Will my PC Run this? What CPU/GPU to get? What settings? System Specifications.

[Nicholas 5]

Get's sluggish after a while? The game will still get sluggish after a while. I'd say invest in some more RAM.

[Leon86 13]

I dont often play warfare, but an i5-2500 will probably get you twice the performance in cpu limited situations.

[Nicholas 5]

Oh, he will definitively get better overall performance, but it will still get "sluggish" after some time.

Try watching a couple of very large video files in succession. Such as recording FRAPS videos at full resolution and highest frames per second then watching them. They will start to get sluggish, restarting your PC should help this issue because it has to do with the RAM. When you restart your PC or turn it off, the RAM is cleared.

[aussieterry84 10]

I have 4 gig of fast ddr2 RAM so i dunno, its once the Warfare game has created an insane amount of units that it starts to go poopy.

Im thinking my e8500 just can't handle the unit size.

[todayskiller 10]

Well, I'm back :)...(Still haven't decided on the 2GB card or the 1GB with higher core clock/shader/etc...LOL) :)

I just remembered about the PSU lol :/

Will this be able to run an Nvidia 560 TI? Idk how to read these things very well...

I'll just write what is on the box :D

ATX12V V2.2 EPS 12V V2.91

Four +12V output rails

80% high efficiency performance

Input Voltage: 100V-240V~, 60-50Hz, 8A

Output Voltage: +12V1DC, + 12V2DC, +12V3DC, +5VDC, +3.3VDC, -12VDC, +5Vsb

Max Load: 18, 18, 16, 28, 30, 0.8, 3

Min Load: 1, 1, 1, 2, 0.5, 0, 0

Ripple: 120mV, 120mV, 120mV, 120mV, 50mV, 50mV, 120mV, 50mV

Anyone psu smart? and can help me out with this problem also? :)

[pendragonuk 0]

Well, I'm back :)...(Still haven't decided on the 2GB card or the 1GB with higher core clock/shader/etc...LOL) :)

I just remembered about the PSU lol :/

Will this be able to run an Nvidia 560 TI? Idk how to read these things very well...

I'll just write what is on the box :D

ATX12V V2.2 EPS 12V V2.91

Four +12V output rails

80% high efficiency performance

Input Voltage: 100V-240V~, 60-50Hz, 8A

Output Voltage: +12V1DC, + 12V2DC, +12V3DC, +5VDC, +3.3VDC, -12VDC, +5Vsb

Max Load: 18, 18, 16, 28, 30, 0.8, 3

Min Load: 1, 1, 1, 2, 0.5, 0, 0

Ripple: 120mV, 120mV, 120mV, 120mV, 50mV, 50mV, 120mV, 50mV

Anyone psu smart? and can help me out with this problem also? :)

Make and model??? Far more important to tracking it down and getting the right info about the PSU

As for the G/Card, once you card is powerful enough to render what is on the screen memory becomes more important. So I would go for the 2Gb card because it is already powerful enough. The 2Gb of ram will give you a greater benefit than a few extra run cycles.

[todayskiller 10]

Make and model??? Far more important to tracking it down and getting the right info about the PSU

As for the G/Card, once you card is powerful enough to render what is on the screen memory becomes more important. So I would go for the 2Gb card because it is already powerful enough. The 2Gb of ram will give you a greater benefit than a few extra run cycles.

RocketFish... RF-700WPS2

and do you care to elaborate on why the 2 GB would be the better option? I've been told on other forums (red orchestra 2) that 2 G.B. cards would only really benefit if I had 2+ monitors, or if I planned on running higher than 1920 x 1080 Resolution (which, my current monitor can't do, unless that's because of my 9800 GT not allowing it...So, if that's true what they said, I should go with the 1 G.B)?

And, I notice newer games (like RO2, Stronghold 3, etc) their system requirements are only a 512mb graphics card, so...will I be better going for the 2 GB card then? or are game making companies not likely going past 1 GB for a long time?

Edited August 2, 2011 by todayskiller

[bangtail 0]

RocketFish... RF-700WPS2

and do you care to elaborate on why the 2 GB would be the better option? I've been told on other forums (red orchestra 2) that 2 G.B. cards would only really benefit if I had 2+ monitors, or if I planned on running higher than 1920 x 1080 Resolution (which, my current monitor can't do, unless that's because of my 9800 GT not allowing it...So, if that's true what they said, I should go with the 1 G.B)?

