Stronger TOW for statics

[jgbtl292 0]

maby you can made the tow for the staticlaunchers stronger.

we need 2-3 tow for kill a t-90 this is too much.

and the old statics from arma2 have a big problem.

the have no optics tow/metis

[CarlGustaffa 4]

Why use A2 versions of these statics when OA versions are improved (I assume)?

[jgbtl292 0]

on chernarus is a little crab to drive in warfare with ja yellow rep truck ;)

and with the ao tow launcher its the same- you need 3 tow for an t90 - and you have 5 rockets on louncher

[wld427 1705]

a TOW-IIB would easily destroy a T-90 with one shot.

I guess the root of the problem is for the tow to do that it needs a roof shot.

thats not how the tow is set up in arma.

i was 11H in US army service. We trained for years for this.

[max power 21]

The TOW-2A penetrates 1000mm of RHA after ERA. The T-90 has something like 600mm of armour on the front plus 750mm equivalent from Kontakt-5 (or so, according to wikipedia). It seems like any recent TOW could defeat a T-90 based on those numbers.

[NoRailgunner 0]

TOWs are not Javelins and the modernized T90's use additional Active Protection Systems. Depending on where you hit a MBT you can achieve a mobility kill (M-kill), a firepower kill (F-kill) or a catastrophic kill (K-kill). There is no rule that anytime you hit a tank it will explode with some huge and great special effects. Judging armor and weapon systems only by numbers seems to be is very naive/childish.

[max power 21]

TOWs are not Javelins and the modernized T90's use additional Active Protection Systems. Depending on where you hit a MBT you can achieve a mobility kill (M-kill), a firepower kill (F-kill) or a catastrophic kill (K-kill). There is no rule that anytime you hit a tank it will explode with some huge and great special effects. Judging armor and weapon systems only by numbers seems to be is very naive/childish.

Thanks for the pro tip, NoRailgunner, but where did you read anywhere anyone saying something about exploding tanks or fireballs?

And I'm not sure what you mean by 'TOWs are not Javelins'. I can only assume you mean something about a top attack profile. The TOW-2b has a downward facing warhead and achieves similar results.

Edited November 30, 2010 by Max Power

[maturin 12]

The TOW-2A penetrates 1000mm of RHA after ERA. The T-90 has something like 600mm of armour on the front plus 750mm equivalent from Kontakt-5 (or so, according to wikipedia). It seems like any recent TOW could defeat a T-90 based on those numbers.

Those numbers are bollocks. 600mm is like what the Abrams has on its side skirt, and the armor data is classified anyway. Maybe 600mm is the physical thickness, rather than the RHA equivalency.

The frontal turret of the old T-80 has a rating of 800-1320 mm vs HEAT.

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

At the moment, the most modern tanks have sufficient frontal armor to defeat pretty much every shaped charge weapon in existence, if you trust the estimates, and it's unreasonable to suppose that nations overrate their tank armor while reporting honestly on their AT weapons.

Of course, HEAT is similar to certain diseases in that damage can occur without full penetration.

[max power 21]

The frontal turret of the old T-80 has a rating of 800-1320 mm vs HEAT.

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

Those are the same numbers on the wikipedia site for the T90. 650 + 700 = 1350 vs. HEAT.

[maturin 12]

Those are the same numbers on the wikipedia site for the T90. 650 + 700 = 1350 vs. HEAT.

I misread your first post.

And weird. Seems like the numbers should be better for the newer tank, and I noticed that Wiki data sourced to a page that also referenced the site I linked.

But how would a missile rated for 1000mm penetrate 1350mm 'based on those numbers?'

ERA is primarily designed to combat HEAT, although Kontakt-5 is supposed to be able to break penetrating rods as well.

[HyperU2 11]

I just shot up a bunch of T90's with a static TOW, the crews bailed after one missile every time. :confused:

[max power 21]

I misread your first post.

And weird. Seems like the numbers should be better for the newer tank, and I noticed that Wiki data sourced to a page that also referenced the site I linked.

But how would a missile rated for 1000mm penetrate 1350mm 'based on those numbers?'

ERA is primarily designed to combat HEAT, although Kontakt-5 is supposed to be able to break penetrating rods as well.

Because the TOW-2A and 2B have tandem warheads. The 2A penetrates 1000mm of armour after the ERA is already dealt with.

Edited November 30, 2010 by Max Power

[CarlGustaffa 4]

@HyperU2:

Unfortunately, for some, only catastrophic kills counts as kills.

[jgbtl292 0]

TOWs are not Javelins and the modernized T90's use additional Active Protection Systems. Depending on where you hit a MBT you can achieve a mobility kill (M-kill), a firepower kill (F-kill) or a catastrophic kill (K-kill). There is no rule that anytime you hit a tank it will explode with some huge and great special effects. Judging armor and weapon systems only by numbers seems to be is very naive/childish.

douple omg

the t90 has no a arena oder worket shitora in arma - the t90 has no worket era armour in arma.

and when i kill with an tow an old russian tank turred from the top - then is he down - that the point.

when i fly my rocket in side or front off hull then is he down.

and i need not 3 rockets.............

this a game- no discussion on matters which are not shown in game