GBee 0 Posted January 27, 2006 BTW I'm not sure the image posted by Bergman earlier was thermal imaging, rather it looks like reflected IR. The distinction being that reflected IR uses an IR light source to illuminate the target - thermal imaging uses emitted IR. Note the man's shoes amoung other things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert(uk) 0 Posted January 27, 2006 Well, if you were doing more colours, hotter areas would appear in greater contrast to the background temperature. Â This would assist the human operator in manually aquiring targets in the field of view of his sensors. Â However, in this modern age, the onboard computers assist in aquiring targets for the operator, by scanning the sensor input and outlining the hot areas on the monitor with symbolic reticles/shapes. Yeah, that would indeed help with identifying targets using the b/w system. What about goggles worn by infantry in the field though? PS - Thanks for the imput guys, very interesting stuff to read... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidhellfire 0 Posted January 27, 2006 One thing i have to add, whatever version is used, the colour one could be easly transformed into a grayscale. I hope that there will be one small addition: the ability to convert colours (like a mask) Long time ago we had a local discuss about b/w display under ofp. We couldn't since we can only manimpulate the transparency of layer not the mixing mode. The gray black and white one would remove colors, the red would work as a filter. With that one we could get b/w IR by default, and ability to get default cold-to-hot colors, or replace black colour mask with red one. Still, the best solution would monochromatic output with a texture with the color range used [example]. It would be most expandable solution, but it's hard to get a reason for such (anyway time learnt us that everything may be usefull). We could simulate drugs :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted January 27, 2006 Yeah, that would indeed help with identifying targets using the b/w system. What about goggles worn by infantry in the field though?PS - Thanks for the imput guys, very interesting stuff to read... Troops don't use IR goggles. They use passive night vision. Generation 4 passive night vision sees further down the spectrum into the infrared area (and further away from UV, so the system has a hard time seeing blue lights, etc), but it amplifies visible light, primarily. ...and no, they don't have computers assisted visual interpretation. It doesn't really make sense... you can't shoot with the googles on unless you have an ir laser on the weapon, and your senses aren't diluted by the mechanical interface of a mounted weapon/the cacophony of the vehicle around you. Also, you aren't trying to engage targets at such extreme ranges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert(uk) 0 Posted January 27, 2006 But IR/Thermal goggles do exist? I'm sure I've used them in the past in real life... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert(uk) 0 Posted January 27, 2006 But IR/Thermal goggles do exist? Â I'm sure I've used them in the past in real life... Â Yeah I remember now. I was stood in a tent with the guy who was showing me his goggles. My brother-in-law stood outside the tent and I used them to watch him through the wall of the tent. The background was grey and he (my brother-in-law) showed up white... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted January 27, 2006 I'm sure they do, as to how effective such a small unit would be in terms of military applications, I don't know. Gen 4 NV seems pretty freakin' sweet. Also, considering this is a game that attempts to portray the experience of modern warfare using existing armies as models, I don't know if IR goggles would really make an appearance. In fact, I think what the Army of the United States of America uses in Gen 3 or Gen 3 +. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bergmania 0 Posted January 30, 2006 BTW I'm not sure the image posted by Bergman earlier was thermal imaging, rather it looks like reflected IR. The distinction being that reflected IR uses an IR light source to illuminate the target - thermal imaging uses emitted IR.Note the man's shoes amoung other things. You may be right.. The specs are abit sketchy.. But it is labeled as Thermal Camera 4000 B by Raytheon .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites