eziogsv 0 Posted March 3, 2007 i have upgraded my german version of Arma (buyed on line by metaboli) with the 1.05 international patch the game now don't works in no way  the PC crashes 8 times on 10 during the game setup, 2 times on 10 after a max time of 5/6 minuts... wonderful work.... congratulations to devs!! mobo asus P5 B E6600 core2 processor 1 gb Corsair Xms ram sapphire X1950Pro with the lastest 7.2 drivers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted March 16, 2007 Hi eziogsv I guess you will be able to reply to this in 2 days. Brifly on the matter of the 1.06 patch you refer to in your other posts. I very much doubt that 1.06 will be capable of being applied in stead of 1.05 in fact I am almost certain you will have to apply 1.05 properly before applying 1.06. That is the way most patches tend to work. Your problem according to your post is with setup. In all probability you are going to have to uninstall and reinstall the game then reapply the 1.05 patch. Make sure you have no 3rd party programs such as sickboys language patcher or addons in ArmA folders when you run the patch! Can you post up the error reports you get so we can see what is causing the error. Nobody can help you fix it if we do not know the details of the problem. We will need some other information: Is your version of ArmA a down load? What version of windows are you using? Is it windows vista? Where did you download your patch from? Have you checked the size of the patch is it correct? This will tell you if you have had corrupted dowload. Double check you downloaded the correct patch I know it sounds stupid but we all make mistakes. Either way I would suggest a fresh download of the patch from the official source. Did you run a virus checker over the patch especially if you got it from a mirror or a bittorrent? it is probably a good idea to do so. Are you running a virus checker at the time of the install? It probably is not causing a problem but I have seen them prevent installs and most install packages tell you to turn off virus checkers while doing setup. Are you running any other software when doing the install? Probably a good idea to turn them off. The patch is doing a lot of work. Those are the basics. I will try and help you through this as I want you to have the good experience of ArmA I am having. Kind Regards walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 19, 2007 here I am... sorry for my language, but I am really angry because my ArmA don't works.... the first thing to say is that I work in the world of PCs and you can be sure that my PC, made by myself with the best quality components, has a good maintenance, with the last OS and drivers updates no viruses, troyans or worms. I use Nod32 like antivirus and my OS is XP SP2 the firs thing I made before upgrade my Arma german on line version was to uninstall my ArmA game and made a fresh new install: no problems or error messages I really don't remember where I downloaded the firs time the file but I have downloaded another time from the hollander Armaholic mirror: both zip files have a dimension of 477.548 KB, so I think they are OK so I have: 1) uninstalled again my ArmA game 2) deletet manually all remained ArmA folders 3) cleaned the system registry with System Mechanic 4) installed again my original game 5) installed the 1.05 patch without any problem THE GAME DON'T WORKS!!! -------------------------- it is NOt the game that crashes, I don't return to the desktop: is the whole OS that crashes during the game setup or at maximun after few minuts... and after 10-15 seconds of black screen the PC restarts waiting for new inputs........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted March 19, 2007 just in case, you got any .dmp files (with day date equal to crash situation) in C:\Windows\Minidump\ ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=MaVerick=- 0 Posted March 19, 2007 I dont think that ArmA is the problem here, this sounds more like a hardware related problem. Arma just got the great ability to uncover those problems where other games dont care You said that your PC reboots automaticly after some time so I would suggest that you check your RAM first. There are a few freeware RAM checkers floating around in WWW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertfox 2 Posted March 19, 2007 I smell an overheating problem. Check FSB, CPU and GPU temperature and perform a burn-in test with Sisoft "SANDRA". Additionally, you should describe your problem better. First you say how the patch can not be applied, then you say how the game can not be started, now you say the whole PC restarts after a couple of minutes playing ( ?! ) *EDIT* Something got me confused about the patch. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 19, 2007 just in case, you got any .dmp files (with day date equal to crash situation) in C:\Windows\Minidump\ ? I have not folders with this name or similar name in c:\windows.... and no .dmp files generated from ArmA in the whole c:\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 19, 2007 ...First you say how the patch can not be applied, then you say how the game can not be started, now you say the whole PC restarts after a couple of minutes playing ( ?! )Are we missing something else ?.......... perhaps my english is not so good, but I really can't read in my posts what you say... I never said that the patch can not be applied, and it's true that the game can not be started: it is because the PC crashes... obviously I intend that a game that crashes in 2 minuts is a game that don't starts: just the time to see the initial images and, sometimes, the menu: this is for you a game that starts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertfox 2 Posted March 19, 2007 I already said I misread the thing with the patch. And actually there is a huge difference between your game not starting, and your game crashing after 2 minutes. Trust me. - Does your game always crash at exactly the same point ? When the first splash screens go away and it will show you the menu with the water in the background ? - Did you do the test I suggested in my previous post ? *EDIT* I read all your posts again, and you simply confuse me. - Does your game run for 2-6 minutes now ? 