TwentyFourSeven 0 Posted May 9, 2005 I recently was kicked and called a cheat after a server I entered did a file check and it showed anim.pbo. These of course are Sancs Patrol anims and I cant see why they are deemed as a cheat. The lean anim on my screen moves me back out and in the open on your screen so if anything it is a disadvantage for me? Why should my cosmetic preferences be punished when online?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sicilian 0 Posted May 9, 2005 There is no reason why!!! This was caused because of minor knowledge about the using of checkfiles. There are many admins out there which only set them but don't understand and know to interprete the results of their checks. Don't think about, just use other servers. But even then some servers do not allow any modifications but do not call you a cheater if you use some mods. Mostly you will be noticed to remove them. Regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted May 11, 2005 actually not true the anim.pbo does have a cheat that re centers the rifle on players bodies this allows the client to see players stick out more from walls while corner hooking because this is MP and you are playing on our servers you will have to remove the MOD to make the game fair if we took you on your word we would have to take every body's word and thusly the cheaters would have room to operate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sicilian 0 Posted May 12, 2005 Post a screenshot! I never heard of this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted May 12, 2005 Some leagues have considered using this anim for league play, as after all, corner "hooking" is a glitch, the animation somewhat fixes the problem. Many servers allow its use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted May 12, 2005 Some leagues have considered using this anim for league play, as after all, corner "hooking" is a glitch, the animation somewhat fixes the problem. Many servers allow its use. true one league does for sure while 3 others out right ban them, and more then 70% of generic servers with generic file checks ban them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted May 12, 2005 Yep, its as Sicilian said, even those servers that do not allow you to use a 3rd party animation pack should not just ban out-right, it is, in essence, the same as people using sound-packs. Anyhow, if a server does ban you off the hop because you have a modified anim.pbo you are probably better off not playing there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted May 12, 2005 Post a screenshot! I never heard of this... no offense, but the ALSR file checks dont even scan for 80% of the known cheats, mod weapons or bypass systems so if you did not know scares me another point is that more can be done with this file to inprove cheater's kills, from never seeing players sit down or to seeing them run around with out walking or with thier hands up for easy targets so since the servers can not tell, it wont be allowed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sicilian 0 Posted May 13, 2005 no offense, but the ALSR file checks dont even scan for 80% of the known cheats, mod weapons or bypass systems First I want to remember that our public cf is a basic one which is to be extended by the admins needs as I alway said. It checks for basic detectable cheats and not the ones which could be or couldn't be detected. Second thing is that I stopped working on newer checks because it is not possible to catch the new cheats if they are used well! Your right, the Advanced Public Checkfile was set up long time ago and wasn't updated until today! But there is no sense in updating it! A new system is growing up and will effectivly break all known cheat possibilities then. No further information at the moment. Beta tests are already in action. As I said - its time to extend our possibilities! Back to topic Go on as Gadger said and play there where better admins rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 0 Posted May 13, 2005 I agree with the comments made that the anim pack is no worse than sound packs and even sky packs, giving better NV sight. I did back up the original anim.pbo before i overwrited it with sancs new patrol one. I played with it for a week before deciding there was no going back to the old version. When testing it online we did a test with leaning out from buildings and seeing what it looked like on the other persons screen who didnt have it. I got shot everytime as it was no advantage what so ever. Saying its different and unfair as the gun is closer to to the aim position makes no difference when in 1st person view as people often move with gunview activated for when they stop? Kaos Server kicked me twice for my anims so I wont be going back there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted May 14, 2005 that anim will depend on who's your using the one we tested allowed me to see a guy coner hooking and a person beside me could not I fired and killed him and he said yep you shot threw the wall and i did not see you so it's there, and thusly no anim moods will be allowed on our server if you want to play MP fairly you will have to conform to big brother Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victor_S. 0 Posted June 13, 2005 you shouldnt overwrite the anim.pbo, just make a mod folder called anim witha dta folder and put the anim in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auss 208 Posted June 16, 2005 To RN: I have found and issue with your check files: The skin cheat : "res\dta\hwtl\merged.pbo", "merged\00000.paa", "merged\00001&krovi4.paa", "merged\00002.paa", "merged\00003krovi2.paa", "merged\00004krovi2.paa", "merged\00005krovi3.paa", "merged\00006krovi3.paa", "merged\00007mc_vojakw2.paa", "merged\00008mc_vojake2.paa", "merged\00009mc_vojakw2.paa", "merged\00010mc_vojake2.paa", "merged\00011&str_fikovnik.paa", Can be caused by a player NOT using HWTL but rather direct3d in OFP preferences. Therefore causing the above file error when the player isnt actually cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted June 16, 2005 To RN:I have found and issue with your check files: The skin cheat : "res\dta\hwtl\merged.pbo", "merged\00000.paa", "merged\00001&krovi4.paa", "merged\00002.paa", "merged\00003krovi2.paa", "merged\00004krovi2.paa", "merged\00005krovi3.paa", "merged\00006krovi3.paa", "merged\00007mc_vojakw2.paa", "merged\00008mc_vojake2.paa", "merged\00009mc_vojakw2.paa", "merged\00010mc_vojake2.paa", "merged\00011&str_fikovnik.paa", Can be caused by a player NOT using HWTL but rather direct3d in OFP preferences. Therefore causing the above file error when the player isnt actually cheating. Old news buddy, but if someone is getting individual errors, well you get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted June 16, 2005 To RN:I have found and issue with your check files: The skin cheat : "res\dta\hwtl\merged.pbo", "merged\00000.paa", "merged\00001&krovi4.paa", "merged\00002.paa", "merged\00003krovi2.paa", "merged\00004krovi2.paa", "merged\00005krovi3.paa", "merged\00006krovi3.paa", "merged\00007mc_vojakw2.paa", "merged\00008mc_vojake2.paa", "merged\00009mc_vojakw2.paa", "merged\00010mc_vojake2.paa", "merged\00011&str_fikovnik.paa", Can be caused by a player NOT using HWTL but rather direct3d in OFP preferences. Therefore causing the above file error when the player isnt actually cheating. every bodie knows this, but if there is a merged.pbo error with it then they are cheating or have a MOD that alters the files Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auss 208 Posted June 17, 2005 Seems not everybody knew this (I didnt)..LOL no worries I'll keep an eye open for an altered merged.pbo cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites