Oprogramowanie dostarczane bezpoÅ›rednio lub poÅ›rednio przez firmÄ™ AMD lub przez podmioty powiÄ…zane z AMD może wyÅ‚Ä…czać lub modyfikować: (1) oprogramowanie, w tym cechy i funkcje zawarte w systemie operacyjnym, sterownikach i aplikacjach oraz inne ustawienia systemu operacyjnego, a także (2) usÅ‚ugi systemowe. CAÅKOWITE LUB CZĘŚCIOWE WYÅÄ„CZENIE LUB ZMODYFIKOWANIE TYCH ELEMENTÓW PRZEZ TE MATERIAÅY MOÅ»E POCIÄ„GNĄĆ ZA SOBÄ„ (A) ZWIĘKSZENIE RYZYKA NIESPRAWNOÅšCI PEWNYCH FUNKCJI ZABEZPIECZEŃ, A PRZEZ TO NARAÅ»ENIE KOMPUTERA NA POTENCJALNE ZAGROÅ»ENIA DLA BEZPIECZEŃSTWA, W TYM MIĘDZY INNYMI NA SZKODY SPOWODOWANE WIRUSAMI, ROBAKAMI I INNYM SZKODLIWYM OPROGRAMOWANIEM; ( B) PROBLEMY ZWIÄ„ZANE Z WYDAJNOÅšCIÄ„ I ZGODNOÅšCIÄ„, KTÓRE MOGÄ„ W NEGATYWNY SPOSÓB WPÅYNĄĆ NA EKSPLOATACJĘ I STABILNOŚĆ UÅ»YWANEGO SYSTEMU KOMPUTEROWEGO; ORAZ © INNE NEGATYWNE KONSEKWENCJE, W TYM MIĘDZY INNYMI USZKODZENIE LUB UTRATĘ DANYCH."

Please use translator at least.

 

[Llano 11]

Are you from KGB, CIA or what? Cant you read or search in google? "read OFFICIAL warning on GPU,CPU wrapping, CPU,GPU softwares etc."

EDIT:

From AMD Settings software;

"OSTRZEÅ»ENIE:  Procesory AMD powinny pracować jedynie w zakresie ich danych technicznych i nastaw fabrycznych. Praca procesorów AMD poza oficjalnymi parametrami danych technicznych lub poza zakresem nastaw fabrycznych, w tym miÄ™dzy innymi wykonanie przetaktowania (a także używania programów przetaktowujÄ…cych, nawet gdy programy te sÄ… dostarczane bezpoÅ›rednio lub poÅ›rednio przez firmÄ™ AMD lub podmioty powiÄ…zane z AMD), może uszkodzić procesor lub powodować inne problemy, w tym miÄ™dzy innymi uszkodzenie komponentów systemu (w tym pÅ‚yty głównej i jej komponentów (np. pamiÄ™ci)), niestabilność systemu (np. utratÄ™ danych lub uszkodzenie obrazów), pogorszenie siÄ™ parametrów systemu, obniżenie parametrów i żywotnoÅ›ci procesora oraz komponentów systemu, a w skrajnych przypadkach – caÅ‚kowite uszkodzenie systemu. AMD nie zapewnia obsÅ‚ugi ani serwisu w przypadku problemów lub uszkodzeÅ„ zwiÄ…zanych z użytkowaniem procesorów AMD poza oficjalnÄ… specyfikacjÄ… lub poza zakresem nastaw fabrycznych. Możliwe jest również, że nie zostanie zapewniony serwis ani obsÅ‚uga ze strony producenta pÅ‚yty głównej lub systemu. Należy siÄ™ upewnić, że przed użyciem tego programu przetaktowujÄ…cego zostaÅ‚y zapisane wszystkie ważne dane. USZKODZENIA SPOWODOWANE UÅ»YTKOWANIEM PROCESORA W WARUNKACH POZA OFICJALNYMI SPECYFIKACJAMI FIRMY AMD LUB W WARUNKACH POZA NASTAWAMI FABRYCZNYMI NIE PODLEGAJÄ„ Å»ADNEJ GWARANCJI OBEJMUJÄ„CEJ PRODUKTY FIRMY AMD I MOGÄ„ NIE PODLEGAĆ GWARANCJI UDZIELANEJ PRZEZ PRODUCENTA PÅYTY GÅÓWNEJ LUB SYSTEMU.

OSTRZEÅ»ENIE: Oprogramowanie dostarczane bezpoÅ›rednio lub poÅ›rednio przez firmÄ™ AMD lub przez podmioty powiÄ…zane z AMD może wyÅ‚Ä…czać lub modyfikować: (1) oprogramowanie, w tym cechy i funkcje zawarte w systemie operacyjnym, sterownikach i aplikacjach oraz inne ustawienia systemu operacyjnego, a także (2) usÅ‚ugi systemowe. CAÅKOWITE LUB CZĘŚCIOWE WYÅÄ„CZENIE LUB ZMODYFIKOWANIE TYCH ELEMENTÓW PRZEZ TE MATERIAÅY MOÅ»E POCIÄ„GNĄĆ ZA SOBÄ„ (A) ZWIĘKSZENIE RYZYKA NIESPRAWNOÅšCI PEWNYCH FUNKCJI ZABEZPIECZEŃ, A PRZEZ TO NARAÅ»ENIE KOMPUTERA NA POTENCJALNE ZAGROÅ»ENIA DLA BEZPIECZEŃSTWA, W TYM MIĘDZY INNYMI NA SZKODY SPOWODOWANE WIRUSAMI, ROBAKAMI I INNYM SZKODLIWYM OPROGRAMOWANIEM; ( B) PROBLEMY ZWIÄ„ZANE Z WYDAJNOÅšCIÄ„ I ZGODNOÅšCIÄ„, KTÓRE MOGÄ„ W NEGATYWNY SPOSÓB WPÅYNĄĆ NA EKSPLOATACJĘ I STABILNOŚĆ UÅ»YWANEGO SYSTEMU KOMPUTEROWEGO; ORAZ © INNE NEGATYWNE KONSEKWENCJE, W TYM MIĘDZY INNYMI USZKODZENIE LUB UTRATĘ DANYCH."

Please use translator at least.

 

Yes, i am very aware how to search or read google. That link only gives me result of people stating that they got better fps when they overclocked.

 

And i don't even know what you are trying to say with that russian/whatever piece. That you may damage the cpu if you overclock over the official parameters. Well, no shit? And how again does this backup your statement that overclocking cpu/gpu wont help performance wise?

[Vasily.B 529]

Yes, i am very aware how to search or read google. That link only gives me result of people stating that they got better fps when they overclocked.

 

And i don't even know what you are trying to say with that russian/whatever piece. That you may damage the cpu if you overclock over the official parameters. Well, no shit? And how again does this backup your statement that overclocking cpu/gpu wont help performance wise?

Facepalm....... First 3 resoults:

GTA V not liking my GPU overclock - Steam Community

Overclockers, did overclocking increase your FPS ... - Reddit (Every time I overclock my GPU GTA V crashes sooner or later.)

 GTA 5 - overclocking has no affect on the fps?

Am i talking with disabled man? Or 4 year child?

Man learn how to read and stop spamming thread.

I translate text beacuse it seems to be problem for you - damm 5 seconds on translate.google.com (auto detection language of text for fox sake!)

"may damage the processor or cause other problems, including but not limited damage to the system components (including the main board and its components (eg. storage)), instability of the system (eg. the loss of data or damage to the image), deterioration in system performance derating and vitality"

SO OVERCLOCKING HELPING ONLY IN SOME CASES - END OF DISCUSION!!!!

     

[St. Jimmy 272]

Facepalm....... First 3 resoults:

GTA V not liking my GPU overclock - Steam CommunityOverclockers, did overclocking increase your FPS ... - Reddit (Every time I overclock my GPU GTA V crashes sooner or later.)

 GTA 5 - overclocking has no affect on the fps?

Am i talking with disabled man? Or 4 year child?

Man learn how to read and stop spamming thread.

