Bizon Cheat Found in game

[RN Malboeuf 12]

http://www.roughnecks.org/images/bizoncheat1.jpg

http://www.roughnecks.org/images/bizoncheat2.jpg

the Players name is a fake, but it is neat to pick up a Bizon with that many rounds that can by pass file checks, (TKC random file renamer)

if any wish to follow our servers cross reference investigation you may visit our forums

[chipper 0]

I once picked up a g36 with 365426245 rounds in a ctf and in a cti someone found a ak74 that shot rpgs, they brought it back to base and the commander played with it lol.

Nothing new.

[sanctuary 19]

Are you sure that it is a cheat, and not one of the many cti bug occuring online ?

[korax 4]

Are you sure that it is a cheat, and not one of the many cti bug occuring online ?

this sort of thing does not happen with mission bugs

[RN Malboeuf 12]

yea, in this case the guy is lucky we only got a valid ID

that is one of the only largely used ISP in the game it seems, no hard core regulars on it from the looks of it

possible the ISP is for dial up users too, that may be the reason none of the names look that familur

1 down

999 more to go

I took the time to compress 8 months of server logs, so our cross reference engine is 1400% faster lol (means for every line you want in the log 140 more lines are there)

acc|connected|id=

was the expression we used to compress and then it drops the 3rd colum loosing even more data, so we now have a perfect log that shows in order everyone that ever connected in 8 months

USMC MaRiK had a nifty php that recorded player names and thier IDs into a mySQL database (most Senior WGL admins knew of this page), if i got my hands on that and rewrote IPs into it the total securlty we could offer admins would be wild

mabey for OFP2

[sicilian 0]

...that can by pass file checks, (TKC random file renamer)

As I saw your checkfile I noticed you've forgotten to check relative paths on all weapon configs bin files!

Check for

"bizon\config.bin";

"bizon\config.cpp"

and you should catch this boy,

else he is using a modified island which activates this cheat.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

yave have not see our check file

relative paths are checked tho

if you read our thread on it, the server actually recorded him with the player name Viper testing the cheats with the same checks you mentioned, they were picked up september then as he tweaked them he effectively bybassed the server file checks, there is nothing file checks can do for this

but it gave me an idea off of DK internal map check, if you want I'll register with ACR and pass on the new system we will be using to check for this, I would like to get it into as many maps as we can by the start of next week

Death to TKC!

here he is with the fake name Viper actually testing the cheat with our server a few days prior Sept 18/04 (same ID and ISP as Bizon man aka scorpion -faked name)

13584.366: Ch(63):acc(80.132.*.*:2304,'Viper',81557521,81557521)

13584.367: 11:42:41 Viper uses modified data file - RES

13584.372: 11:42:41 Player Viper connecting

13591.026: 11:42:48 Player Viper connected (id=*)

13596.947: 11:42:54 Viper uses modified data file - res\addons\bizon.pbo

13599.321: 11:42:56 Viper uses modified data file - bizon\config.bin

13645.367: 11:43:42 Player Viper disconnected

13901.661: Ch(65):acc(80.132.*.*:2304,'Viper',398851403,398851403)

13901.679: 11:47:58 Viper uses modified data file - RES

13901.685: 11:47:58 Player Viper connecting

13908.328: 11:48:05 Player Viper connected (id=*)

13909.911: 11:48:07 Viper uses modified data file - res\addons\bizon.pbo

13910.476: 11:48:07 Viper uses modified data file - bizon\config.bin

13960.851: 11:48:58 Player Viper disconnected

[RN Malboeuf 12]

oh and in regards to your flame post

I will all ways play devils advocate, but the truth of the matter is yes, i think many who actually use the cheats are by passing all the file checks, but this simply does not mean we wont run the most advanced checks there are

[sicilian 0]

Yes that's right as I said before. If you cannot catch him with this checks any more he is most possibly using a modified island with new cheat activating objects on it.

This was detected times ago but there are ppl out who rename there addons and entries in the configs to bypass. This way of cheating we currently could not detect for sure.

[sicilian 0]

...by pass file checks, (TKC random file renamer)

Additional info on this...

