Genocide Watch upgrades South Africa to 'Stage 6 - Preparation'

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Last week Malema also racially insulted South Africa's large Indian population.

http://mg.co.za/article/2011-10-20-outrage-over-malemas-indian-slur/

Malema escorted into a courthouse accompanied by men armed with Dashprod SAR M14 rifles. Malema's security guards, devoid of any insignia or logos, threatened lawyers involved in his court case, and some positioned themselves outside and inside the court. Equality Court Judge Collin Lamont had to stop proceedings to order the removal of “people carrying guns†in his courtroom after being told about their presence. There was no credible threat to Mr. Malema's security and this show of armed force in a court room is unprecedented.

Malema has organised an ANC Youth League march (for 27th Oct) on government offices in central Johannesburg as a first step in a direct challenge to President Jacob Zuma's authority. The organisation of the march was widely criticised by police and public safety officials. ANCYL has refused to pay insurance and the march is expected to turn violent. Residents and the public have been warned to stay away from the area. The march was taking place a day after testimony in Malema's disciplinary hearing was concluded. He and several co-leaders face charges of bringing the ruling party into disrepute.

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Channel 4 Unreported World:

South Africa: Trouble in the Townships

Channel 4 News's Krishnan Guru-Murthy introduces each programme and reports for this first edition from South Africa. Seventeen years after it was freed from apartheid, he finds a country in which violent protests against corruption and the lack of basic services mean its ambition to lead the continent as a prosperous democracy hangs in the balance. Simmering with anger, its people tell him they feel a sense of betrayal they will tolerate no longer. Trevor Manual Minister in charge of the National Planning Commission agreed that 'all individuals with power over political processes should be open to public scrutiny, including ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema'.

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2 adverts unfortunately but 24 minutes of excellent TV afterwards.

Clips of the episode from CH4:

Krishnan Guru-Murthy reports from South Africa where, seventeen years after it was freed from apartheid, he finds corruption and a lack of basic services.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/video/series-2011/episode-11/trouble-in-the-townships

Malema’s mansion woes

Planning Minister and ANC stalwart Trevor Manuel has urged Julius Malema to come clean on his financial affairs amid ongoing claims over the youth league leader’s R16 million Sandton mansion.

In an interview on the UK’s Channel 4 documentary Unreported World last night, Manuel acknowledged “high level†corruption among senior officials and that conviction rates were too low.

Respected journalist Krishnan Guru-Murthy is told to “mind your business†by Malema after he challenged the youth leader over the funding of his Sandton house.

Guru-Murthy asked: “People in the townships, they say how is Mr Malema getting a new expensive mansion when I’ve been waiting decades?â€

http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/malema-s-mansion-woes-1.1153021

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Is the South African military not strong enough to contain something like this?

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Is the South African military not strong enough to contain something like this?

Government profits from crises.

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It's infighting between the senior politicians in the ANC. The police and the army do not dare get involved as they can't tell who will be the next leader. The police are now very corrupt and are frequently found to be involved in crime. A police commissioner was recently dismissed and prosecuted.

Julius Malema wants the mines nationalised so when he becomes leader he can add them to his kleptocracy. It's a very sad situation, I don't think Malema can be kept out of power now. He is working closely with Mugabe and Zanu-PF and is a racist Marxist who will blame all the corruption and mismanagement on the Whites and Indians. His other main policy is to take all white owned land and businesses without compensation.

Something you might find interesting and I only found out about recently:

500,000 whites now live below the poverty line ~ 10-15% of the white population are homeless and rely on handouts. They cannot get jobs and white owned businesses are effectively barred from public contracts due to Black Economic Empowerment legislation. White people are not entitled to to most social services and benefits.The Economist magazine say the laws make a farce of equality and stifle economic development.

About 4 million Blacks also suffer the same levels of poverty and rely on handouts. They are increasingly frustrated because all the things they were promised have not been delivered and the national finances are very confused due to corruption. The only way to obtain the housing and benefits they are entitled to, is to bribe local politicians. They can't get jobs because they were denied higher education under Apartheid and that was exacerbated by ANC education boycotts. The education schemes that were promised have not materialised.

Businesses in SA cannot recruit because of racial quotas in the work place. There are not enough educated blacks and white males are barred from employment if there are already too many in the company.

The NIA (National Intelligence Agency) are trying to combat Juilius Malema as no one can work out where all the money is coming from to fund all the logistics behind his campaign. He has also threatened the NIA recently.

Tenderpreneur is a local term that has been created to refer to individuals who enrich themselves through government tender contracts, mostly based on personal connections and corrupt relationships - although outright bribery might also take place - and sometimes involving an elected or politically-appointed official (or his or her family members) holding simultaneous business interests. This is often accompanied by overcharging and shoddy workmanship. South Africa's poor live in shacks while the political elite pay themselves movie star salaries. When people enquire about Malema's sudden enormous wealth they are told to "mind their own business". He is currently building a R16million mansion.

President Jacob Zuma is the 11th highest paid politician in the world at US$272,280 (Basic salary without benefits).

