Kill zone

[walshy007 0]

( Kill zone ) I thought this might have improved in this latest version but alas no! I went into the Editor set up 3 men about 300/400yrds away and sat as the Gunner in my Main Battle Tank and fired a shell right between the 3 of them. It hit very close to the middle man's feet, a few second after the smoke cleared I seen 3 bodies lying on the ground but not for long , they stood up and carried on as though a firework had went off next to them instead of a Sabot Shell. Still got my own back , aborted the Tank and went back in with my pistol and shot the 3 of them in the head, that will teach them not to die when I hit them with a Tank round. The Sim is still the best out there but I hope this will be fixed.

Highlander !

[Kermit 0]

This is a Resistance question, isn't it? In Operation Flashpoint, once someone falls down, they stay down. Unless, that is, they merely went to prone position and then got up. But then you should have been able to see that they were still alive while in prone position.

Do people get blown down while still alive in Resistance?

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Moving to R.

[USMC Sniper 0]

this just happens because in operation flashpoint the sabot shells do not hav splash damage, and shood only be used against tanks. use the he shell against infantry instead.

[Kermit 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USMC Sniper @ July 09 2002,22:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In Operation Flashpoint the sabot shells do not have splash damage.<span id='postcolor'>

I didn't know that.  That's interesting.  However, I don't think that it's so very unrealistic; in real life, sabot shells probably wouldn't hurt a huge group of soldiers.  But then again, I'm just speculating.

[Edit: I rephrased it.  My first post wasn't very understandable. I hate this "HEY EVERYONE! EDITED BY SO-AND-SO" function. But then, I suppose it's necessary to prevent people from changing their posts' meanings.]

[Mister Frag 0]

Yup, sabot rounds use a hardened dart (usually made of tungsten) to penetrate the armor of the target -- they are kinetic energy weapons.

If the sabot hits the dirt between a group of soldiers, they will probably cream their pants if they figure out what just happened, but they wouldn't suffer any real injuries.

[Guest]

A sabot round fired in the vicinity of people would probably rip their limbs apart. The sabot creates a pressure wave in its immediate neighbourhood that is indeed fatal.

[Baztard1984 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yup, sabot rounds use a hardened dart (usually made of tungsten) to penetrate the armor of the target -- they are kinetic energy weapons.<span id='postcolor'>

I thought it was made of depleted uranium, more dense than lead?

[Ruud van Nistelrooy 0]

This is the same with RPG's. I can understand why sabots don't have splash damage (try HEAT's) but you'd have thought rpg's would kill a few infantry if you fired into a group.

On that occupation mission, where you see the big line of ruskies walking around the base, i fired an rpg dead center into the line and only 2 of them died

[OldGrandad 0]

Hmm, when I crested the hill to the west of the base in Occupation I saw a group of soldiers standing close together and one round from the RPG sent them all to hell and back

[Eviscerator 0]

AFAIK sabot is a depleted uranium rod, and ejects the outer casing of the round once its fired, so it pretty much works like a spear but fired from a large cannon and its a really hard substance, sabot is used to pierce the armour then a heat shell is fired to kill the crew/destroy the tank

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1. What is depleted uranium?

Depleted uranium is still uranium. There are three types of uranium, U238, U234 and U235. Uranium 234 and 235 are fissionable material, the kind used in bombs. Depleted uranium is what is left over when the U234 and U235 are removed. The remaining U238 is still radioactive.

2.Why is it used in weapons?

A DU round is made from the leftover U238. The killing punch comes from the solid depleted uranium metal rod in the shell. A 120-mm tank round contains about 4,000 grams or 10 pounds of solid DU. A DU rod is very dense - about 1.7 times as dense as lead.

3. Has DU been used in combat?

In the Gulf War, the U.S. fired as many as a million DU rounds, leaving a battlefield littered with 1,400 wrecked radioactive Iraqi tanks.

During the 78-day Kosovo War in 1999, the U.S. fired 31,000 rounds of DU at Yugoslav armoured vehicles and tanks. There are reports that the U.S. fired 10,800 DU rounds during combat in Bosnia during the air campaign in 1994 and 1995.

Depleted uranium shell

4. What happens when a shell explodes?

At high speed, DU slices through tank armour like a hot knife through butter, triggering the explosive content and creating a fire hot enough to melt aluminum. The depleted uranium also burns on impact, creating flying bits and dust that are toxic and radioactive with a half-life of 4.2 billion years.

5. How dangerous is depleted uranium?

Most scientists say the level of radioactivity in depleted uranium is low, lower than naturally occurring uranium in the environment.

However, DU can be dangerous once it has been used on a battlefield. Then DU can be considered both a chemical and toxic waste hazard, and a radiation hazard.

If a chemical form of DU that is soluble in water is present, then the DU can be either absorbed by breathing or by ingestion. That could cause heavy metal chemical toxic effects in the kidneys.

If the areas are contaminated by uranium oxide, then the hazard comes from inhaling the dust. The dust could be deposited in the lungs and could, over a long period, be a cause of lung cancer.

Most scientists say that large exposures would be needed to cause a significant increase in the risk.

Military authorities at the Pentagon and the British Ministry of Defence say depleted uranium does not pose a significant danger.

As for Canada, Brig.-Gen. David Jerkowski told CBC News in 1999 that, "Our soldiers are not at risk. There are other risks that are much greater than depleted uranium: there are many, many more threats out there: landmines, diseases, reptiles. It depends on where we work in the world, and there are many greater risks than that."

In Canada, Britain and the United States, veterans' groups have disagreed, saying that what was called Gulf War Syndrome and the recent appearance of what is being called Balkan Syndrome could be the result of exposure to depleted uranium.

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This has now gone OT.

[Mister Frag 0]

The US military, one of the largest users of depleted uranium rounds, is supposed to be phasing them out because of environmental and health concerns.

Anyway, there is lots of useful info HERE.

[cybrid 0]

What I have notice is that when you shoot a long distance with a tank you can miss by several meters by over or under shooting. From the point at which you shoot from the targets location must be aimed to the exact pixel.