The random file renamer as you call it doesn't rename files at all. It tells you how to name your cheatfolders to be invisible for the normal checks like addons\g36a.pbo. But this tool doesn't help anything if you use relative paths cause the addons are the same as the originals.

Momentarily they manually edit the addons to bypass the checks. There is no known programm for this...

[RN Malboeuf 12]

you must not have used it then, it rebuild the addons internally (renaming internal classes) and then the cheat addons names

basicaly in game he is not using a bizon, he is using a bizon persay

it looks like a bizon, acts like a bizon, but its not the bizon.pbo and thusly wont set any file checks, and since he can name this bizon thru the cheat to anything he wants we will never beable to scan for it

now that i think of it the idea i had is of no use either ...........

fk....

mabey a script that looks for lost weapons (removed from game, or new weapons, ones that just magically apear

this can be done, its done in MFCTI with the bounty on vehicles, in MFCTI if you kill a Vehicle and get no reward for it it was not entered into the bounty list to give you the reward, I have seen a few of these magic vehicles and when you kill them no bounty is given

mabey this may help by the map checking weapons to a list of preset weapons

shit it could even be set to anounce the cheaters weapon class it would force the cheater to rename his files every time, and then when he spawns a new gun he is toast again as the server will anounce it

WICKED

[theavonlady 2]

I just want to comment that I find it pathetic to what lengths people will go to ruin a game.

I'm just shocked at the amount of time and effort devoted to this and the deviousness of the cheats being developed.

[Placebo 29]

oh and in regards to your flame post

Flame post where? I haven't seen any flaming on this thread?

I just want to comment that I find it pathetic to what lengths people will go to ruin a game.

I'm just shocked at the amount of time and effort devoted to this and the deviousness of the cheats being developed.

Yes but you're a mature adult (mostly). Majority of mature people have no interest in cheating, it's just a few sad little people who can only gain pleasure from this most weak minded of pursuits, heaven forbid practicing and becoming so good at something their untainted skills take them to the top of the field.

But anyways this thread isn't for discussing the mentality of cheaters, or the pros and cons of cheating

[sicilian 0]

you must not have used it then, it rebuild the addons internally (renaming internal classes) and then the cheat addons names

basicaly in game he is not using a bizon, he is using a bizon persay

it looks like a bizon, acts like a bizon, but its not the bizon.pbo

Can you provide me this tool over email please. I really want to see this. Could be that I meant another one. So please send me this one that I can see how it will change and what it change.

You said it isn't the normal bizon. Ok but that makes no sense because every other addon has to be mentioned in the addon section of the mission.sqm. Therefore the mission would never start if not all ppl got this special bizon addon, too. And what makes it more unbelievable...then the cheater has to upload the mission to a server.

Do you have any idea how this should be possible in another way?

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Can you provide me this tool over email please. I really want to see this. Could be that I meant another one. So please send me this one that I can see how it will change and what it change.

You said it isn't the normal bizon. Ok but that makes no sense because every other addon has to be mentioned in the addon section of the mission.sqm. Therefore the mission would never start if not all ppl got this special bizon addon, too. And what makes it more unbelievable...then the cheater has to upload the mission to a server.

Do you have any idea how this should be possible in another way?

you need to play with addons more, take the TWL league with its faulty Addons selections, ppl with the russian weapon packs in the wrong folder wont even see the the weapons used by other players, or even see any errors, the cheats are based around this type of loophole

the file im refering to is rnd.exe, the read me on it they supply is all you need

dont take my post to the literal meaning, i was trying to explain it simply, i probly made it more confusing

basically bizon.pbo is loaded, as is thier x123/cheats/bizon.cpp

you can scan all you want it wont detect the bizon error when the rnd.exe is used because its not altering bizon.pbo

have you not torn the who cheat apart? they have a special section dedicated to Two RN Members and Placebo, and Benu and a few others lol, if i remember the script it was "if player name = this then fade out" turns the screen black on the players if they are in the same game, but the coding was faulty and never worked, i think it might be client side scripting error - needs to be server side - nver really look too much into it

[RN Malboeuf 12]

oh and in regards to your flame post

Flame post where? I haven't seen any flaming on this thread?

never said this thread

[sicilian 0]

Can you provide me this tool over email please. I really want to see this. Could be that I meant another one. So please send me this one that I can see how it will change and what it change.

