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Im going for more of a big farmland, world war III massive tank assault type feel to the island but for the forest I have I will try to keep that in mind.

I like the big farmland approach. Vegetation and ofp ai sucks my grandma's underpants. Keep it up! thumbs-up.gif

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The island is looking nice.  It reminds me a lot of Everon, which is probably my second favorite official island (very closely behind Nogova).  One request, though.  If you add an airfield, please put some effort into making it realistic.  If you need help on how to do that I would be willing to give suggestions.

Keep up the nice work!

-Pilot

EDIT:

Btw, I love the first pic, the town looks nice.

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Im going for more of a big farmland, world war III massive tank assault type feel to the island but for the forest I have I will try to keep that in mind.

I like the big farmland approach. Vegetation and ofp ai sucks my grandma's underpants. Keep it up!  thumbs-up.gif

Isn't enough of such islands out there? Haven't you fedded up with them? I am. It's just like the broken record with them; always the same, same, same ... We need something a bit NEW, a bit FRESH, and yes, a bit DIFFERENT and more REALISTICAL. And as I can see this island could-can meet this expetations.

And please, no airfields. So far I've been able to find only ONE 'european's type' island without an airfield. But the ports on them are rare like the virgins are in RL. The fishing would probably be the main branch of the island's economy so, such an islands have ports, not airfields! Also the airfield is a tactical nightmare; in my (mission maker's) eyes 'the owner of the airfield' is 'the owner of the island', game over.

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It's true that a airfield has a great strategical importance. But do you think a WW3 type tank war is realistic on a island? Only shipping more than a platoon of MBT's on a small island is a waste of ressources. On the other hand you could say this "island" is a part of something bigger (a bigger island or whatever)...

But however i second karantan's suggestion. No airfield please smile_o.gif

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Agree with that point. Unless you have two airfields, which isn't very realistic on a not that big island.

But having been in Denmark last autumn holidays I saw there were a lot of very small airfields. That type and size would be very well fitting for OFP.

But as to ports: that's really true. What I'ld love are ports you can freely fill up with whatever you'ld need. Not always ports with lots and lots of containers, storage halls and stuff. In my opinion that big sized industrial harbours aren't very likely to be found on that smaller OFP islands.

What size is your island and what looks the costline like? What about the terrain?

Btw. I very much like Everon, too. The landscape, woods, small villages and cottages...

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Hm.... Well lets just say the topic title "New Island" is a bit misleading and I probably should have named it "New Part of Continent".

I really don't like airfields that much either but if I don't put one in then I have the flying people complaining that there is no where to land. I think I may just have a dirt one or something.

What would you guys prefer instead of the giant farmland approach?

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I like that farmland idea and the dirt runway is a excellent compromis.

The done part of the island looks very good already. Made for for tank battles wink_o.gif If the rest of the island is similar to what you've schown then it will be one of the best islands i've ever seen smile_o.gif

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I like the farmland islands too, that's my kind of the island, but so far I've been to many times dissapointed with them; most of them just seems not be thouthed out well.

And that's what you should try to avoid with this island, because I really liked what I saw on those pics! Give it some time, and some thinking; it can't hurt if you make some kind of a 'wish list', then try to balance all the mentioned aspects and the suggestions from us (the voice of the public!wink_o.gif), most of them are very, very good, practical and usable (like those from Sputnik Monroe for instance, I also like your idea about some kind of a small airfield with a 'dirt track' (you see, a very nice compromis!wink_o.gif), suitable for agricultular planes and turistical Cessnas, and later, in some war, for the logistical purposes), try to avoid that the island will be suitable only for one kind of warfare (only for tank battles for instance - sorry, Serclaes wink_o.gif ), and it's possible, very possible, that we will whithness the birth of the best user's island for OFP!

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Yes, a dirt, or grass, airfield would probably fit this island quite well.  Then maybe an old wooden hangar or two would finish it up nicely.  There should be no need for a terminal, control tower, or any nice, shiny metal hangars if you go this route, making it very easy to make.  Chances are there might also be a house at the airfield as most grass fields are owned by private landowners (having landed at a few grass fields during my flying, I can tell you most of this from experience wink_o.gif )  Other than a hangar or two, and maybe a house, the rest of the field would simply be a standard grass texture. (Easy, right?)

I also like the farmland approach, just don't overdo it with hedges and loads of trees and bushes.  For example, Anjou island is very nice and quite realistic, but it lags like hell on my machine with all those objects.  Your pictures look good, I wouldn't add too much more to the farms.

-Pilot

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A word from a 'proffy' (a real pilot)! What an addon maker can wish more from that?

As I said; this island could go a long way ...

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[...]try to avoid that the island will be suitable only for one kind of warfare (only for tank battles for instance - sorry, Serclaes wink_o.gif ), and it's possible, very possible, that we will whithness the birth of the best user's island for OFP!

I prefer a island which is suitable to many kinds of warfare too wink_o.gif But its rather hard to balance that imo. Because as a island creator you may imagine things with some parts of your island but a mission creator wont necessarely have the same ideas. Else i agree, go on like you begun, considerate wishes and suggestions and it will be the best island ever! smile_o.gif

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I know it's hard, but also possible, especially on a huge (by dimensions) island like this is supose to be. So, where's the will ...