6 Minutes means you can play sometimes ? No ? - You initially say it "won't start" 8 out of 10 times. Does that mean you can play 2 in 10 times without problems ? I'm getting a headache. You are not French are you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1052 Posted March 19, 2007 Disable the 'automatically restart after crash' option in your control panel. On next system crash you should get the good old blue screen. Check which program, dll or driver caused the crash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 19, 2007 I dont think that ArmA is the problem here, this sounds more like a hardware related problem. Arma just got the great ability to uncover those problems where other games dont care  You said that your PC reboots automaticly after some time so I would suggest that you check your RAM first. There are a few freeware RAM checkers floating around in WWW. I have runned Memtest for some hours... the Ram feels good (obviously, I think: are two Corsair XMS2 memories tested in twinks) >Arma just got the great ability to uncover those >problems where other games dont care  great ability???? buying ArmA I thinked to buy a GAME, not a HW STRESS TESTER  all my other games (America's Army, BF2 Project Reality, Battleground Europe etc.) works perfectly without the minimum problem: I think that this happens simply because them have a good game code, and Arma a not well tested game code, that has to be revised... that's all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 19, 2007 Disable the 'automatically restart after crash' option in your control panel.On next system crash you should get the good old blue screen. Check which program, dll or driver caused the crash. MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --------------------- following your request (I don't know if you intended this) I have disabled the VPU recover from the Ati Catalist Control Center now the game works, and I can play without problems even the graphic card now, without the VPU recover, heats less than before I think that BIS have to inform the Ati Support of this issue ****edit*** oppss, I spoked too early: the game crashes again, but after 30-40 minutes well, 30-40 minutes are better than 2 minutes hoping in future patches, both brom Bis than from Ati Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=MaVerick=- 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Better then nothing I guess. Did you get any error messages when the game crashed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted March 20, 2007 There is a problem with the 7.2 drivers. ATI are aware of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Better then nothing I guess.Did you get any error messages when the game crashed? no, because IS NOT the game that crashes, but the whole PC: I don't return to the desktop, but after some seconds of black screen the PC restarts now I have disabled the 'automatically restart after crash' option in the control panel... this evening I will see if I will get some error messages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 20, 2007 There is a problem with the 7.2 drivers. Â ATI are aware of this. ... and with the 7.1 too I tried to install the old 6.8, but with my X1950Pro the 6.8 gives a lot of problems both in 2D than in 3D... I have reinstalled the 7.2, so that the only problems remains ArmA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=MaVerick=- 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Just to make sure... First your PC rebooted itself after 2-3 min, and now after 30-40 min? 'Cause i ment the 30-40 min crash in my last post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Just to make sure...First your PC rebooted itself after 2-3 min, and now after 30-40 min? yes, I confirm after to have disabled the VPU recover from the CCC, now the PC creashes after 30-40 minutes more, the graphic card, that with the VPU recover enabled went to 90 celsius degrees in few seconds, now remains between 75-80 degrees incredible, I know, but it is so... I am not happy, obviously: the game haven't to crash never, but better of first... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 20, 2007 Disable the 'automatically restart after crash' option in your control panel.On next system crash you should get the good old blue screen. Check which program, dll or driver caused the crash. well, I did I have disabled the 'automatically restart after crash' option in my control panel but after the usual crash I don't see blue screens, only the usual black screen: the only difference is that the PC don't restarts after a new manual restart in the %SystemRoot% I can't find any Minidump folder or any .dmp file, so that I really don't know how to find the error sorry, I tried Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stabiz 0 Posted March 21, 2007 Is your system overclocked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 21, 2007 Is your system overclocked? absolutely not core duo E6600, card X1950Pro and ram Corsair Xms2 Pc6400... I think that my system can work well even without overclock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stabiz 0 Posted March 21, 2007 Strange, I have fairly similar system, and no crashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=MaVerick=- 0 Posted March 21, 2007 80°C sounds pretty hot to me, but being a Nvidia fanboy I dont know that much about ATI's 1950 series. You may take a look at the GPU fan and clean it a bit if nessesary. Maybe Arma is stressing your Grafic card to much and it gets to hot, causing your PC freeze and restart. ...Thats all i can think of atm, need coffee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karantan 0 Posted March 21, 2007 I think your thinking is a spot on -=MaVerick=-, this I don't return to the desktop, but after some seconds of black screen the PC restarts looks very much like an overheating problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eziogsv 0 Posted March 21, 2007 me too initially thinked that was an overheating problem, so I asked on the sapphire forum, and someone answered to me that until 90 celsius degrees there are not problems for the X1950Pro and now, once disabled the VPU recover, the card rarely goes over the 80 celsius degrees so, at this point, I think (or, better, I hope) that the problems are two: 1) http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=58542 2) the ArmA code that is very far to be properly optimized waiting for new ati drivers and a 1.06 patch  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites