New Mod starting - PLA Chinese - help needed

[privatecream 0]

Hey guys,

I'm looking at doing a super detailed PLA (Chinese) forces mod for resistance. Moving it over to armed assualt when it comes out. The plan is to build the units to a very high level of detail so the US forces have something really nice to fight against, once AA is out. The VME mod is great but I want to focus on getting a few units to a really high standard, so much higher polycounts, texture resolutions, efficent LOD's etc.

We have quite a few modellers and texturers, but we are really held back by the quality of reference we can find, that's where I'm hoping you can come in. I'm looking for detailed shots of the following vehicles to begin with:

TYPE 89A SP AIRBORNE TANK

XC2200 TRUCK

TYPE 95 Self - Propelled APC

All and any reference would be really helpful. If you have any good links that would help also. Please send any shots/vids/plans to privatecream@googlemail.com

thanks in advance!

[nephilim 0]

hi

slightly offtopic

wasnt there another chinese mod that got turned down cuz some chinese high-horses had a problem with that?

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

hi

slightly offtopic

wasnt there another chinese mod that got turned down cuz some chinese high-horses had a problem with that?

Thats because they were all based inside China. Anyone not inside "The Great Firewall of China" should have no problem.

[Connors 0]

sounds good

[Ironsight 1]

hi

slightly offtopic

wasnt there another chinese mod that got turned down cuz some chinese high-horses had a problem with that?

The mod itself was not the problem but the conversion to FFUR was IIRC because it was against the Japanese.

[DKM Jaguar 0]

Are you going to do work which VME mod hasn't yet done? I can see why a project to extend their work would be valuable, but to redo their work with higher poly models might just cause lag, especially as these would be mostly an AI used side, especially as the PLA work available so far is of a good quality.

[Shashman 0]

No offense, but is it really necessary? The VME mod is by all means respectable. I'd much rather see a North Korean armed forces mod, as the one available is of rather poor quality (Remo's NK pack)

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

No offense, but is it really necessary? The VME mod is by all means respectable. I'd much rather see a North Korean armed forces mod, as the one available is of rather poor quality (Remo's NK pack)

Well if you look at some of the kit, both the Chinese and North Koreans seem to use very similar stuff so apart from some of the more spcialised vehicles its liekly to be a cosmetic skin job to convert it.

[privatecream 0]

We are aiming on really increasing the functionality of the chinese forces. Don't worry about lag issues, we have some great ways of keeping the overheads down with multiple lods, allowing lots of efficient detail at the top lod, then dropping down to preserve frame-rates.

Problem is we just can't find the photo/ plan reference we need to capture the detail acuratley and do the vehciles real justice. any help would be really really useful. we will provide credit and beta tests for any help we receive from you guys.

thanks

.PC

[IrishGuy 0]

No offense, but is it really necessary? The VME mod is by all means respectable. I'd much rather see a North Korean armed forces mod, as the one available is of rather poor quality (Remo's NK pack)

I agree. Maybe you should focus on a NK pack. The NKs get alot of their hardware fom China so you really wouldnt be making that big of a change except for uniform skins.

[Shinkansen 0]

There is at least one plastic kit producer who coffers modern chinese vehicles in 1:76 (Trumpeter???, Academy???, forgotten the name) Maybe they have the models you want.

[CanadianTerror 0]

The guy who did the VME mod was actually in the Chinese army so he had access.

If you dont have the access and there already is a large amount of Chinese mod made...it would seem a waste when theres other stuff similar (North Koreans as was mentioned) that people would much rather see.

This was said already, im just agreeing.

[mattxr 9]

"The Great Firewall of China"

lmao you cease to amaze me

well i think it sounds like a great project.. feel sorry for those guys in china they must of had special forces watching them.. lol

[Llauma 0]

So do you have any details about the team behind the mod or is it only you? How high poly count are you actually considering for the models?

I suggest that you try to find out the poly count of the ArmA units and use that as a guide. Simply making ultra high poly models isn't very efficient or wise. You should also take advantage of the new features ArmA will offer. Normal maps as an example will add detail without increasing the poly count. I'm quite sure that the ArmA units will have a lower poly count and resolution than many of the popular addons but still look better. Not because models automatically looks better in ArmA but because they use things as the mentioned normal maps but also difuse maps, perpixel specular etc.

It will be easy to port the OFP addons to ArmA but if you want them to look as good as the ArmA units you need to do more than that. It will be worth the effort but you better start preparing for it now if you're planning a quick release of quality units as soon as ArmA is out.

[4 IN 1 0]

the idea is that there is not as much pic showing what the newest hardward PLA have looks like, even with a few ppl who acturaly serves in PLA, they know far too well that what can be shown and whats not(you know, top secrect thing)

BTW VME are currently waiting for ArmA

[IrishGuy 0]

Quote[/b] ]The guy who did the VME mod was actually in the Chinese army so he had access.

Trained in human-wave attacks too i bet.

[chipper 0]

We are aiming on really increasing the functionality of the chinese forces.  Don't worry about lag issues, we have some great ways of keeping the overheads down with multiple lods, allowing lots of efficient detail at the top lod, then dropping down to preserve frame-rates.

Problem is we just can't find the photo/ plan reference we need to capture the detail acuratley and do the vehciles real justice.  any help would be really really useful.  we will provide credit and beta tests for any help we receive from you guys.

thanks

.PC

Goto the library and rent all the books on chinese military you can find!

Most libraries have a good amount of military reference material.

[-MP-OFP-CRICON 0]

Think these links may help you

http://www.sinodefence.com/

http://china.mp-ofp.com/mp/bbs/list.asp?boardid=46

http://www.kanwa.com/

http://www.afwing.com/intro/

http://www.zgjunshi.com/

[echo1 0]

No offense, but is it really necessary? The VME mod is by all means respectable. I'd much rather see a North Korean armed forces mod, as the one available is of rather poor quality (Remo's NK pack)

Well if you look at some of the kit, both the Chinese and North Koreans seem to use very similar stuff so apart from some of the more spcialised vehicles its liekly to be a cosmetic skin job to convert it.

As far as I know, the North Koreans have a lot of older Russian stuff, whereas Chinese have a lot of indiginous stuff that... at least doesnt look like its a cheap copy of Russian stuff. I think a North Korean mod would be better, especially considering that VME mod looks very nice IMHO, some of the highest quality stuff you can get for OFP

[-HUNTER- 1]

Hey guys,

I'm looking at doing a super detailed PLA (Chinese) forces mod for resistance. Moving it over to armed assualt when it comes out. The plan is to build the units to a very high level of detail so the US forces have something really nice to fight against, once AA is out. The VME mod is great but I want to focus on getting a few units to a really high standard, so much higher polycounts, texture resolutions, efficent LOD's etc.

We have quite a few modellers and texturers, but we are really held back by the quality of reference we can find, that's where I'm hoping you can come in. I'm looking for detailed shots of the following vehicles to begin with:

TYPE 89A SP AIRBORNE TANK

XC2200 TRUCK

TYPE 95 Self - Propelled APC

All and any reference would be really helpful. If you have any good links that would help also. Please send any shots/vids/plans to privatecream@googlemail.com

thanks in advance!

A self propelled APC!

*hahaah are there any non self propelled apc's???

No, but I also would much rather see a North Korean style mod. And wasnt there allready another Chinese mod working on several projects, including weapons and vehicles??

Well anyway going to be interesting to see what you guys come up with!