I translate text beacuse it seems to be problem for you - damm 5 seconds on translate.google.com (auto detection language of text for fox sake!)"may damage the processor or cause other problems, including but not limited damage to the system components (including the main board and its components (eg. storage)), instability of the system (eg. the loss of data or damage to the image), deterioration in system performance derating and vitality"

SO OVERCLOCKING HELPING ONLY IN SOME CASES - END OF DISCUSION!!!!

Are you really serious? I don't know if this is a troll of the year or just very bad language barrier...

Let's replace that last statement to a realistic one. Your links even say the same:

Overclocking helps in most of the situations unless the overclock is bad or done wrong or the bottleneck is somewhere else.

System instability and component wear and damage are naturally risks but it's really not a risk when you know what you're doing and you don't overdo it. If game shows 5 more fps then it helps. Overclocks shouldn't be pushed so far that the system is unstable and if that hhappens, then it's time to easen up the clocking.

You've argued here many posts that something doesn't help when it really does help. It's like saying water doesn't help thirst. Of course when you drink too much (overdo it) you can even die. Everyone knows that here but the statement was that overclocking CPU does bring better performance in Arma and you seemed to fight against that, though you're only talking about part wear and instability that are totally different things.

[Vasily.B 529]

On 20 people there is always one who overclocking helped. But me personally it wasnt working, more - it makes situation worse. And this one man who have better resoult will write we (20people) have done something wrong. Actually there is nothing to do wrong, We have software deliverd with hardware - easy to use, with few clicks.  I am damm serious, beacuse overclockind didnt helped me, my 2 brothers, my cousins, and 8 of my friends. Enough? Look at changelogs and official statement on rockstar support pages, what advices they was giving months after GTA premiere. I will stay in this opinion for ever, and nobody will tell me it is working so good with every title. Its is officially stated with every software, on every box of the hardware you want to overclock. Its not my invention.

Besides that i was reading tons of forums when i had exacly problem, it may be not this sites i given you in link, i just used quick search. It was gtaforums.com and few others, BUT IT WAS 6 MONTHS AGO, i dont save every site i visit.

In case of arma 3 overclocking just maked situation worse, after houndrets of advices by advanced, experienced users i just disabled it.

Besides that in first link :
"

GTA V not liking my GPU overclock

So everytime I play GTA V with a GPU overclock, it gives me 5-10 more FPS but it crashes with

"Failed Initialization. reboot and try again. If problem persists reinstall game "

and this only happens with an overclock. It doesn't happen without an overclock.

Do you guys have similar problems?" CRASHES!!!! Is it gain or loose?

Next comment(s) :
"GTA V runs bad with OC cards."

And again overclocking is something i will never advice anyone, but it is helping IN SOME CASES (depends of hardware, OC possibilities), its like with Russian rulete.

[Llano 11]

Well, i'm not going to continue this pointles discussion. You clearly don't understand what me and other people is trying to tell you, Vasily.B.

Oh and merry christmas.

[Vasily.B 529]

Well, i'm not going to continue this pointles discussion. You clearly don't understand what me and other people is trying to tell you, Vasily.B.

Oh and merry christmas.

I am not understanding? Heh, got luck with your understanding. Merry Chriustams too.

[mobile_medic 43]

GTA V is much better at making use of modern multi-core hardware and spreading the load across available threads than Arma is. Arma only utilizes about 2 cores worth of cumulative cpu usage. That is why you likely wouldn't notice as much difference overclocking gta compared to Arma (assuming an adequate cpu). B/c GTA is already doing a good job of distributing the workload across your available horsepower, where as arma seems to leave much of that compute power unused. Therefore increasing the per-thread performance (by overclocking) tends to produce more noticeable results in Arma compared to some other games that are more modern-hardware friendly.

[Vasily.B 529]

GTA V is much better at making use of modern multi-core hardware and spreading the load across available threads than Arma is. Arma only utilizes about 2 cores worth of cumulative cpu usage. That is why you likely wouldn't notice as much difference overclocking gta compared to Arma (assuming an adequate cpu). B/c GTA is already doing a good job of distributing the workload across your available horsepower, where as arma seems to leave much of that compute power unused. Therefore increasing the per-thread performance (by overclocking) tends to produce more noticeable results in Arma compared to some other games that are more modern-hardware friendly.

