Submarines and Naval Battles

[sgtpepper181 1]

I understand there are personal submersible carriers in the game which look really awesome. Could the game potentially support bigger submarines later on do you think? I think it would be neat if Arma 3 was also to focus on a full on naval battle with frigates and carriers since in the new engine you can travel underwater.

[antoineflemming 14]

This belongs more in the Community Wishes and Ideas No Discussion thread, but I think that either in the vanilla ArmA3 game or in a later expansion pack, BIS should add in full navies for NATO and Iran. Both have naval vessels, and a regionally-powerful Iran would definitely have a strong navy if it were to be a match for NATO. Seeing as Iran is focused on Limnos, Iranians on the island would most definitely be supplied by a naval vessel. Iran should really have a fleet in the Aegean sea.

[KC Grimes 79]

That would be a crazy-big new addition to the game, but would certainly be awesome. ArmA 2 has land, air, and sea, sure... but a few dinghies and a fishing boat and non-operating frigates are no real navy.

I'm thinking an operational aircraft carrier (maybe a small version) that automatically refuels, repairs, and rearms at certain points and has its own settable launch system. And a frigate that is drivable and has a handful of gunner seats that control various guns from machine guns to cannons to cruise missiles.

[sgtsn1per 1]

I'm guessing this may have to be an addon or mod, which im sure many talented modders will jump right on to

[ProfTournesol 956]

I'm guessing this may have to be an addon or mod, which im sure many talented modders will jump right on to

Gnat :rolleyes2:

[zamani532 1]

It will be pretty shitty as when in water you will still see blue all inside the submarine.

[antoineflemming 14]

It will be pretty shitty as when in water you will still see blue all inside the submarine.

Yeah, that's why BIS needs to do it.

[zamani532 1]

Probably not possible with the ArmA engine.

[Amuro 10]

It will never happen. ARMA's focus has always been the foot-soldiers. Even if they did add naval combat, it would be arcade, not realistic anyway.

[sgtsn1per 1]

It will never happen. ARMA's focus has always been the foot-soldiers. Even if they did add naval combat, it would be arcade, not realistic anyway.

That is when the modders come into it ;)

[Sandy106 1]

More surface ships, like destroyers and escorts that could provide artillery fire on land would be pretty cool. Submarines seem kind of silly imo tho since the map isnt really big enough to have huge underwater battles.

[[aps]gnat 28]

Gnat :rolleyes2:

:D

If I had one wish from BIS, its that they increase the model max geometry size. Maybe 128m cube :P

[PLBJay 1]

And i will say it woud be AWESOME. with some neval battles. but by now i just wanna get my hands on the arma 3 beta and play the living cucumber out of it. it will be glorious!

[antoineflemming 14]

It will never happen. ARMA's focus has always been the foot-soldiers. Even if they did add naval combat, it would be arcade, not realistic anyway.

And how do you figure that it would be arcade and not realistic? Do you consider the aircraft and vehicle combat to be arcade?

[igneous01 19]

I think maybe two small frigates per side that have working cannons. Since theres alot of coast to on the island, there will most definitly be an increase in land invasions from sea, so having a small frigate escort and support for a land invasion would be beneficial.

Im gonna say no to submarines though, when could you possibly use a submarine anyway? sure you can torpedo frigates, but frigates can travel in shallower water than a submarine can.

[Amuro 10]

And how do you figure that it would be arcade and not realistic? Do you consider the aircraft and vehicle combat to be arcade?

Yes, I do consider them to be arcade.

[someguywho 12]

And how do you figure that it would be arcade and not realistic? Do you consider the aircraft and vehicle combat to be arcade?

Yep. by sim standards they are. But we're not asking for a new dangerous waters just like we're not getting a new DCS or steel beasts but what we are hoping for is a combined ops sim with sea air and land ops.

[ProfTournesol 956]

Yep. by sim standards they are. But we're not asking for a new dangerous waters just like we're not getting a new DCS or steel beasts but what we are hoping for is a combined ops sim with sea air and land ops.

Exactly :)

[Phantom Six 25]

For the people who say no to submarine... why not? Why can't we just make a pure water island and have a big old naval battle? Cmon its ArmA, not only is it milsim and a tactical shooter but it is an awesome gigantic sandbox so... MAKE ALL THE THINGS :D

[pathetic_berserker 4]

I'll forgive BIS for not actually including specific naval units but I'm hoping that they at least make it easier for addon makers and include some VSB2 style improvements to cater for decks below water line and increase the allowable geometry size.

[Foxtrop 10]

I will be happy if at least we could had an hierarchy physic system to not just be left behind by the boat that where you was over, of course under certain conditions

[[aps]gnat 28]

"Walk on moving decks" from VBS would help a lot too.

[jumpartist 0]

yes, Im really not sure why VBS is holding on to this bit for themselves. Isnt their Jewel the after action system? They gave up their IR system but not this? having this could open up so many easily doable things like, firing from moving vehicles and what not. I know there are scripted ways of doing this but its not easy.

[giorgygr 61]

Gnat;2190039']"Walk on moving decks" from VBS would help a lot too.

I don't know if it's from VBS but this feature SHOULD HAVE existed from OFP era.

This crap-way-around we are forced to use with AttachTo command (and always job not done) must over HERE.

[ruhtraeel 1]

This idea would be so awesome it would be silly.

5+ people operating a frigate with shore bombardment, and AA guns.

If only enough people played it to fill that quota for a full scale war.