He is paid more than the presidents/prime ministers of the UK, south Korea, Indonesia,Israel and Russia. On a scale that compares salary ratio with GDP per person, SA ranks 4th.

The new South Africa - convergence of equality:

Food handouts in black squatter camp:

Food handouts in white squatter camp:

1 shack per family:

Maybe efforts can be made to get blacks and whites to live in the same squatter camps as the above almost looks like squatter camp apartheid?

Edited October 28, 2011 by PELHAM

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Pretty sad, looks like the people saying SA would go the way of Zimbabwe were right :(

Africa consistently fails. Glad I got out...

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Despite last months violent protests where Youth league members threw rocks, bottles and bricks at journalists and police, and burnt ANC flags and T-shirts with pictures of President Jacob Zuma printed on them.

This ANCYL march was conducted without violence for a change. The 80km march followed a route from Johannesburg to Pretoria. There were no arrests and 2 people were treated for exhaustion.

Over the two days, the marchers handed over memorandums to the Chamber of Mines in the Johannesburg CBD, the Johannesburg Stock Exchange in Sandton, and to the government at the Union Buildings.

Newly-appointed Public Works Minister Thulas Nxesi accepted the document handed over in Pretoria and promised to take it to the “relevant structures†of government for a response in due course.

Some sang “Kgalema's my presidentâ€, referring to Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe.

Placards carried read: “Black on black apartheidâ€, “greed-based corruption†and “yes we don't want Zuma and Gwedeâ€, referring to President Jacob Zuma and ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe.

but..........

Among the league's demands to government, was a call to amend section 25 of the Constitution which protects private property against arbitrary expropriation and allows for compensation.

The league's memorandum said all productive land should be nationalised and leased.

Labour brokers must be banned and all vacant government posts be filled.

A state bank must be established and foreign policy must be changed to isolate countries that threaten South Africa's sovereignty.

A fund must be established to send 10,000 students to the best universities.

Looks like Malema is a fan of Maoist style Cultutral Revolution policies lol.

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Looks like Malema is a fan of Maoist style Cultutral Revolution policies lol.

We all know how well that turned out!

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We all know how well that turned out!

Lol it turned out OK for Mugabe and Madame Mao. That's what Julius knows.

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People who choose to live in Africa should get their head checked.

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People who choose to live in Africa should get their head checked.

It's not such a bad place. I have lived there and travelled there many times and you meet some very nice people. The problem is greed and corruption and the mismanagement of aid programs that simply create more problems. It's a mess at the moment and it's only going to get worse.

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I though South Africa is an equivalent of an ok European county.

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People who choose to live in Africa should get their head checked.

Parts of SA are nice to live in. As long as you don't pay much attention to what is going on in the background...

Can't really complain about my life there. But I wont hang around and wait for something to happen, constantly having to worry about crime and other bulls**t just isn't worth it.

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It's not such a bad place. I have lived there and travelled there many times and you meet some very nice people. The problem is greed and corruption and the mismanagement of aid programs that simply create more problems. It's a mess at the moment and it's only going to get worse.

You forgot rape, cannibalism, slavery, ritual sacrifice, tribal warfare etc... Living in an area with 30 foot fences and armed guard is just denial of the reality. The same can be said for Haiti, Jamaica... Ohhh it's so wonderful, so rich with culture and colorful costumes. until you tell them to leave the resort/gated commumity la la land they're living in. Wipes the smile right off their face.

Edited October 30, 2011 by jblackrupert

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You forgot rape, cannibalism, slavery, ritual sacrifice, tribal warfare etc... Living in an area with 30 foot fences and armed guard is just denial of the reality. The same can be said for Haiti, Jamaica... Ohhh it's so wonderful, so rich with culture and colorful costumes. until you tell them to leave the resort/gated commumity la la land they're living in. Wipes the smile right off their face.

While much of the above is true it mostly occurs in and around cities and squatter camps. If you go to more rural areas people are very polite and welcoming and in southern Africa I have never seen armed guards at houses or hotels or 30ft fences.

These days it's not relaxing and constantly looking over your shoulder for trouble, real or imagined is draining. On my last 2 out of 3 trips to SA I was followed from the airport (DBN and JHB) by cars full of men looking to carjack me as soon as I stopped. 1st time I ended up circling the block 5 times before they gave up and stopped following. In Durban I was followed for 60 miles down the freeway. I managed to put some space between them and me at a busy junction and got through the motorised gate at the house where I was staying. The same car pulled up outside just as I got into the house and closed the door - that happened at night so was extra creepy.

Once I got out of the cities it was ok and I had no problems in sleepy seaside towns, national parks or game reserves. It's not like Europe though, I would not use public transport, walk on the roads between towns, wander around after dark or stop the car at the side of the road in isolated places. Having a policeman demand a bribe in exchange for not detaining me for a small traffic offence was a new experience! I was told by a giggling resort manager that handing money to policemen was 'part of normal life now'.

It's sad to see how things have deteriorated.

