Wee bit concerned - testing

[Zombie_Mod 0]

Look, I didnt mind testing Arma2 1.02, and reporting defects to dev-heaven.net, but now I find I'm getting asked to "re-test" bugs I reported. No slight on kju or whatever, but come on to f**k!!!! This is a JOKE!!!

Sorry BIS, but this is your test team's job!

Are you going to pay me for my time testing for you? I'm cheap - £40 an hour (my lowest rate for software dev on contract in Scotland)

I have the time to test, yeah, but why should I do it for you? Surely by reporting the bugs your testers should inputting them into your defect management system and be on the case, regression testing and checking they are fixed?

And before you fanboys start getting on my case, I'll tell you what, if you think I'm unreasonable you take on all of ZOMBIEMOD's issues on dev-heaven and retest for 1.03 and report back. Then you'll see the effort required. Not much fun is it?

Come on, put your money where your mouth is - test everything I reported. produce videos etc.

ffs BIS, do not take the p**s out of me, sort yourselves out.

Scott

Edit: I want to make explicitly clear i'm not trying to cause aggro - but I'm thinking if dev-heaven is the issue list and BIS are using that, why am I being re-assigned issues I have proven to exist? Why is it me, an unpaid person, who is getting assigned "re-test" ? There's love for a product then there is being taken for a f**king ride! OFP, yes (bows) - Arma2? You know my thoughts.

Edited August 18, 2009 by Zombie_Mod

[Bulldogs 10]

I think they were just hoping for your help due to the fact that they haven't been able to replicate many issues that people are having (Mouse lag being one that I know they haven't been able to replicate)

Not trying to attack you but if you don't want to re-test it yourself, just say no.

[Zombie_Mod 0]

I think they were just hoping for your help due to the fact that they haven't been able to replicate many issues that people are having (Mouse lag being one that I know they haven't been able to replicate)

Not trying to attack you but if you don't want to re-test it yourself, just say no.

Its no attack bulldogs, I hear you.

I'm not trying to be a f.anny - despite the fact I think Arma2 is a breakfast I am trying to help out - but surely once evidence of the original defect is given their test team have enough to replicate it and fix it??

Why do I have replicate it again? I have uploaded video evidence once, come on BIS, get your testers on the case!!

Just seeing all these "can you retest" questions in my email inbox, I'm thinking, "wait a mo, what are BIS doing here?"

Like I said this is no dig against Kju or Guba etc!! I am a paying customer! BIs, you're asking me to test and re-test your broken software!!

[dmarkwick 261]

Well, I reckon that bugs should remain bugs until specifically targeted by developer action. If the bug hasn't made it into the dev notes for that release - it's still a bug. That's how I would understand development to work. Otherwise you're endlessly confirming the same thing.

[InFireBaptize 0]

don't test, bugs will be fixed. Download user missions, they're bug free and fun to play, use the mission editor, single missions. The bugs are no new news to us, the game will be fixed. I have bought many games in the past and simply stored them and never touched them again. Anyone who played arma and love this game, knows that it will be fixed and have the patience.

[Oh_Heck 10]

You can only exercise so much patients when you spend money on a product like this. Not only was it released with bugs, they only managed to introduce new ones with each patch.

Also there is the damage caused just by word of mouth, regarding the condition of the game in its current state.

I get the same feeling I did when I started playing WWII Online. Similar release, loaded with bugs, that took so long to address that the damage to consumer confidence in their product killed their player population, and any interest from potential buyers.

The fact that they are asking him to test stuff he's already done, and supplied video evidence of tells me they might be a bit disorganized. Which means these issues will take a whole LOT of patients on our parts, while we look at servers with deplorable player counts.

[Placebo 29]

You should take up the issue on dev-heaven.net