Yes, it uses (as you sayed) 2 cores mainly, so bigger Ghz on those cores = more FPS IN THEORY. For me it wasnt helping with OC CPU and GPU. Overclocking in my case lowered FPS, and system was less stable, even when i have done this with experts advices from AMD and Intel support.

[KeyCat 131]

 

On 20 people there is always one who overclocking helped. But me personally it wasnt working, more - it makes situation worse. And this one man who have better resoult will write we (20people) have done something wrong. Actually there is nothing to do wrong, We have software deliverd with hardware - easy to use, with few clicks.  I am damm serious, beacuse overclockind didnt helped me, my 2 brothers, my cousins, and 8 of my friends. Enough?

 

Here you have my results. It's 4.40 GHz vs 4.70 GHz.

 

ArmA3 Benchmark 0.51 - Altis (SP with max settings)

4.40 GHz = 50 fps

4.70 GHz = 54 fps

 

So in short... it does help unless you  have a bottleneck elsewhere.

 

/KC

[Vasily.B 529]

Here you have my results. It's 4.40 GHz vs 4.70 GHz.

 

ArmA3 Benchmark 0.51 - Altis (SP with max settings)

4.40 GHz = 50 fps

4.70 GHz = 54 fps

 

So in short... it does help unless you  have a bottleneck elsewhere.

 

/KC

In some cases â„¢

[teilx 4]

yeah, because some system are not capable and users are not able to do......even with super easy software help xD

 

 

 

edit:

 

 

 

Now with i5 its easy too, but its less stable. There is nothing to mess up, it 3 clicks and done, users knowledge has nothing to do today                              

    It Is Either A or B but one of these always hits xD............btw overclocking it is never easy(some software imply, but it isn't),,,,,long term testing, knowledge/understanding of the system hardware, voltage/Vcore,cooling,step by step etc....     So "it 3 clicks and done" one of the most reasons why it fails in most xD

[Vasily.B 529]

yeah, because some system are not capable and users are not able to do......even with super easy software help xD

System ok, but users and software - i do not agree. On my OLD PC overclocking was same easy and it worked but it was 2 core CPU and i wasnt able to OC it too much. Now with i5 its easy too, but its less stable. There is nothing to mess up, it 3 clicks and done, users knowledge has nothing to do today. Even support guys told me to not do this - i was guided step-by-step when problem appeared. So once again its not users fault.

[das attorney 858]

System ok, but users and software - i do not agree. On my OLD PC overclocking was same easy and it worked but it was 2 core CPU and i wasnt able to OC it too much. Now with i5 its easy too, but its less stable. There is nothing to mess up, it 3 clicks and done, users knowledge has nothing to do today. Even support guys told me to not do this - i was guided step-by-step when problem appeared. So once again its not users fault.

 

You probably fucked up the overclock.  No offence, but guys from the company that sold you your motherboard/cpu aren't going to tell you how to really get a good overclock as it opens their company up to all sorts of exposure.

 

Go into BIOS and do your overclock manually from there.  Your chip is great for overclocking (i5) so if you say it's unstable then you are doing it wrong.  You need to understand the relationship between CPU clock ratio QPI, Uncore freq, BCLK etc and all of the voltage changes/RAM timing changes you may need to make.  Google it up and you'll find a decent guide easily.

 

TBH, I had really shitty performance until recently when I updated all of the drivers correctly on my motherboard.  I did it before but ballsed it up and the Windows default drivers were handling everything.  Now performance in general (and esp with this game) is better, so sometimes it's worth checking what your PC is doing and you may find a solution.

 

That said, the game still isn't scaling correctly and there's bad usage other than core zero (the main Arma thread I guess).

[Vasily.B 529]

You probably fucked up the overclock.  No offence, but guys from the company that sold you your motherboard/cpu aren't going to tell you how to really get a good overclock as it opens their company up to all sorts of exposure.

 

Go into BIOS and do your overclock manually from there.  Your chip is great for overclocking (i5) so if you say it's unstable then you are doing it wrong.  You need to understand the relationship between CPU clock ratio QPI, Uncore freq, BCLK etc and all of the voltage changes/RAM timing changes you may need to make.  Google it up and you'll find a decent guide easily.