And, I notice newer games (like RO2, Stronghold 3, etc) their system requirements are only a 512mb graphics card, so...will I be better going for the 2 GB card then? or are game making companies not likely going past 1 GB for a long time?

I was going over 1.5GB @ 1080P, those people are probably not aquainted with ArmA 2.

At 2560 x 1600 ArmA 2 uses 2.7GB in some cases so the 2GB is definitely the way to go.

[Leon86 13]

Well, I'm back :)...(Still haven't decided on the 2GB card or the 1GB with higher core clock/shader/etc...LOL) :)

I just remembered about the PSU lol :/

Will this be able to run an Nvidia 560 TI? Idk how to read these things very well...

I'll just write what is on the box :D

ATX12V V2.2 EPS 12V V2.91

Four +12V output rails

80% high efficiency performance

Input Voltage: 100V-240V~, 60-50Hz, 8A

Output Voltage: +12V1DC, + 12V2DC, +12V3DC, +5VDC, +3.3VDC, -12VDC, +5Vsb

Max Load: 18, 18, 16, 28, 30, 0.8, 3

Min Load: 1, 1, 1, 2, 0.5, 0, 0

Ripple: 120mV, 120mV, 120mV, 120mV, 50mV, 50mV, 120mV, 50mV

Anyone psu smart? and can help me out with this problem also? :)

should be enough, the psu probably has 2 gpu power plugs (6 pin). If it doesnt you'll have to make sure you dont connect everything to the same 12V group.

---------- Post added at 10:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 AM ----------

RocketFish... RF-700WPS2

and do you care to elaborate on why the 2 GB would be the better option? I've been told on other forums (red orchestra 2) that 2 G.B. cards would only really benefit if I had 2+ monitors, or if I planned on running higher than 1920 x 1080 Resolution (which, my current monitor can't do, unless that's because of my 9800 GT not allowing it...So, if that's true what they said, I should go with the 1 G.B)?

And, I notice newer games (like RO2, Stronghold 3, etc) their system requirements are only a 512mb graphics card, so...will I be better going for the 2 GB card then? or are game making companies not likely going past 1 GB for a long time?

It depends on settings, if games have highres textures and you run them with lots of antialiasing gpu memory use goes up rapidly.

another thing to keep in mind is modern browsers are gpu accelerated as well and each tab you leave open eats up gpu memory. So if you like to keep your browser open while gaming get a 2GB card for sure.

[pendragonuk 0]

RocketFish... RF-700WPS2

and do you care to elaborate on why the 2 GB would be the better option? I've been told on other forums (red orchestra 2) that 2 G.B. cards would only really benefit if I had 2+ monitors, or if I planned on running higher than 1920 x 1080 Resolution (which, my current monitor can't do, unless that's because of my 9800 GT not allowing it...So, if that's true what they said, I should go with the 1 G.B)?

And, I notice newer games (like RO2, Stronghold 3, etc) their system requirements are only a 512mb graphics card, so...will I be better going for the 2 GB card then? or are game making companies not likely going past 1 GB for a long time?

2Gb card is better for ArmA, as for other games then the other card would be better. That said you did ask on an ArmA forum...

As for the PSU 700W should be enough, but dose it have two dedicated 6/8pin power lines for the graphics card? If not then get a proper gaming PSU. that 700W may be peek Wattage not sustained power draw.

I have one of these Link but I'm running a pair of ATI 6870's

For a single card setup this should do nicely LINK

[todayskiller 10]

2Gb card is better for ArmA, as for other games then the other card would be better. That said you did ask on an ArmA forum...

As for the PSU 700W should be enough, but dose it have two dedicated 6/8pin power lines for the graphics card? If not then get a proper gaming PSU. that 700W may be peek Wattage not sustained power draw.

I have one of these Link but I'm running a pair of ATI 6870's

For a single card setup this should do nicely LINK

Thanks for the help everyone (looks like I wasn't done asking questions after all BangTail :D)...I'll just quote this message so it's not all clunked into multi Quotes.

So 2 GB is best for Arma 2...While the 1 GB is best for almost every other game? (would it still be good for Arma 2 though)? and/or Arma 3 in next year? (talking the 1 GB card).

[Leon86 13]

It never hurts to have more memory on the gpu. Sometimes it doesnt help and performance is equal to a 1GB card of the same type.

