DUX0726 0 Posted December 18, 2006 This is my idea for the Royal Sahrani Guards. It's a mix of parade dress and highly customized Interceptor Body Armor with arm and groin protection. Please vote "Yes" or "No." Thanks again. Eratta: I added a second, more subdued version. If this changes your mind, please say so below. Thank You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clavicula_nox4817 0 Posted December 18, 2006 It'snot bad at all, but he reminds me of an Imperial Guardsman about to die for the Emperor of Mankind or something. Also, I chuckle everytime I see the damn IBA groin flaps. It looks good, especially in contrast the proposed Grunt soldier, it gives them a functional uniform with body armor while at the same time making them stand out and look stalwart and royal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 18, 2006 It'snot bad at all, but he reminds me of an Imperial Guardsman about to die for the Emperor of Mankind I agree. It looks a bit too "Star Wars". I think your regular army guy looks great; I think this looks ridiculous, so I voted "no". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 18, 2006 Col. Faulkner, I was indeed thinking that there would be an Uday-type personality as a prince of Saharani, that's why I figured he'd really "ham-up" his personal toy soldiers. (i.e. Guards) Just, FYI. Thanks for the honest feedback. ES: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Fedayeen-Darth-Vedar-Style-SPECIAL-FORCES-HELMET_W0QQitemZ230066046802QQihZ013QQcateg oryZ10953QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Fe....iewItem</a> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 19, 2006 OK, thanks. I never knew about the Uday/Star Wars connection. Your outfit makes more sense given that backstory, then (but it still doesn't mean it doesn't look ridiculous  ). I think it's the white groin plate that most imparts the "Imperial Stormtrooper" touch to your man. What is he wearing on his shoulders? They look very broad (almost like an American footballer), and is there an "H" insignia on them or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 The shoulders are the "upper arm protection" component of the Interceptor Body Armor System. He is a Capitan of the Guard so his rank is displayed on his hat and also on each shoulder of his armor. Interceptor: http://www.mcleague.com/mdp/images/news/interceptor.jpg USMC Capitan Insignia: (His is slightly modified containing only one connecting bar) http://www.usmc.mil/goodfellow/Pics/capt.jpg P.S. If the flamboyant colors are the problem then they can easily be made Grey or O.D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 19, 2006 The shoulders are the "upper arm protection" component of the Interceptor Body Armor System. He is a Capitan of the Guard so his rank is displayed on his hat and also on each shoulder of his armor.Interceptor: http://www.mcleague.com/mdp/images/news/interceptor.jpg USMC Capitan Insignia: (His is slightly modified containing only one connecting bar) http://www.usmc.mil/goodfellow/Pics/capt.jpg Hmmm, OK, I'll shut up now as all I'm achieving is broadcasting my ignorance. The only thing I'd question in passing is the likelihood of such huge rank badges on his upper arms. Are you planning to design some kind of special "Royal Guard Insignia", or design unique rank symbols for the Sahrani army (or just stick with the American symbols)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 So far as rank indicators, I figure it's similar the USMC with slight modification here and there. The Royal Guard, in my mind, is a very brash sort of character. Their flamboyant colors and high end equipment only help foster this kind of confidence/arrogance. They are probably universally despised by the Sahrani Regulars, as they get the best of everything even though they don't do much of the "heavy lifting" in a crisis situation. I would figure that they (the Royal Guard) looked upon their bright colored uniforms as a kind of taunt: "Here I am, easy to see, come try me pal!" - That kind of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 I added a more subdued version. Let me know. Tks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 19, 2006 I added a more subdued version. Let me know. Tks. I like that one a lot better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clavicula_nox4817 0 Posted December 19, 2006 I added a more subdued version. Let me know. Tks. Well, it's alot more utilitarian, but it loses it's flair. Is there a medium? Maybe make that colar piece an emerald green or something. Â Maybe some green on that part of the upper arm armor near the edge, I forget what it's called. I really like your idea of these guards being very garish and a sorta "Hey Look at me! I'm the best and your dirt roflmao!" kind of thing. *edit* Instead of green, why not a blue to match the feather? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted December 19, 2006 Seeing as how your soldiers have feathers in their hats I don't think that groin protection is even necessary. I mean, what would they have to lose down there? Nice mockups nonetheless, I seriously do think the groin protection is pretty much unnecessary though seeing as how those look more like dress uniforms than combat uniforms. Consider replacing it with a nice belt. Also, I think the headsets look rather silly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted December 19, 2006 Good call there. And since when does the IBA have buttons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clavicula_nox4817 0 Posted December 19, 2006 Yeah..the groin flap..is..eh. They're pointless on the IBA anyways, it's just not going to do anything when you take a shot to the junk. Well, the buttons can be for show, and still be fastened by the regular velcro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted December 19, 2006 Buttons and velcro? Hahaha! Maybe on a dress coat, but not on body armour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 It's a highly customized Interceptor. The buttons are for show. The velcro has been removed. Each one was custom made for the Guard. These guys are essentially "bodyguards" for the Royal Family--only 150 in total--and as such, they are highly stylised. They depend upon their training--probably at the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (i.e. School Of The Americas)--to compensate for their obligatory pomp. (There was more back-story explained in the the "Logical South Sahrani Kit" thread.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted December 19, 2006 Ah well, in that case, go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clavicula_nox4817 0 Posted December 19, 2006 The IBA is fastened by velcro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 Not on this one, it's custom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 19, 2006 Seeing as how your soldiers have feathers in their hats I don't think that groin protection is even necessary. I mean, what would they have to lose down there? Hey! Just because a soldier wears feathers in his headdress doesn't mean he's a fairy! Â Â You could always think about making the feather into something more like a hackle (the feather "tuft" on this Highlander's Tam O' Shanter bonnet is called a "hackle"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 I know you desperately want a British angle to the Uniforms, and it may yet happen, but the French get higher marks for "pompous hats", so I must follow their example for that aspect of the uniform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 19, 2006 I know you desperately want a British angle to the Uniforms, and it may yet happen, but the French get higher marks for "pompous hats", so I must follow their example for that aspect of the uniform. Â I was just trying to help out with a more "nails" interpretation of the silly feather. When did I ever suggest a "British angle to the uniforms"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 FN-FAL, this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/whisky01/sahrani2.jpg , the hat above, it's all been of British origin. Fine by me of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Faulkner 0 Posted December 19, 2006 FN-FAL, this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/whisky01/sahrani2.jpg , the hat above, it's all been of British origin. Fine by me of course. But...but...FN FAL is not British, it's Belgian and the most widely used battle rifle of the 20th century. That's why I suggested it (among many other possibilities). I think you're mistaking it for the SLR. I only linked the WIP pic of the FAL since it's the only one I had quickly to hand. I have a G3 model (German) on the go too, and a couple of American ones (an Armalite AR-18 and Ruger Mini-14). And I was talking about the feathers. I don't expect (or even want) you to equip your guard with Highland bonnets! Please! Â Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DUX0726 0 Posted December 19, 2006 Cool, cool, my mistake on the FAL. Out of curiosity though, why are you so intent upon defending the fact that you were not taking a British slant in your stylistic viewpoints? On second thought, scratch that. Draw me a picture of your ideal South Sahrani Royal Guard. That's more telling and focused anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites