What is "material penetration"?

[Beltfed 0]

Does that mean we have real armor now on our tanks? Or is it still possible to kill a M1A2 with mgs like in arma 1?

[happygharry 10]

i think it means that you can shoot through small walls or other objects just what i fought

[dmarkwick 261]

More to do with fences, walls, foliage etc.

[Mc Speedfreak 10]

you cn shoot through wooden fences for example...

yes... if you have the time to fire 4000 or so bullets at a tank it will be destroyed... not realistic , fair enough, but unlikely to affect gameplay as the tank is more likely to blow you to kingdom come after about 10 rounds :)

[Beltfed 0]

Ah ok, that is cool. I would love some realistic penetration physics on anything armored though.

[dmarkwick 261]

A decent hit system is really needed in ArmA.

[Beltfed 0]

Yep, I would say that is the biggest flaw.

[Providence 10]

A decent hit system is really needed in ArmA.

True, also checking the aim of the AI. Apperantly they sniped me from 500+ meters with an AK while I was prone and behind a cascade of trees.

[abs 2]

Do you guys know of a game where there is realistic armour penetration?

Abs

[7 0]

Do you guys know of a game where there is realistic armour penetration?

Abs

SteelBeasts. And some kind of sci-fi tank battle game, forgot what it's called.

[Tennouheika 10]

Do you guys know of a game where there is realistic armour penetration?

Abs

Well in the Battlefield games you couldn't scratch a tank with a machine gun or rifle or whatever. Always needed larger weapons/cannons/explosives.

[An Fiach 10]

Do you guys know of a game where there is realistic armour penetration?

Abs

Battleground Europe.

[akd42 10]

Red Orchestra and Red Orchestra: Darkest Hour have a hybrid system. Shots can deflect, but a certain number of penetrating shots will always destroy a tank. Plenty of sims have armor penetration, even flight sims like the Il-2: Sturmovik series. Steel Fury: Kharkov 42 has perhaps the most detailed penetration system I've seen, maybe surpassing Battleground Europe. Although a RTS/wargame, Combat Mission: Shock Force has very detailed penetration modelling, even for complex stuff like reactive armor and tandem HEAT warheads. Another RTS, Men of War, has pretty detailed system as well, although the scale has been messed with. In none of these games can you destroy a tank by shooting it enough times with a machine gun.

Funny thing is, I'm hearing OFP2 may have turned away from the hitpoints system for armor, so that should be interesting.

[An Fiach 10]

Red Orchestra and Red Orchestra: Darkest Hour have a hybrid system. Shots can deflect, but a certain number of penetrating shots will always destroy a tank. Plenty of sims have armor penetration, even flight sims like the Il-2: Sturmovik series. Steel Fury: Kharkov 42 has perhaps the most detailed penetration system I've seen, maybe surpassing Battleground Europe. Although a RTS/wargame, Combat Mission: Shock Force has very detailed penetration modelling, even for complex stuff like reactive armor and tandem HEAT warheads. Another RTS, Men of War, has pretty detailed system as well, although the scale has been messed with. In none of these games can you destroy a tank by shooting it enough times with a machine gun.

Funny thing is, I'm hearing OFP2 may have turned away from the hitpoints system for armor, so that should be interesting.

Documentation anywhere on Steel Fury Ballistics models? I can't find any, just the claims made on the box being repeated in reviews.

[frederf 0]

Does material penetration for rounds also apply to living/dead bodies or are they impenetrable barriers like in ArmA1?

[mr.g-c 6]

We need this desperately for Arma2:

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However BIS sees no "need" for equipping a game called "Simulation" with some realism in this aspect, so don't hope for anything. :rolleyes::(