[todayskiller 10]

It never hurts to have more memory on the gpu. Sometimes it doesnt help and performance is equal to a 1GB card of the same type.

Yeah, I was seeing that on a website yesterday, a guy ran benchmarks on games (granted, they were somewhat older games, like Crysis...l4d...and what not, but the 2GB card and the 1 GB card he was comparing were pretty much the same the whole way through).

So that's pretty much why I'm back here asking Questions :)...I'll be saving 60 bucks on the 1 GB one...but, like you guys said...2 GB is better for arma 2 and what not. :/

Plus, the 1 GB card has a lifetime Warranty (although, the 2 GB has a 3 year...which should be plenty).

Edited August 2, 2011 by todayskiller

[bangtail 0]

I would say that 1GB is no longer enough at 1080p and that goes beyond ArmA 2. I have tested a few games and Crysis 2 as well as Metro 2033 will also meet or exceed the 1.5GB limit @ 1080p if you are running full detail etc.

The extra speed of the 1GB card is irrelevant if you are hitting the memory limit of said card.

There is some terribly irresponsible reviewing going on where this issue is concerned. I wasn't surprised by ArmA 2's memory usage but I was surprised that Crysis 2 was so far over 1.5GB @ 2560 (and slightly over at 1080).

Edited August 2, 2011 by BangTail

[todayskiller 10]

I would say that 1GB is no longer enough at 1080p and that goes beyond ArmA 2. I have tested a few games and Crysis 2 as well as Metro 2033 will also meet or exceed the 1.5GB limit @ 1080p if you are running full detail etc.

The extra speed of the 1GB card is irrelevant if you are hitting the memory limit of said card.

There is some terribly irresponsible reviewing going on where this issue is concerned. I wasn't surprised by ArmA 2's memory usage but I was surprised that Crysis 2 was so far over 1.5GB @ 2560 (and slightly over at 1080).

Alright, but would it matter for me? if I'm just planning on running 1 monitor and 1920 x w/e or w/e it is? and...would the extra GB help with loading units? and processing them more fluently? or is that based on the Cpu? and has nothing to do with gpu?

I'll take your word for the gpu, since I've noticed no real Benchmark differences between a higher core clock/shader/etc card with 1 GB compared to the 2 GB. (and the 2 GB card would be better suited for future use, and if/when I sli them, it would be better than if I sl'ied two 1 gb cards? right?

I'm gonna go with this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130683

Best one I could find within my price range, and has the 2 GB. is this evga. (there is a Palit, but I've never heard of them before...and plus, the evga has a 1 year higher warranty :D...in case anything did end up happening). :)

[bangtail 0]

Palit are fine but I prefer EVGA.

I will tell you this from my own experience. The memory bottleneck causes hitching and spikes which are completely alleviated when the game has the memory it requires.

Going from 1.5GB 580s to 3GB 580s essentially changed my gameplay experience dramatically and as I have said in previous posts, 1GB is not really enough for 1080p where ArmA 2 is concerned.

You could get away with it if you turned the detail settings down but why would you spend money on a decent GPU in order to turn detail settings down?

Edited August 2, 2011 by BangTail

[todayskiller 10]

Palit are fine but I prefer EVGA.

I will tell you this from my own experience. The memory bottleneck causes hitching and spikes which are completely alleviated when the game has the memory it requires.

Going from 1.5GB 580s to 3GB 580s essentially changed my gameplay experience dramatically and as I have said in previous posts, 1GB is not really enough for 1080p where ArmA 2 is concerned.

You could get away with it if you turned the detail settings down but why would you spend money on a decent GPU in order to turn detail settings down?

Like I said in an earlier post...THANK YOU! (Your like God of helping people :D) (and thank you to everyone else who has helped me in my decision)...With that said, I'm going with the 2 G.B...and not changing my mind, you gave me enough reasons why it's the better card, and I thank you for that.

I noticed by CPU is getting a bit..."old" aswell, (which, this ins't an immediate buy...I'm looking at these...if you don't mind helping me some more) :D

the one I have now is an AMD Phenom Quad Core 2.2 GHZ

here are the ones I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808 (cheapest one, but it looks to be alright)? or am I wrong :D

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&nm_mc=Criteo&cm_cat=Processors+-+Desktops&cm_pla=AMD&cm_ite=19103727&cm_ven=BAC-CriteoBrand

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

(I know I didn't list any Intel processors, but that's because my Mobo can't support them) (In the future I'll have to buy a new mobo aswell, when I want to SLI my cards :D)

Edited August 2, 2011 by todayskiller

[bangtail 0]

As always, you're welcome.

I'm not really 'au courant' where AMD processors are concerned but Leon or one of the other regulars will no doubt point you in the right direction :)

[todayskiller 10]

As always, you're welcome.

I'm not really 'au courant' where AMD processors are concerned but Leon or one of the other regulars will no doubt point you in the right direction :)

Alrighty, Thanks :)

[froggyluv 2136]

Quick question Bangtail: Are you saying you have 2 580's both sporting 3gb memory or two 1.5's :eek:

Either way, what are you some kinda PC thug :p

[bangtail 0]

Quick question Bangtail: Are you saying you have 2 580's both sporting 3gb memory or two 1.5's :eek:

Either way, what are you some kinda PC thug :p

PM'd you :)

[Leon86 13]

Like I said in an earlier post...THANK YOU! (Your like God of helping people :D) (and thank you to everyone else who has helped me in my decision)...With that said, I'm going with the 2 G.B...and not changing my mind, you gave me enough reasons why it's the better card, and I thank you for that.

I noticed by CPU is getting a bit..."old" aswell, (which, this ins't an immediate buy...I'm looking at these...if you don't mind helping me some more) :D

the one I have now is an AMD Phenom Quad Core 2.2 GHZ

here are the ones I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808 (cheapest one, but it looks to be alright)? or am I wrong :D

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&nm_mc=Criteo&cm_cat=Processors+-+Desktops&cm_pla=AMD&cm_ite=19103727&cm_ven=BAC-CriteoBrand

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

(I know I didn't list any Intel processors, but that's because my Mobo can't support them) (In the future I'll have to buy a new mobo aswell, when I want to SLI my cards :D)

Make sure they're on the cpu support list of your motherboard. If they are just get the 955, arma doesnt scale above 4 cores.

If you're planning to get a new mobo as well just for sli I'd advise against it, I'd suggest you buy a cpu and mobo at the same time and go for intel, an i5 2500(K) will get better performance on stock than the phenom II overclocked. You can probably run sli with your current board as well, read up here

edit: And about the gpu, what cards are you comparing exactly? 2GB is usefull on a hd6970 but not on a hd4350 for instance.

Edited August 3, 2011 by Leon86

[todayskiller 10]

Make sure they're on the cpu support list of your motherboard. If they are just get the 955, arma doesnt scale above 4 cores.

If you're planning to get a new mobo as well just for sli I'd advise against it, I'd suggest you buy a cpu and mobo at the same time and go for intel, an i5 2500(K) will get better performance on stock than the phenom II overclocked. You can probably run sli with your current board as well, read up here

edit: And about the gpu, what cards are you comparing exactly? 2GB is usefull on a hd6970 but not on a hd4350 for instance.

Thanks for the reply...I'm planning on SLI'ing in the near future (and no, my board can't support it...it's a gateway piece of shit) :D. (it's running DDR2 Memory) which is another thing I'm going to upgrade...New CPU, GPU, Memory, Mobo :).

intel are more expensive though...so I'm iffy about that. :/.

also, here are the Gpu's I was deciding on:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130683 (one I am going to get)

OR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610 (the 1 GB Version I'd get, but others have lead me to get the 2 GB card).

-TodaysKiller

[Shadow NX 1]

Receiving the X4 965 today and cant wait to install it, offcourse if isnt comparable to a i7 in any way but for me it was a option since i plan to keep the PC at least another year and it cost me 100Eur.

Also i hope the change from a Phenom 1 X4 9850 are really noticeable especially with slight OC ( 9850 allowed 200Mhz+ max... ).

Anyone made that or a similar cpu change and can tell me what to expect?

[vetrox 10]

Just got OA finally and thought my laptop would have no problems with this game but man was I wrong.

I get and average of 20 fps if I put the pre set to very high!! Shame it runs so slowly cos it looks epic!!!!!

Currently running

i7 Q740, 4gb of dual channel ram and an nvidia gtx 460m.

I dont suppose anyone knows if theres a way to get the anti aliasing off of tress cos the moment I get to a group of trees my laptop starts to cry :(