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I though South Africa is an equivalent of an ok European county.

Some areas are not that bad, as a whole I would say no.

Edited October 31, 2011 by PELHAM

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If you go to more rural areas people are very polite and welcoming

Because most of them see you as a walking ATM and possible greencard for their daughter.

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On my last 2 out of 3 trips to SA I was followed from the airport (DBN and JHB) by cars full of men looking to carjack me as soon as I stopped.

Must have been tipped off about a rich foreigner. I lived in Durban most of my life, that never happened to me...

Maybe it's the way I drive, they can't keep up :p

You get into a habit of taking certain precautions when you live there. Not walking around at night, never flashing fancy cellphones or jewellery, not hanging around your car in public for long (hijacking), making sure you are locked in the car when going through town...

Have friends and family who have been robbed at gunpoint and even shot. I've been lucky.

I though South Africa is an equivalent of an ok European county.

That's the image they try to project to the rest of the world. It's bulls**t :)

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Because most of them see you as a walking ATM and possible greencard for their daughter.

Perhaps you ought to consider simply not posting on the off topic forum, where each post reveals more of your distasteful personality.

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Perhaps you ought to consider simply not posting on the off topic forum, where each post reveals more of your distasteful personality.

Perhaps this might help: http://forums.bistudio.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist

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Well it wasn't really for my benefit :) and I assume you post generally good stuff in the other forums. 'Twas just a suggestion.

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Must have been tipped off about a rich foreigner. I lived in Durban most of my life, that never happened to me...

Maybe it's the way I drive, they can't keep up :p

My thoughts too - can't work out if it's the people in customs, the guys hanging around the arrivals hall that look you over very closely or the smiling ladies at the car hire desk.

It's a shame - I have friends and family who emigrated out there 10 years ago. I don't feel safe going to see them and probably will not visit SA again.

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Jobs must be paying a pretty penny if you choose to move there.

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Jobs must be paying a pretty penny if you choose to move there.

The people I know retired there as at the time things looked promising and it has great golf courses and you can play year round in the sub tropical climate. You will find very few who went there to work because it isn't usually possible unless you set up your own business.

Edited November 1, 2011 by PELHAM

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I'd prefer a ghetto in Florida.

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Malema investigated for corruption

South Africa's new Directorate for Priority Crime Investigation, dubbed the Hawks, are investigating Julius Malema for corruption, money laundering and fraud related to government tenders in Limpopo.

Julius Malema feels his human rights are being undermined by media leaks from the police, SABC news reported on Tuesday. The broadcaster said Malema was considering approaching the public protector and the Human Rights Commission over the matter.

Famous video of Malema threatening a BBC journalist.

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100s invade land in Eastern Cape

Hundreds of people have invaded land belonging to the Uniting Reformed Church outside Mthatha in the Eastern Cape, SABC news reported on Tuesday.

Church representatives said the invaders formed a committee which had divided the 57ha of land and were selling it for R7 000 per site, the broadcaster said.

The church has already applied for an eviction order which was served on some of the invaders last Friday. Some people still remained on the land by Tuesday, erecting buildings on the plots.

SA Parliament reviews secret 'censorship' order to prevent journalists interviewing officials without permission.

A previously unkown "Policy on Media Relations Management", signed in 2009, which directs journalists to request interviews with anyone in Parliament through Parliament's media office was put under review.

After an interview with an unnamed ANC parliamentary official, Independent Newspapers journalist Deon de Lange's parliamentary media accreditation was threatened with suspension. According to reports, secretary to Parliament Zingile Dingani wrote to the Independent Group editors asking why he should not withdraw De Lange's accreditation. ANC chief whip Mathole Motshekga reportedly also threatened to crack down on De Lange's source and ordered an investigation.

It was "beyond absurd" to control who journalists spoke to in Parliament through an "unearthed" set of rules, the Parliamentary Press Gallery Association said on Tuesday. Sanef spokesperson Raymond Louw said the policy was signed at roughly the time the PGA was moved out of the Parliament building to another building in the precinct. At the time, it was seen as an attempt to prevent ready access by reporters to members of Parliament. The policy seemed to have a similar motive - to prevent reporters from having open contact with MPs, Louw said. "The intention of removing Deon de Lange's accreditation is a form of censorship," said Louw.

ANC-YL members storm private land

A group of people has invaded private land in Hilton outside Pietermaritzburg, claiming it belongs to ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, according to a report on Monday. Land owner Rusty Roodt told The Witness newspaper he would approach the high court in Pietermaritzburg on Monday to obtain a court order to stop people from invading his property. He said the police had done nothing to stop the land invasion at Winterskloof in Hilton.

One of the land invaders reportedly said: "We are continuing what we started when we marched on Thursday and Friday to reclaim what is ours," in reference to an economic freedom march from Johannesburg to Pretoria led by Malema.

2 weeks previously, Malema told people in Thembelihle in Lenasia, south of Johannesburg, last week to forcefully occupy land.

Edited November 3, 2011 by PELHAM