You said it isn't the normal bizon. Ok but that makes no sense because every other addon has to be mentioned in the addon section of the mission.sqm. Therefore the mission would never start if not all ppl got this special bizon addon, too. And what makes it more unbelievable...then the cheater has to upload the mission to a server.

Do you have any idea how this should be possible in another way?

you need to play with addons more, take the TWL league with its faulty Addons selections, ppl with the russian weapon packs in the wrong folder wont even see the the weapons used by other players, or even see any errors, the cheats are based around this type of loophole

the file im refering to is rnd.exe, the read me on it they supply is all you need

dont take my post to the literal meaning, i was trying to explain it simply, i probly made it more confusing

basically bizon.pbo is loaded, as is thier x123/cheats/bizon.cpp

you can scan all you want it wont detect the bizon error when the rnd.exe is used because its not altering bizon.pbo

have you not torn the who cheat apart? they have a special section dedicated to Two RN Members and Placebo, and Benu and a few others lol, if i remember the script it was "if player name = this then fade out" turns the screen black on the players if they are in the same game, but the coding was faulty and never worked, i think it might be client side scripting error - needs to be server side - nver really look too much into it

So we talked about the same thing. The rnd.exe doesn't change files in any way. It only tells you how to name your folders. No config changes, no class changes nothing else is done by it! Where did you get this info from??? It is not right!

Perhaps I should add following to defend missunderstandings...

The rnd.exe changes only the ofp.exe strings. No ingame file is changed. This is what I meant before.

The rnd.exe was provided with the cheatpack 0.9 and this cheats except the modified islands can be detected!

I know the script you mentioned and all other scripts in there. Also my name was mentioned there and I can tell you there is no fault in scripting. You should do more tests and so on cause the black out works fine!

As you can see this is not the way the bizon cheat works or the server where you've seen it isn't configured well!

All you've mentioned in the last post is known for many weeks and detectable. Don't think over this anymore. Try to get more info about the map and the server settings which were used at that day. I'm sure you will find the solution why he by passed.

[Placebo 29]

oh and in regards to your flame post

Flame post where? I haven't seen any flaming on this thread?

never said this thread

So why are you responding to something from another thread in this thread? Don't please.

[benu 1]

basically bizon.pbo is loaded, as is thier x123/cheats/bizon.cpp

you can scan all you want it wont detect the bizon error when the rnd.exe is used because its not altering bizon.pbo

Yes, we know. But we do not check for files on the harddrive, we check for addons loaded into memory. So if you check for the bizon.cpp you will check for x123/cheats/bizon.cpp (or whereever), regardless where they put it, the one they use ingame gets checked. You know, we tried to tell you this for months now...

Quote[/b] ]have you not torn the who cheat apart? they have a special section dedicated to Two RN Members and Placebo, and Benu and a few others lol, if i remember the script it was "if player name = this then fade out" turns the screen black on the players if they are in the same game, but the coding was faulty and never worked, i think it might be client side scripting error - needs to be server side - nver really look too much into it

Yeah, i saw this too. They also disabled input. Kind of funny. As if anyone of us would download this stuff to USE it... at least without looking into it at first. Suma, Pepca and Placebo were also in that list iirc.

I never installed that stuff, i only ripped it apart to see what it does and what can be done against it. Even funnier, USSRSniper is thanked in the readme and was also put in the "noobs list" (or whatever they called it) of their "enemies". Either there are two guys using that nick, their attitude towards him changed or those yeng guys are schizophrenic...

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Yes, we know. But we do not check for files on the harddrive, we check for addons loaded into memory. So if you check for the bizon.cpp you will check for x123/cheats/bizon.cpp (or whereever), regardless where they put it, the one they use ingame gets checked. You know, we tried to tell you this for months now...