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I'm going to be honest with you guys, this could very well have more objects than Anjou. I will however do my best to keep the number to the point where it won't lag. There is nothing more annoying to me than an island that lags really bad on my own machine (especially if I made it) and my PC isn't very high quality stuff.

Anyway I was thinking about an airstrip like this:

Runway from VBS Sorry that is kind of hard to see but it was the best I could find quickly. Is there anyone who would be able to make that for me? Also is there anyone who is willing to make some custom buildings? (Ex. Wooden Hanger, Wooden Control Tower, Wooden Watertower, various smaller objects.)

I am trying to make the island good for all types of combat. The only thing I am worried about being a sucky island for is Air to Air stuff. It is mean't mainly for a World War III type Scenario so it will also be good for infantry as well.

The size of the entire map is still 12.5 x 12.5 but obviously with it only having one coast there is going to be a lot less water than Everon and the other islands. I think I need to switch the coast from the south side to the north side though so that it can work as Germany.

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Hmm, looks like a gravel runway. I think grass or dirt would be easier to do, you wouldn't need any special textures for them. But if you want gravel, then go for it.

Quote[/b] ]Also is there anyone who is willing to make some custom buildings? (Ex. Wooden Hanger, Wooden Control Tower, Wooden Watertower, various smaller objects.)

...I might be able to help, but don't count on it, yet. I have to say, though, that a control tower is unneccessary. Not every airport has a control tower, in fact, most (at least in the US) don't. And I have personally never heard of a grass field with one. The only airport buildings you should need are a hangar or two, perhaps a poll barn for storage, and maybe a house.

-Pilot

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It is actually a dirt runway. Its just really hard to tell in the pic because of the time of day. At noon it looks like dirt. It actually isn't a ground texture either or it is a road type of thing that has a dirt texture for it. I believe it would work much better because that kind of system is much more flexible. I could put several of them at different angles all over the map without having to worry about having them in only one cell etc. Not to mention that Everon does not really have very good dirt textures.

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Hi,

This looks great, like your earlier islands.

Quote[/b] ]I think I need to switch the coast from the south side to the north side though so that it can work as Germany

If the island is going to represent the northern German plain, will the place names for the villages reflect that?

Regards,

Sander

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Quote[/b] ]It is actually a dirt runway. Its just really hard to tell in the pic because of the time of day. At noon it looks like dirt. It actually isn't a ground texture either or it is a road type of thing that has a dirt texture for it. I believe it would work much better because that kind of system is much more flexible. I could put several of them at different angles all over the map without having to worry about having them in only one cell etc. Not to mention that Everon does not really have very good dirt textures.

Well, I guess you're right about Everon's dirt textures. That idea, though, is a really good one. It would be more flexible. Do you have an object that you are going to use, or are you looking for one? If you don't have one, yet, what size were you looking at (as in, how wide)?

-Pilot

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Yeah cool Germany smile_o.gif

If you want to find some maps or pics you could give a try on "Mecklenburg Vorpommern" as this is the name of the eastern coastal part of Germany.

Here some examples of something i found that might be helpful :

Map 1

Map 2

A little hint : this part of germany is practically not industrialised. It fits perfect to your farmland idea.

Sadly i can't tell more about that part of germany because i'm living in Bavaria. (known for what? Yeeeees the Beer biggrin_o.gif)

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Quote[/b] ]It is actually a dirt runway. Its just really hard to tell in the pic because of the time of day. At noon it looks like dirt. It actually isn't a ground texture either or it is a road type of thing that has a dirt texture for it. I believe it would work much better because that kind of system is much more flexible. I could put several of them at different angles all over the map without having to worry about having them in only one cell etc. Not to mention that Everon does not really have very good dirt textures.

Well, I guess you're right about Everon's dirt textures.  That idea, though, is a really good one.  It would be more flexible.  Do you have an object that you are going to use, or are you looking for one?  If you don't have one, yet, what size were you looking at (as in, how wide)?

-Pilot

I still need the objects. I was thinking somewhere from 25m - slightly shorter than the width of the cessna (i dont know that number exactly and I am just trying to visualize stuff in my head).

I am not going to make the towns be the same as real Germany because I already tried that once and it ended in almost complete failure. (Try looking up Fulda Gap or Bloody Days Mod on Ofp.info or these forums and you will see). I never finished it though it was just a demo but the towns started to suck really really bad. However I will probably use some of the town names from there but not try to do an exact replica.

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Wow! Excellent notworthy.gif I specially like these small hills in combination with the trees and bushes. smile_o.gif

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You should get the nick-name of "The Gardener" Jake, because you certainly have perfect the realistic planting of Trees and Bushes biggrin_o.gif

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Haha thank you.

Is there anything that you guys can see that needs to be done better or anything like that?

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That is because I really want to do custom ones. I am not a big fan of the ofp pine/fir tree forests and want to do something with more of the 'leafy' type plants.

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