joltan 0 Posted April 16, 2002 Does OFP have real tides (rising and falling sealevel over the course of several hours) or just waves? It would be cool if the passage from one island to another (within the same map) was only possible during a few hours. Like in the North Sea where you can walk from island to island during some hours of the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted April 16, 2002 there are seasonal tides and hourly tides (at least on the new desert training island thing) so i would imagine there are on the other islands too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted April 16, 2002 Hmm interesting, haven't even thought about it, gotta test now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted April 16, 2002 Do you (anybody? BIS! ) know how much the sea level changes? Tide would make for some cool islands if taken into consideration! I guess I'll just have to grab part of one of the dems on my hd and start experimenting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 16, 2002 Yes, OFP sealevel varies I think... I have heard its rather much sometimes, though I havent tested it myself. Why not just test? Got to the area where you start the campaign, find the docks by the two buildings I think, check water level against the dock... (east of Houdan I think) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 There are tides...set a man standing by the sea one month preview and do the same another month...you will notice a difference...just don't drown... I noticed it at Meaux in Everon where a road goes into the sea in some months...but doesn't get wet in others. Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ April 16 2002,19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are tides...set a man standing by the sea one month preview and do the same another month...you will notice a difference...just don't drown... <span id='postcolor'> What about more short term changes (say within 12/24 hours)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted April 16, 2002 yes i believe so just change the clock from 12:00 to 00:00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (joltan @ April 16 2002,19:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (The Jub-Jub Bird @ April 16 2002,19:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are tides...set a man standing by the sea one month preview and do the same another month...you will notice a difference...just don't drown... <span id='postcolor'> What about more short term changes (say within 12/24 hours)?<span id='postcolor'> I think so...try for yourself using the same method...the editor allows it. Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ April 16 2002,20:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yes i believe so just change the clock from 12:00 to 00:00<span id='postcolor'> no...you get two tides a day...so at 00:00 and 12:00 the water level would be the same. You need to try say 00:00 and 06:00 to notice any difference...or if you like daylight try 12:00 and 18:00 Â Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted April 16, 2002 oh well, what i get for living in a big valley Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ April 16 2002,20:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">oh well, what i get for living in a big valley  <span id='postcolor'> ...are you Welsh...you poor bastard...dude I'm sorry Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted April 16, 2002 lol not exactly southern california Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted April 16, 2002 Well don't they make Welsh's Grape Juice there? /it's late - I'm sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 big valley...in California...Silicon Valley maybe? ...or perhaps Death Valley? ...or the Sacromento Valley...that's pretty damned big...but I wouldn't say that it is in South California. Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted April 16, 2002 Just trying to get the right tide times - tomorow I'll post some statistics an probably an aprox. cycle time and min/max values... Good night! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted April 16, 2002 san umm...how the hell do you spell it...no idea but it starts with a j. lived here all my life and still can't spell the thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (joltan @ April 16 2002,22:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just trying to get the right tide times - tomorow I'll post some statistics an probably an aprox. cycle time and min/max values... Good night!<span id='postcolor'> good night! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ April 16 2002,22:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">san umm...how the hell do you spell it...no idea but it starts with a j. Â lived here all my life and still can't spell the thing.<span id='postcolor'> San Joaquin Valley? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsthatyouJohnWayne 0 Posted April 16, 2002 Jub-Jub bird, are you some kind of world valley authority or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted April 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IsthatyouJohnWayne @ April 16 2002,22:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Jub-Jub bird, are you some kind of world valley authority or something  <span id='postcolor'> no...but they are pretty well known valleys...well not that well known...but I studied Geography as an A-level subject with the keenest teacher ever, plus I remember lots of useless crap like that...shame I can't remember what counts...like what time I have to get to work... Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hobo Sniper 0 Posted April 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ April 16 2002,22:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">san umm...how the hell do you spell it...no idea but it starts with a j. Â lived here all my life and still can't spell the thing.<span id='postcolor'> San Jose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joltan 0 Posted April 17, 2002 Ok, this evening I decided to have some fun and go experimenting. I put a M113 somewhere in the sea (hb66, Malden map) and measured it's elevation and the current time. This was done by a script, which repeated the measurement 50 times (one measurement every 5 seconds) and then advanced the clock an quarter of an hour, only to repeat the whole procedure. This was done for 12 hours. The effect of single waves was eliminiated by recording only the medium of each batch of 50 measurements. Day was May 10th, from 8.07 to 19.73. Results: max. difference of sealevel only 0.42m during that time, difference within one batch up to aprox. 0.2m. The resulting graph (sorry, no graphic server right now) indicates a slow rythm (aprox. 6-7h peak to peak) overlaid with a lot of short term oszilations (sp?). Maybe they simulate real tides (following a 27,32 day rythm with two tides a day). Would be a big effort for an infantry simulation, so I doubt it. Also I found the time between a maximum and a minimum to be more in the order of 3 hours, which would mean 4 tides a day. But then this little experiment has some flaws (no random sampling, big clusters, low temporal resolution, only a period of 12 hours covered), so I'd rather not trust my ass on it. If it were possible to log the measured values automatically into a file, a more precise and exhaustive evaluation would have been possible. BIS: any detailed infos on that? It would be cool to have a kind of tidal calendar for the isles, so we would know in advance at what time we could expect high or low water. Edit: Seems that I found a way to log the variables to an ascii file. If it works (textlog command), I'll improve the analysis... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
