Maxed out CPU temp?

[-----jayjayc----- 0]

I have a toshiba x300 running a core2duo x9100, 9800m gtx - run at 1680x1050 on normal and low settings (vista 32bit) - since OA 1.59 i've been getting slowdown after about 15-30mins gameplay both in sp and online- alt-tabbing out and back in would often improve things temporarily but the problem persists.

anyway - thought i'd try to understand what was going on started monitoring some temps. GPU was my first suspect - that's fine - but seems that the issue is with the CPU - temps steadily increase before maxing out at 105C! (no crash though - CPU limit seems to kick in hence the slowdown)

monitoring other games my normal temps are 48C idle to max 90C loaded, quite high at the top end but within safe limits - fans working ok etc...

my CPU hits unsafe temps when running A2 OA... anyone with similar issues or suggestions as to a fix? (varying exthreads= has had no positive effect)...

Edited September 21, 2011 by -----jayjayc-----

[gossamersolid 155]

90C for a processor is not a safe temperature. The highest I'd ever let a processor go is 70C (and that's still high).

It seems like either a fan of yours is failing or there is a great dust buildup in your laptop. Attempt to clean this out.

[PuFu 4600]

As previously said before, laptops are not really for gaming. My suggestion:

1. clean up your laptop - compresed air right into the fan socket does wonders. If not, take it for cleaning (i wouldn't advise opening it up unless you are outside warranty and know what you are doing), fan replacing.

2. get a cooling pad

Nothing more than that you can do. A2/OA is a lot more CPU intensive than your average game. Besides, toshiba are known for poor air flow. 50 idle is not really healthy, neither is 90 under load.

[[frl]myke 14]

Wow, i already get paranoid when my CPU goes beyond 50C under load. As already suggested, clean the air channels in your Laptop from dust as i guess this is the main cause of the overheating. 90C isn't a safe temp, forget about 105C.

Don't mistake safe GPU temps for safe CPU temps. While 90C on a GPU is quite usual and safe, for a CPU it is already way too high.

[halface 0]

Clean the fan as others says my cpu is rary ovewr 40C then again i use a H70

my gpu 590gtx get rarly over 75C on one vore other stays around 50....clear dust

[CameronMcDonald 146]

My entire system is usually 36 degrees... watercooling on one loop. :)

[dm 9]

90C for a processor is not a safe temperature. The highest I'd ever let a processor go is 70C (and that's still high).

Pfffff newfag...

I remember the good old days of my P4 running at 90 - 110C under load :p

But yes, it would seem that the OPs laptop requires a good clean and one of those cooling stand thingers.

[CameronMcDonald 146]

Hah, my old P4 used to keep the entire top level of my house warm in winter.

...in summer though. :(

[fabrizio_t 58]

I have a toshiba x300 running a core2duo x9100, 9800m gtx - run at 1680x1050 on normal and low settings (vista 32bit) - since OA 1.59 i've been getting slowdown after about 15-30mins gameplay both in sp and online- alt-tabbing out and back in would often improve things temporarily but the problem persists.

anyway - thought i'd try to understand what was going on started monitoring some temps. GPU was my first suspect - that's fine - but seems that the issue is with the CPU - temps steadily increase before maxing out at 105C! (no crash though - CPU limit seems to kick in hence the slowdown)

monitoring other games my normal temps are 48C idle to max 90C loaded, quite high at the top end but within safe limits - fans working ok etc...

A2 OA seems to take my CPU up to unsafe temps... anyone with similar issues or suggestions as to a fix? (varying exthreads= has had no positive effect)...

105 °C is the max allowed die temperature, are you sure about the reading?

If reading is right then some serious cleaning is needed.

Check the fans too.

Personally i had overheating issues with ArmA2. GPU was the problem, triggering system slowdown when going past 80°C (Nvidia Quadro 3700M, which was almost the same as your 9800m gtx).

As previously said before, laptops are not really for gaming

Not entirely true, sorry.

Many high end notebooks can handle ArmA2 quite fine (as well as other games), it really depends on how much detail you need to be comfortable with the game.

Just playing Arma 2 1920x1080, 3000 view distance with acceptable FPS (15-25 in average).

Same machine handles Mass Effect 2 and Deus Ex HR at stable 60fps, max settings.

Hi spec notebooks are not on par with desktop PCs, but that does not mean they're not suitable for gaming.

The main problem there is they're very expensive, so not much bang-for-buck.

Edited September 21, 2011 by fabrizio_T

[-----jayjayc----- 0]

thanks for advice/comments

yes - a good clean and a cooler are on the agenda! - failing that it's toshiba support

in terms of the temps i'm getting the same readings from a number of utilities (throttlestop, cpu-z and speedfan) so unless the sensor(s) shot i guess they're accurate

and yes intels spec for the x9100 states a max operating temp of 105C - there's quite a few threads on notebookreview etc concerning x300 temps where temps in the range I'm talking about are considered high but ok - 90 being the absolute max (the model appears to have a pretty poor cooling design so high temps seem to be common) - games other than arma 2 hit high 80s-90C very rarely - arma 2 just seems exceptional in terms of the CPUs response which almost flies off the chart... as per your comments though probably an issue with my machine...

[maturin 12]

I just bought a $40 cooling pad for $7. I can't empirically measure any change in temperatures.

In-game, it gets me an extra 5-8 fps in the (short) benchmark mission, but doesn't stop the throttling from overheating in an any meaningful way once I load up a real mission.

[Bee8190 10]

Myke;2025301']Wow' date=' i already get paranoid when my CPU goes beyond 50C under load[/quote']

No need to worry there sir, my vapor X gpu never goes above 59C and its safe to say its still running pretty cool...

Some Nvidia cards just start to ''heat up'' at 60C :) so unless over 75-80 ish, it should be all safe :)

Oh and the TEMP reads aren't really always dead accurate and may differ easily by +/- 5C.

Edited September 21, 2011 by Bee8190

[grillob3 11]

I was working on my pc and had an old one open than i drop a wire on the cpu fan making it stop...i did not notice that util i saw lots of smoke coming from the cpu! was an old amd fx57! so i was like: i guess i just burned a cpu!lol i turned off the pc wait like 30 minutes and turned back on and boom! win xp was working just as before!!!no glitch just nothing wrong!!! was funny!

[Bee8190 10]

I was working on my pc and had an old one open than i drop a wire on the cpu fan making it stop...i did not notice that util i saw lots of smoke coming from the cpu! was an old amd fx57! so i was like: i guess i just burned a cpu!lol i turned off the pc wait like 30 minutes and turned back on and boom! win xp was working just as before!!!no glitch just nothing wrong!!! was funny!

Haha, yeah I've seen something like that before and the best part indeed was the rig was apparently fine afterwards :confused: :p

(Although I suppose just becouse its still in working order it's not really fine :P)

Anyways, for my post above, I failed (:j:) to add that every CPU has different max (safe) operational temps but in general its not recommended to go past 75°C ish on most CPU's.

( reduced life span [from~20years to ~ 12 :j: ], random restart, unstability, random BSOD... )

I should therefore stress out that it's quite important to clean your rig from dust&shit from time to time and least but certainly not last make sure the thermal paste is applied properly...

Alright, nothing really new written here but i hope some might find it usefull :)