Why is ofp rated "m"?

[Die Alive 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MDRZulu @ June 05 2002,21:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BEFORE!!!!!!!

AFTER!!!!

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Are those soccer moms and old men down there? lol

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[Kep Kelagin 1]

mabye to get the sales even higher...

[ralphwiggum 6]

I'm kinda happy that OFP got 'Mature' rating.

After all, isn't this game aimed for mature players?(except me ofcourse). no bunny-hopping, running and shooting..etc..

[Aculaud 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ June 06 2002,09:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Bastard" is technically not a swear word, perhaps it was the scene where Angelina told Guba to "stick your mangy fucking scud up your arse"..........or perhaps it was I that said that, not sure

Anyways what does it matter that it's rated "M"? (or 15+ if it's the English version), I would guess that the only people concerned about it's rating are the ones that are technically too young to legally buy it themselves?  <span id='postcolor'>

yeah, i would have thought swear words would be everything from shit up. Shit, fuck, bitch, etc. Bastard, i honestly wouldnt think would get more than a teen rating. I call people bastards all the time, including my own parents.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ June 06 2002,14:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">After all, isn't this game aimed for mature players?(except me ofcourse). no bunny-hopping, running and shooting..etc..<span id='postcolor'>

lol, I downloaded and tried the new beta of the Half Life mod, Firearms. No more than 3 minutes into a game, I come face to face with a guy holding a M82, he's bunny hops, circle straffs and kills me, all the while i'm unloading my AK into him.

Uninstalled. Deleted. Empty Recycling bin.

And i played this game almost every day before the OFP demo came out.

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[EBass 0]

Its cos America has an insanely strong political correctness and strong religous side. Insanely strong, like banning God the Devil and Bob flashpoint has no rating in UK cos we have some sensibility in our cencors. Its an M or whatever u have cos of the realism OH THE HUMANITY, u know running through the woods and ur leader takes a grenade 2 yards away and goes down with blood all over

[dayglow 2]

How is a rating wrong? How does it effect the way people play the game? I for one don't care. I think things should be rated to better help parents make decisions, especially if they are not familiar with gaming and what goes on in them. If I had a 10year old, would I want him playing OFP? I don't know. That's a hard question. I know there are games I wouldn't let my child play until he is older. Just makes sense and rating help with that.

COLINMAN

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Avon lets her kids play OFP.

[digitalcenturion 20]

I would definatively let my childs play OFP. Tho i dont think they could appreciate it until they got alittle older. However SOF(2) would be out of reach before they reach the age of 13... then it would be ok because i wouldnt want to be overly controlling..

But the whole rating crap is fucked up. As long as no asswipe wants to stop *ME* from playing any game i want its all fine with me but i suspect that the ratings will get tighter.. in finland we already have a 18+ rating that makes a product just like alchohol or tobacco, strict no no for minors.. Such games are GTA3, Severnace, SOF2 etc so nothing out of place imho

ps. Hasnt R6 more offensive content, i mean TeRroRisM!!!11 ooh aah...

[dayglow 2]

Guess since I'm well over 18 I wouldn't care about restrictive ratings, but still I think that some games like SOFII and GFAIII should be controlled who they are sold to. It forces parents to get involved in what their children are doing by making them purchase what they are getting for their children. I'm all for the involvement of parents in their childrens lives. Personally when I have children the computer will be in a central location so I know what they are looking at on the net and what they are playing.

COLINMAN

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (You_looking_at_me? @ June 07 2002,00:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">flashpoint has no rating in UK cos we have some sensibility in our cencors.<span id='postcolor'>

Dunno where you got your version from but mine is rated 15+ by ELSPA

Look at the bottom right on the back of the DVD case

[MDRZulu 0]

Ahh your right Placebo, I have the UK version too and just noticed that.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @ June 06 2002,08:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think OFP`s rated "m" because of it`s atmosphere. It can be really scary and shocking, espacially when you are on your own... in the woods... in the night...

Too much for many children. They couldn`t handle the movement-controls anyway  <span id='postcolor'>

I second that.

It´s not the graphics alone, but the feeling when you are on your own and the rest of your team has been killed, you hear enemies closing in..

Not suitable for children anyway.

And to those saying the rating is too high; if I may ask: Why are children supposed to play war simulations anyway? What is the point of that - to show them war is cool?

For those who ever take the chance to leave the editor and actually play the game sometimes, they will find a disturbingly "real" world on those island in OFP. The AI is quite good for this kind of games, as most of us know, and makes enemies behave very real sometimes.

I for one am all ok with the rating.

[Indychuck 0]

Honestly I have never seen any rating on any game effect rather or not a parent buys it. Let alone see anybody at the store card people who are obviously too young for the games rating. The rating system has nothing to do with religion or exposing kids to violence. I see more bloodshed on my local news than I do playing games and I own SOF and GTA3.

Game ratings are just a way to lay blame at something else instead of what the problem is. The Columbine School shooting they were blaming everyone. Games like Doom, Music, TV, books and everything. Instead of actually saying hey, I think these kids freaked out because they were constantly picked on and isolated. Sure there was signs of this but we were too busy with our own yuppie lives to see if our kid was ok. Ah I've got it, it's not our fault cause we're great people. It's those evil games I tell you. It's just passing the blame.

During the 60's in America most got under the impression that everyone is a good person without faults. Any fault you have is not your our fault. This outlooks is very wrong and dangerous but still occurs today. Parents refusing to admit they lead selfish lives are to blame for game ratings

[dayglow 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Indychuck @ June 08 2002,09:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Honestly I have never seen any rating on any game effect rather or not a parent buys it. Let alone see anybody at the store card people who are obviously too young for the games rating. The rating system has nothing to do with religion or exposing kids to violence. I see more bloodshed on my local news than I do playing games and I own SOF and GTA3.