Quote[/b] ]have you not torn the who cheat apart? they have a special section dedicated to Two RN Members and Placebo, and Benu and a few others lol, if i remember the script it was "if player name = this then fade out" turns the screen black on the players if they are in the same game, but the coding was faulty and never worked, i think it might be client side scripting error - needs to be server side - nver really look too much into it

Yeah, i saw this too. They also disabled input. Kind of funny. As if anyone of us would download this stuff to USE it... at least without looking into it at first. Suma, Pepca and Placebo were also in that list iirc.

I never installed that stuff, i only ripped it apart to see what it does and what can be done against it. Even funnier, USSRSniper is thanked in the readme and was also put in the "noobs list" (or whatever they called it) of their "enemies". Either there are two guys using that nick, their attitude towards him changed or those yeng guys are schizophrenic...

the game cheats spawns a weapon that is not the bizon, it uses fatures of the bizon like the model and the graphics so the core of bizon.pbo remains in tact, this is why were able to pick up the weapon, see it and fire it

short of debuging the server at the time the cheat is used we wont know what to scan for and we wont beable to get much out of it becuase of the fact they can rename it each time

if you were paying attention the class checks failed

[Zombie_Mod 0]

Sorry to butt in, but after doing a search for the exe on google (you mentioned the filename, not I) it wasn't hard to find a site with the cheats. Shit, I did not think there were so many people who took pride in ruining other's games!!!

Check this dude out (the moderator of the site in question):

Quote[/b] ]

"Yup,oh man its so fun to drop boats out of nowwhere,and then the chat people like WTF and oh no cheaters.I played one game yesterday and It got abit borign so I shot one of those things to activate the cheat menu.Then I teleportet myself out of the play area and spawned myself a ah-64,people like WTF A HELI?! and all of the sudden bombs where beginning to drop and a fww min later also boats so there was another cheater on the server as well.Then all of a sudden half of the server began spamming cheat sites.I was like wtf and loooooooool ."

What a waste of time!!! The amount of time spent waiting for a game to be set up and acquiring players, only to have it ruined by dicks like this.

Good luck with your ventures, hope you find a way to beat these fuds.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Yes, we know. But we do not check for files on the harddrive, we check for addons loaded into memory. So if you check for the bizon.cpp you will check for x123/cheats/bizon.cpp (or whereever), regardless where they put it, the one they use ingame gets checked. You know, we tried to tell you this for months now...

thats just its, you dont know what addon name to check for, regardless if its memory or the file it self, you cant actually think they will actually call it bizon.cpp

you can look at our investigation on the matter, he had the class errors (yet you post i dont have the class errors pay attention man) and then he gets by them with the cheat as he changes file names with in the cheat pbos

then later the guy conects with out the class errors and still has the cheat

Im laying odds this was thier latest attempt to fix thier cheats, and it worked

dude i have seen your file checker, its no where near complete as our, and the fact remains no file checker can check for files or classes we dont know the names of

for months I have been telling you this

[RN Malboeuf 12]

What a waste of time!!! The amount of time spent waiting for a game to be set up and acquiring players, only to have it ruined by dicks like this.

Good luck with your ventures, hope you find a way to beat these fuds.

most admins that run good servers (and are around) will have no problem finding out who the person is, if the cheater gets in a chopper we have thier name, ID IP, and can cross reference it to other play names he uses

[benu 1]

They have to get those new classes into the mission somehow. I can make my own addon too, call it superrifle and put it into my addons folder. That will not bring it into any existing mission.

If you would make yourself clear for once instead of lashing against everyone else we could maybe talk about WHAT can be done against it. But i have not seen you make ONE contribution about your "advanced findings/knowledge" in the alsr or bis forums. All you do is just repeat "your checkers are shit" when they have helped lots of admins. If your checks are so much superior, why not SHARE them with other admins? If your knowledge is so superior why not SHARE it?

But you only put other people down that actually HAVE done something for the ofp server admins.

And on a more personal line: you lied so often that i find it hard to believe all your claims until i see actual proof.

[Jinef 2]

Well, if you were to cheat someone out of 400 hundred quid, well you get 400 quid. That goes towards the christmas presents. However to cheat so you see your name at a top of a list on a computer game... Kiddies with too much time to play computers, do some schoolwork instead.