 

TBH, I had really shitty performance until recently when I updated all of the drivers correctly on my motherboard.  I did it before but ballsed it up and the Windows default drivers were handling everything.  Now performance in general (and esp with this game) is better, so sometimes it's worth checking what your PC is doing and you may find a solution.

 

That said, the game still isn't scaling correctly and there's bad usage other than core zero (the main Arma thread I guess).

As i told you i was talking with support, then proffesionals (from guru3d). There was nothing to fuck up, it is simple as can be. CPUZ software is for that, you click only 3 buttons. CPU is designed to overclock (mine) so there was no problem with that, problem starts to appear AFTER OC, when game start to eat most of CPU. Like power was too high, but it was enough high, and not too low. I am not the only one. That was caused by Windows Updates and video drivers that didnt liked OC CPU and GPU, games had problems with this too. Now Arma 3 have big FPS boost when everything is default.

[das attorney 858]

CPUZ software is for that, you click only 3 buttons. 

 

That's your problem.  Overclock through BIOS, not software.

[Vasily.B 529]

Checked in bios after CPUZ usage - everything was fine. Clear software problem (compatibility). This is why everything was unstable.

[AdEr111 0]

Hello,my friend got really big problem,and me and my friends are clueless on what is going on.

I recently bought Arma 3 Extended edition on steam one for me,and one for my friend.

Our other buddies where already playing it for some time,and they told us how to configure our video settings etc.

For me,the game runs great,40 - 60 fps on Stratis Wasteland Multiplayer server.

Here are my specs:

I3 -4330 3,5GHz

Radeon R9 280X 2 GB

8GB ram

He has:

 intel i5 4460 3,2 GHz

gtx 960 nvidia 2GB

SSD disk which the game is installed

8GB Ram

He has MASSIVE fps drops while pressing any keybord button.He has like 60-80  fps while riding a car,and standing still,but as soon as he presses shift/caps lock,starts moving,or almost any other button the game almost stops for him,and hes got like 3 FPS,which is making the game unplayable.The strange thing is,when he presses SPACE on keybord,the game runs smooth again,until he presses anythynig else.Im writing instead of him,cause hes not good with english.We tried almost everythjing i could find on google,but still the problem is not solved.

Has anyone experienced something similiar?Any suggestions?What could cause this?Its the weirdest thing i saw in any game.Other games he has run normal(for example CS:GO,H1Z1,Witcher 3)

 

He tried even playing on solo ,and unmodded Arma - its still the same.

Please help

[St. Jimmy 272]

Hello,my friend got really big problem,and me and my friends are clueless on what is going on.

He has MASSIVE fps drops while pressing any keybord button.He has like 60-80  fps while riding a car,and standing still,but as soon as he presses shift/caps lock,starts moving,or almost any other button the game almost stops for him,and hes got like 3 FPS,which is making the game unplayable.The strange thing is,when he presses SPACE on keybord,the game runs smooth again,until he presses anythynig else.Im writing instead of him,cause hes not good with english.We tried almost everythjing i could find on google,but still the problem is not solved.

Has anyone experienced something similiar?Any suggestions?What could cause this?Its the weirdest thing i saw in any game.Other games he has run normal(for example CS:GO,H1Z1,Witcher 3)

Please help

What keyboard he has and what drivers it uses? There are couple of these kind of reports happening every now and then but I don't know what has caused those.

One thing you could try is to run the game without BattlEye.

 

You can try to report it in here and get some help or even find same issue with the search function: http://feedback.arma3.com/my_view_page.php

Here's how to guide: http://feedback.arma3.com/how-to-user.html

[AdEr111 0]

Thx,as soon as he wakes up,ill write down the keyboard and the drivers of the keybord.Ill also ask him to run the game without battle eye.

[AdEr111 0]

Without BattleEye game runs normally,without any fps drops...

[St. Jimmy 272]

Without BattleEye game runs normally,without any fps drops...

OK I've heard that one before. Does BattlEye block anything (usually .dll files) when he starts the game? You can see it in the launcher's BattlEye tab. Maybe it's blocking something from the keyboard.

Also does he have any mods running or is it the same without mods?