Please make the weapon handling more like VBS2/JCOVE

[Mr Butlertron 10]

I played VBS2 when it was mistakenly released a while back and I suspected, I played JCOVE just now and it's confirmed.

I had more fun with JCOVE's 5 little missions than with Arma 1 & Arma 2 combined. The guns actually feel like guns. I even like the sounds better. I know it's probably down to you removing some stuff because VBS is meant to train things like battlefield awareness, not how to fire your weapon.

Truth be told I hated the change in weapon feel post-OFP. They don't feel anything like guns. I think you've overcomplicated the aiming system. It feels like trying to control a reanimated corpse. Certain physical rhythms and movements are maintained subconsciously by our body and just can't be replicated in a game so allowances have to be made. One of your staffers pointed out the exact same thing in the first Arma 2 tutorial, saying how the 3rd person camera shouldn't count as "cheating" because it's compensating for your total loss of peripheral vision, something that can't be replicated ingame. (I actually use 1st person exclusively but it was a good example).

Clunky != tactical.

and as an aside, have you considered rearranging the orders menu into the form of a numpad? Current system is passable, radial menu would be a failure (as OFP2 showed) but a numpad could be better as you have the shape replicated on your keyboard and people find it very easy to also navigate a numpad with the arrow keys. Disadvantage is that it takes up more of the screen.

[kylania 568]

A numpad solution would take your mouse cursor (and therefore your targeting reticule) away from your target over to where the numpad is, making you have to reacquire your target again. Not an ideal solution at all.

With the scroll wheel I can maintain contact on my target and issue commands at the same time. Even with the spacebar + key presses I can do the same thing. In the event that you allowed the actual keypad to control the numpad idea I'd than have to take my hands of either my mouse or my movement controls, both of which would be bad.

[JojoTheSlayer 35]

A) Commanding: Try my 800+ voice command profile for commanding troops. See sig link for vids, downL, etc.

B) Weapons: Get Track IR5 if you want realistic independent movement of head and gun.

I use both 3rd person and fps depending on what I play, but the most immersive is fps with Track IR5.

Competitive wise.

3rd person and then switching into iron sights is the best to get kills.

With Track IR in forced fps mode, example server Charlie Foxtrot, you have the advantage of scanning the surroundings when not shooting, but you have to be disciplined enough to not "micro move" your head when you are focusing. Like, I have been in the army and when I pull my weapon up ingame I noticed in the beginning with Track IR that I tended to lower my head a bit. As you would in real life, but not as much, but it was enough to give a slight adverse effect ingame. As in you saw less over the iron sights because you where looking slightly down.

Point is, if you want that level of immersion there are already options out there that you can use.

[Wolfstriked 11]

I finally downloaded the Lite version and find I do not like the sway.Its way too much but might feel real good if reduced.

[Kingsmurfy 10]

I finally downloaded the Lite version and find I do not like the sway.Its way too much but might feel real good if reduced.

Yeah, It takes a bit to get used to. I activated it in Arma 2 btw for me, not so extreme like you said and it's nice.

[CarlGustaffa 4]

@Wolfstriked: You just hold your breath for a steady aim. Don't expect to shoot good if you're "out of juice", especially from standing. Not sure how AI should have to be dealt with. Can't have the same "rules apply" as they don't know the concept of taking a rest when you need it.

[danny96 80]

where i can download JCOVE lite? I tried gamershell and it said virus, other links doesn't work

[NeMeSiS 11]

It feels like trying to control a reanimated corpse.

Are you suffering from mouselag?

[dm 9]

I played VBS2 when it was mistakenly released a while back

You did whatnow?

I assume you mean US Army Lite...

[dbrant 0]

where i can download JCOVE lite? I tried gamershell and it said virus, other links doesn't work

@danny96, You can download it from JCOVE Lite UK. Registration required.

I tried the fileplay link and it worked.

Edited September 3, 2010 by dbrant
checked the link