Bordoy 0 Posted September 4, 2005 Came back off holiday at friday night from the English Riveria. And they are having a tall ships race which start at 12noon on saturday. The Race will be from Torbay to the Port of Santander. The race will end there, with celebrations for the 250th anniversary of the port, then they will race back to Torday. I managed to get a boat ride out in the bay area, and had a closer look up of the boats. There is a total of 11 ships taking part and i managed to see 6 as the other didnt arrive yet. I will get he pics up when i can off my cam, but for the time being hears the details of the ships taking part Kruzenshtern Class A Built: 1926 Flag: Russia LOA: 104.2m Rig: Bargue Home Port: St Petursburg Entered by: Baltic State Fishing Fleet Mir Class A Flag: Russia LOA: 94.8m Rig: Fully-rigged Ship Built: 1988 Home Port: St Petursburg Entered by: State Maritime Academy, St Petersburg, Russia Swan Fan Makkum Class A Flag: Netherlands LOA: 49.63m Rig: Brigantine Built: 1993 Home Port: Makkum Entered by: Captain Willem Sligting Thalassa Class A Flag: Netherlands LOA: 39m Rig: Barquentine Built: 1980 Home Port: Harlingen Entered by: Sailing Charter Thalassa Shabab Oman Class A Flag: Oman LOA: 43.9m Rig: Barquentine Built: 1971 Home port: Oman Entered by: Omani Navy Europa Class A Flag: Netherlands LOA: 44.5m Rig: Barque Built: 1911 Home Port: Rotterdam Entered by: Smit Tall Ship BV Pride of Baltimore II Class B Flag: USA LOA: 32.9m Rig: Topsail Schooner Built: 1988 Home Port: Baltimore, Maryland Entered by: Pride of Baltimore Inc Jolie Brise Class B Flag: UK LOA: 17.1m Rig: Gaff Cutter Built: 1913 Home Port: Hamble, England Entered by: Dauntsey's School, Wiltshire, England Juan De Langara Class C Flag: Spain LOA: 18.3m Rig: Schooner Built: 1983 Home Port: La Coruna, Spain Entered by: Asociacion Juan De Langara Zenobe Gramme Class C Falg: Belgium LOA: 28.1m Rig: Bm Ketch Built 1961 Home Port: Zeebrugge, Brlgium Entered by: Belgium Navy Excalibur Class D Flag: Netherlands LOA: 11.6m Rig: Bm Cutter Built: 1991 Entered by: Jeroen and Nannade Jonge-Spahler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted September 4, 2005 Normally regatta's are so typical Brittish ,and they do not tend to inspire my heart as much as those of the countrymen of that much greater sea faring nation that is called England. But then i read the list of this regatta ,and then i began to read thing's like schooner ,barque ,bomb ketch ,brigantine ,cutter ,and realized this is not just a regatta of sail ships ,but probably one of authentic 15-16th century ships?Atleast the type of ships suggest that. If it are really such old time vessels ,then ill be more than interrested to see photographs of it ,especially the Bm ketches and the brigantine's wich i find quite cool.Are they the 15th century kinda of brigantines or the 17th century type's? or are they just modern type vessels with old style classifications? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted September 4, 2005 I did a lot of sailing on Skutsjes and klippers as a kid. I wouldnt call the swan fan makkum (which is frisian for all you dutch people) or the Excalibur tall ships. Those things are just small time charter ships LOL man the Thalassa ... I actually saw her in port a while back here! Cool to see them about though tall ships strictly speaking I wouldnt call them. The big ships that came in for Sail 2005 in amsterdam those were tall ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted September 4, 2005 I did a lot of sailing on Skutsjes and klippers as a kid. I wouldnt call the swan fan makkum (which is frisian for all you dutch people) or the Excalibur tall ships. Â Those things are just small time charter ships LOL man the Thalassa ... I actually saw her in port a while back here! Cool to see them about though tall ships strictly speaking I wouldnt call them. The big ships that came in for Sail 2005 in amsterdam those were tall ships Yer, I think they just need a certain specification to be called a 'tall ship' and they all have it. The captains of the ships and local dignitaries had a Captains Meal at the only 5star hotel in the area. Quote[/b] ]Normally regatta's are so typical Brittish ,and they do not tend to inspire my heart as much as those of the countrymen of that much greater sea faring nation that is called England.But then i read the list of this regatta ,and then i began to read thing's like schooner ,barque ,bomb ketch ,brigantine ,cutter ,and realized this is not just a regatta of sail ships ,but probably one of authentic 15-16th century ships?Atleast the type of ships suggest that. If it are really such old time vessels ,then ill be more than interrested to see photographs of it ,especially the Bm ketches and the brigantine's wich i find quite cool.Are they the 15th century kinda of brigantines or the 17th century type's? or are they just modern type vessels with old style classifications? This is a pic of the Kruzenshtern Europa I have yet to upload my pics. The Kruzenshtern is the second largest sailing ship in the world. The Mir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scars09 9 Posted September 4, 2005 Nice pics. I was in Torquay over 15 years ago, was one of the best hollidays i ever had. English Riviera is really nice piece of coast. Is the MIR in somekind related with the german Gorch Fock? Nearly look same. More pics to come??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted September 4, 2005 Nice pics. I was in Torquay over 15 years ago, was one of the best hollidays i ever had. English Riviera is really nice piece of coast.Is the MIR in somekind related with the german Gorch Fock? Nearly look same. More pics to come??? Yer think it was one of the best hols I've ever had aswell mate. from tallship.co.uk Quote[/b] ]Mir was launched in 1988, one of the Choren B-95 class ships built at the Gdansk shipyard, her sister-ships being Dar Mlodjezy, Druzba, Khersones and Nadezhda. Now, Mir is a fine and fast vessel, a ship that incorporates much modern thinking on what a cadet trainer should be like, but for some, those for whom the ideal look of a big square-rigger was somehow enshrined in designs of the late 19th century, Mir is not the most handsome ship afloat. Aesthetics aside, is has to be said that Mir can really sail and her skipper, Victor Antonov, who has had her since her launch, knows how to get the best out of her and she often takes line honours in her class. Having said that, Victor is on record as saying that Mir is not the driest of ships whilst running before big seas and her fixed yards, because they cannot be cocked to leeward, means Mir cannot sail as close to the wind as some of her rivals. Again, this has not prevented Mir’s skipper from sailing his ship to the limits of the vessel’s capabilities, and he is not averse to short-tacking her up narrow fairways, only ordering her about when there are a few fathoms under her keel. As for the cadets, and she can take up to 144, one of the benefits of Mir’s modern design is that they get to sleep in bunk berth cabins rather than a shared area, so that one watch does not disturb the others. Not only that, because Mir’s design was specifically aimed at the training of cadets, it means that they do not have to suffer conditions that verge on the primitive: there is plenty of hot water, good victuals, a resident orchestra, and a fully equiped infirmary under the watchful eye of a surgeon. But don’t run away with the idea that the cadets are leading a life closer to a luxury cruise than a spell on a square-rigger - these cadets can really sail their ship, as her many honours in races prove, and her well-kept appearance testifies to the fact that the cadets know all about chipping hammers and paint brushes too! All this makes Mir’s Captain a real champion of the value of training offered by ships like this. Indeed, the whole ideal of sail training could not have a better voice than that of Captain Antonov’s, nor a better example of what a sail training ship should be like than the Mir. I know the Kruzenshtern was a German ship but it was awarded to the Russians in 1946. It was originally called the Padua. Yer more pics to come mate. Yet to upload them to comp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted September 4, 2005 i have pics on another comp of the tall ships when they were at home.. Â [uk, Newcastle/gateshead] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apollo 0 Posted September 5, 2005 Beautifull ships ,thx for the pictures. I saw a documentary once of a group that sailed around the world in such a ship in mostly in conditions of the time that they used such ships.Afcourse it's very harsh work ,but it looks most sattisfactory to having completed such a voyage as a true searot of that time. (get out the rum matey! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