 Game ratings are just a way to lay blame at something else instead of what the problem is. The Columbine School shooting they were blaming everyone. Games like Doom, Music, TV, books and everything. Instead of actually saying hey, I think these kids freaked out because they were constantly picked on and isolated. Sure there was signs of this but we were too busy with our own yuppie lives to see if our kid was ok. Ah I've got it, it's not our fault cause we're great people. It's those evil games I tell you. It's just passing the blame.

 During the 60's in America most got under the impression that everyone is a good person without faults. Any fault you have is not your our fault. This outlooks is very wrong and dangerous but still occurs today. Parents refusing to admit they lead selfish lives are to blame for game ratings<span id='postcolor'>

How is accurating rating a game for content blaming the video game industy as a whole? Just because parents and stores are too lazy to enforce the ratings doesn't mean they are pointless. I believe that ratings should be used and parents should be more involved in the lives of their kids, like you said, that's the root of the problem. When I have kids I'm going to care about what they are doing and ratings will help me.

As for games influencing people I believe that is true. You need to be disturbed in the first place, but everything around you will have an effect. It's nieve to think otherwise. Now is banning all things violent the answer? No it isn't, like I said these people need to be disturbed already. If it isn't games, then it will be books, movies, TV, D&D, mutlating small animals, etc that would feed there deprevity. The core of the problem has to be looked at and that ultimately is the home life and how that influences the rest of their lives. That's one thing I hate about our society right now, is that everyone is a victim and it's not their fault. We need to put the blame where it has to be and make people responsible for their own actions again.

COLINMAN

[Sadico 1]

Well, i'm 17 and i have been playing computer games since i was 3. I've played wolfenstein 3d, doom, doom 2, carmageddon, etc and i've never killed anyone... My parents have never told me not to play a game because it is too violent.

[EBass 0]

The ratings do nothing. I mean the only game I was ever refused was the first GTA when I was 11, so I got it off a mate. I mean if parents dont allow it other parents always will.

I saw a mother buying GTA 3 for her 4 year old. I dunno about that but Id say any normal kid over the age of 10 could handle almost all 18 rated things

[Indychuck 0]

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How is accurating rating a game for content blaming the video game industy as a whole? Just because parents and stores are too lazy to enforce the ratings doesn't mean they are pointless. I believe that ratings should be used and parents should be more involved in the lives of their kids, like you said, that's the root of the problem. When I have kids I'm going to care about what they are doing and ratings will help me.

As for games influencing people I believe that is true. You need to be disturbed in the first place, but everything around you will have an effect. It's nieve to think otherwise. Now is banning all things violent the answer? No it isn't, like I said these people need to be disturbed already. If it isn't games, then it will be books, movies, TV, D&D, mutlating small animals, etc that would feed there deprevity. The core of the problem has to be looked at and that ultimately is the home life and how that influences the rest of their lives. That's one thing I hate about our society right now, is that everyone is a victim and it's not their fault. We need to put the blame where it has to be and make people responsible for their own actions again.

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Yeah your right. My thing is the ratings are pretty much useless. For everyone one person that says hmm maybe we should get you another game there are 100s of people who don't even read the box. I play games that I would not allow my kids (if and when I have them) to play. Games like GTA3 where you car jack and murder people aimlessly shouldn't be given to an emotionally unbalanced 13 year olds yet these are the same people the game targets as it's core audience.

My problem is with the rating system itself. Like one person pointed out. Medal of Honor Allied Assault is in your face up close violence but only has a Teen rating due to lack of blood. I saw a man get beat to death in fight before we could break it up. There was no blood but his brain swelled and he died. Does the lack of blood still take away from it being a terrible thing? No.

If you rate violence you have to rate violence. You can't say well violence against people gets a mature rating only if it shows blood and uses blunt weapons like a baseball bat. You can beat women in games only if they were hooker outfits. You can shoot people with shotgun but if it doesn't show blood it only gets a Teen rating.

My thing is if it's violence against people it gets a Mature rating reguardless if it shows blood or not.

[timmy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ June 05 2002,10:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">call me a sadist, but i still wanna see some chunks when my satchel charge goes off with a squad right by it.<span id='postcolor'>

you sadist , i would like to see some sof2 style gore in this game too, but i dont think it matters that much.

As for the rating, i dont think its to bad, at least not as bad as gta3, and im not saying that gta3 is that bad. If i were a parent i wouldnt mind letting my 10 year old play gta3, but i would tell him before he played it, not to go out on the street and find some helpless afgan taxi driver and pull him out of his car and beat him and then run over his mangled body. Only in the game son, only in the game.

[deathguy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aculaud @ June 05 2002,23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">what blood? theres that spray when you shoot someone, but you never see a drop on the ground. Not one. No hearts, no livers, no intestines, nothing! And of course, no blood. I for one think that if vehicles can have that blast mark on the ground where they explode, soldiers should have a bloody pool on the ground when they hit the dirt.<span id='postcolor'>

Did not read the whole topic, but just wanted to awser this.

They're is a lot of blood in ofp. When you shoot, you can see sometime (often) the blood going out of the body (spraying). You don't see part of the body on the ground, but theyre is a lot of blood in that game and also, a lot of realism. That's why the game as been rated "M".

Currently I don't have a pic, but I can get you one easilly.