F117 Nighthawk by TomiD

[theavonlady 2]

especially the tyre skid noise as it touches down - great idea

Isn't that the same as in Diesel's A-10?

[Messiah 2]

especially the tyre skid noise as it touches down - great idea

Isn't that the same as in Diesel's A-10?

not sure... didn't download it - only really download new things, not remakes of what BIS has already given us - although may have to take a gander into the remakes, as that new M1A1 is pretty tasty

[theavonlady 2]

especially the tyre skid noise as it touches down - great idea

Isn't that the same as in Diesel's A-10?

not sure... didn't download it - only really download new things, not remakes of what BIS has already given us

Diesel's A-10s are amazing! Fly one and you'll never want to step into a BIS A-10 again.

[pajama 0]

I hear the true/hidden intentions of the F-177s was to take out OPFOR AWACS. Is this true?

[theavonlady 2]

I hear the true/hidden intentions of the F-177s was to take out OPFOR AWACS.  Is this true?

AWACS are planes, right??? F117s carry bombs.

Of course, if the fly right above an AWACS and drop a 2000 pound bomb smack onto it in mid-flight, the AWACS would most likely be taken out.

Here's a site devoted to the bird.

[FerretFangs 0]

Whether or not that was an original intention, it is nevertheless quite a realistic option, if required.

Of course, now that the F/A-22 is nearly in service, I'd expect the Raptor to be much better suited for an anti-AWACS mission. The only problem that I think it would encounter is somewhat limited combat radious, which may be an issue if the AWACS is operating inside it's own airspace, as they typically do. Often, US combat flyers are far from friendly bases, and the Raptor cannot recover on a carrier deck, nor can it refuel from any tankers, except those operated by the USAF. Unless the pilot can pick up a tanker on egress, or recover at a foreign airbase, he will have to ditch.

[SM_Azazel 0]

I think he meant the ground based early warning radar.

like those huge domes in northern canada and stuff

kind alike this

[theavonlady 2]

Honey, I blew up the miniature golf course.

EDIT: Some real war footage videos at the bottom of this page.

[ag_smith 0]

I hear the true/hidden intentions of the F-177s was to take out OPFOR AWACS.  Is this true?

Some one read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising little bit too much?

[BraTTy 0]

like those huge domes in northern canada and stuff

I live in the USA,but 6 miles from Canada,we have one of those golfballs,on top of a hill about a mile away.I can open my door and see it.Used to be an Air Force base.I believe just the radar is still in operation.

[FerretFangs 0]

That's part of what known as the Pine Tree Line, the nework of ground-based early warning radars watching for incoming ballistic missiles, and bombers.

Yes, the F-117 could be used to destroy those in use for Russia, and China, but it would be much more efficient, and less risky, to use RGM-109's for this role.

[Bobcatt666 0]

Funny the like the F117 lost over Kosivo, now in display in the war Atrosities (sp) muesuem. Shot down by small arms firebullets marked the hull destabliazing their aircrafts flight control surfaces, causing it break up and crash. Russain units manage to capture the crash site to add more insult to injury annoying the photos I have of Russain army units surrounding the wreakage, before it was gathered up and taken away, later to be found on display when the war was over. ;P

Seen one break at an airshow and nuke a back yard after something fell off durring a flyby, ugly blocky, and can't fly without computers, the SR71 is still a sexy bird compaired to the Nighthawk, just the Nighthawk isn't a fluid leaking SOB like the Blackbird was on the ground.

Still good for getting rid of important buildings at night. ;)

[FerretFangs 0]

Yes, it's still VERY good at that despte being nearly thirty years old technology. I bet we won't lose any B-2's for several decades, either.

[Acecombat 0]

The plane is wodnerful tomi-d i have only one complaint , i want a more variable weapons loadout with more type of weapons.

A Nighthawk heats up

[FireflyPL 0]

Funny the like the F117 lost over Kosivo, now in display in the war Atrosities (sp) muesuem.

This double one seven was lost in Kosovo war but it was shot down over Srbija.

 Shot down by small arms firebullets marked the hull destabliazing their aircrafts flight control surfaces, causing it break up and crash.

No. It wasnt shot down by small arms. F-117 fly on too high altitudes to be shot down by Tripple-A. It was shot down by Kub missile (holes in the fuselage were actually made by shrapnels from the missile warhead) fired on balistic trajectory. It was just dumb luck for Serbs that they shot it down or just bad luck for pilot

Russain units manage to capture the crash site to add more insult to injury  annoying the photos I have of Russain army units surrounding the wreakage, before it was gathered up and taken away, later to be found on display when the war was over.  ;P  

I think you mistook Yugoslav troops with Russians. There were no russian units at that time in Srbija. It was only after cease fire agreement that russian forces came into Kosovo.

[xnodunitx 0]

Hmm...it's pretty good on keyboard/mouse.

Gee that helps a lot - I said it has bad handling with the joystick, it's a problem with a lot of plane addons, joystick does not equal keyboard/mouse. I know you're trying to help, but that really doesn't help.

Especially when it comes to rolling,if you can fly of of these planes with a joystick then you can fly anything on OFP.

[verbal 0]

Funny the like the F117 lost over Kosivo, now in display in the war Atrosities (sp) muesuem.

This double one seven was lost in Kosovo war but it was shot down over Srbija.

No. It wasnt shot down by small arms. F-117 fly on too high altitudes to be shot down by Tripple-A. It was shot down by Kub missile (holes in the fuselage were actually made by shrapnels from the missile warhead) fired on balistic trajectory. It was just dumb luck for Serbs that they shot it down or just bad luck for pilot

Yes, it was shot down by Kub. as for the luck, F117 isnt invisible for radar. its just LESS visible. the same goes for B2. try to use it agains Russia. the their latest SAMs arent that "crappy" Volchovs(SA-2 but i can be wrong) used in Vietnam.

not to mention TAMARA and VERA (developed in former czechoslovakia by Tesla). now its serving as support detection system, but its reliable and it works. im not sure, but the whole development cost less then one B2. passive detection devices made steath technology absolete.

[FireflyPL 0]

Yes, it was shot down by Kub. as for the luck, F117 isnt invisible for radar. its just LESS visible.

Well, i m absolutely aware of this.

the same goes for B2. try to use it agains Russia. the their latest SAMs arent that "crappy" Volchovs(SA-2 but i can be wrong) used in Vietnam.

Yea, but we are talking about F-117 lost over Srbija.

BTW Vietnam was supplied with S75M "Dvina" and S75 "Desna" not Volkhovs durring Vietnam war

not to mention TAMARA and VERA (developed in former czechoslovakia by Tesla). now its serving as support detection system, but its reliable and it works. im not sure, but the whole development cost less then one B2. passive detection devices made steath technology absolete.

Well, should I remind that Republika Cska is in NATO? :> So why, should stealth technology be obsolete? Besides you assume that Stealth is not under constant process of development.

[verbal 0]

well, my falut. you're right. it was dvina. i was talking a lot about Volchovs yesterday and theyre stuck in my head now.

maybe Czech republic is in NATO, but some TAMARAs were sold to some country(UAE? im not sure). and one got lost somewhere in Hamburg. Not to mention czech mentality. we are very talkative. should i remind you of Alois Svejk? his spirit lives on.

what i assume is that systems like Vera will be very hard to cheat. its very clever. one smart idea is better than constant development(sound very expensive to me).

[theavonlady 2]

Not to mention czech mentality. we are very talkative. should i remind you of Alois Svejk?

All you have to do is remind us of your forum moniker.

[verbal 0]

2 Avon: i dont know any Keyser Soze

but i know a lot of people with valuable information. pasive locators were developed before F117(at least in Czechoslovakia). it started as Ramona and slowly envolved into something useful.

to sum up - dont make stealth planes invisible... unless youre going to make the famous Mig-56

[SM_Azazel 0]

evne passive systems are useless if you use the "stealth" plane correctly. you never ever send them in alone they need the ec-135 to listen for coms and to provide an broad jamming thne you need the F-111 in tight escort to deal with sam's and other radar. the f-111 had soem of the best ecm systems on the planet. and was like 99% effective. that is why no stealth fighters wher elost in the gulf war. in the baltkcs the US retired the f-111 so the f-117 had no escort and was easier to target.

[Homefry 0]

Then again, who say's passive radar systems are impervious to bombs and cruise missiles?

[FerretFangs 0]

This thread has certainly taken a turn towards absurd. Those of you who believe that stealth technology is obselete, should dig some very deep holes, before invoking the wrath of nations possesing stealth technology.

It's all fun and games to puff out your chest and pretend you are safe until they bomb "teh CrAp" out of your sopposedly impregnable defenses.

I'm just thankful I'm a targeter, and not among the targeted.

[Messiah 2]

I'm just thankful I'm a targeter, and not among the targeted.

and where are you supposidly not targeted then?

going by your sig... the US - need i remind you of 2001?