USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[EiZei 0]

2) What plans do the Democrats have for North Korea?

3) What plans do the Democrats have for Iran?

While you are at it you could tell me what the hell TBA is planning to do with these aswell besides making silly speeches.

[Stendac 0]

with the elections coming up I can't help but wonder:

1) What plans do the Democrats have for Iraq?

2) What plans do the Democrats have for North Korea?

3) What plans do the Democrats have for Iran?

4) What plans do the Democrats have for Illegal Immigration?

5) What plans do the Democrats have for American Security?

Can someone PLEASE tell me the answers for the above, because all I have been seeing is the Democrats bashing the Republicans. But they don't give their own plans! At least give some hint about it!

Besides, I'm starting to think they have none except:

1) Get out

2) Leave them alone

3) Leave them alone

4) Let them come

5) Recall all of our troops to concentrate on just the US itself

Well, gosh, the Republicans haven't proven themselves very capable of handling those issues either.

And they've bashed the Democrats as just as much as the Democrats have bashed them (or more).

I think I'm beginning to see why some people wasted their votes on Nader.

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I think there needs to be a distinction between NeoCons and TheoCons operating under the NeoCons banner (and Perle just pulled the rug out from under them)

Yes, the republican party has a few factions:

-The embarrassingly incompetent (Bush administration)

-The neocons (dangerously naive utopian intellectuals)

-The religious nuts (Evangelicals with an anti-abortion, anti-gay agenda whose leader just resigned after being caught with a male prostitute)

-The corrupt (DeLay, Abramoff,  Frist, Cunningham etc)

and of course;

-The libertarians (small government proponents) wondering what the hell happened to their party.

The democrats will gain quite a few seats in this election, not on their own merits but because of the disgusting mess the republican party has become. While it is tempting to blame this on Bush, what that party is today is largely thanks to Reagan. He was the first one to make a deal with the religious nuts and the neoconservatives to integrate them into the republican party. It evolved to what we have today.

The last election wins furthermore led to changes in the democratic party as well who to a large degree imitate the republicans.

[earl 0]

Listen, to call anyone stupid that is dying for you country is very arrogant. you fail to realize that ALL nations army's are a MAJOR reason why they are on the map today.

when you call those men and women in uniform "stupid" you are betraying every one of them.

Also, Kerry's comments were ambiguous, but it's quite clear now that his comment was never intended to insult anyone serving the the armed forces, but rather a lowblow against Bush, personally.  No suprise that they chose to interpret it in the worst possible way.  As usual, it's left up to the public to make an honest effort to get the truth.

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Maybe this story isn't over. I've been thoroughly persuaded by John Derbyshire and Christopher Hitchens that John Kerry's words were indeed a botched joke. The clincher for me was the actual prepared text, which I confess I hadn't seen till I watched the Daily Show (where I tend to get the news these days) last night. The actual text was that if you didn't work hard, "you end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."

Now, I may be typical of many people's real-time response to this piece of "news." When I first heard the remarks, I cringed and was appalled. When I saw the context, I could see what Kerry might have meant, but also saw the need for him to apologize for the way his spoken remarks could have plausibly been misinterpreted.

http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/11/the_kerry_gaffe.html

Bush isn't dying for anyone's country.

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Quote[/b] ]Well, gosh, the Republicans haven't proven themselves very capable of handling those issues either.

I've been bashing Bush since the patriot act, but the way they handled North Korea so far is actually pretty good. They were tough, but not too tough. They refused to get pulled into bilateral talks - which ofcourse would've resulted in the USA getting all the blame for the failure of those talks.

They finally got it right. I really can't think of any better way to handle North Korea. The banning of luxury goods should be the first thing sanctions against "rogue nations" should contain, kicks the regime straight in the crotch while the people don't even notice.

[Balschoiw 0]

Quote[/b] ]They finally got it right.

It was China who got it right, not the US.

[walker 0]

Hi all

I came across this today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9I4Nyp4odI&NR

Reminds me of the kind of thing I have seen being reported in the former USSR or China or Zimbabwe.

That was a US marine these guys assaulted but he showed the restraint I would expect from a Marine.

Kind Regards Walker

[Sophion-Black 0]

Quote[/b] ]They finally got it right.

It was China who got it right, not the US.

Yeah well, we kinda pulled them into the party talks. It doesn't take much to show them that the Yalu is only so small.

North Korea is much more than a confrontation between the US and North Korea. Its a clash between Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the US. So far we have been getting together, but if we would have just jumped into war... it would be raining nukes!

Quote[/b] ]1) What plans do the Democrats have for Iraq?

2) What plans do the Democrats have for North Korea?

3) What plans do the Democrats have for Iran?

4) What plans do the Democrats have for Illegal Immigration?

5) What plans do the Democrats have for American Security?

1) Stay the course (some say put more troops in)

2) Stay clear of face to face talks, keep up pressure on other nations.

3) Not sure, its been drowned out by North Korea.

4) I haven't noticed a unilateral response but I really haven't been listening to them about this.

5) Continue the acts and policies in place (i.e. the Patriot Act)

come on, someone has to know what the Democrats have in mind.

[EiZei 0]

They finally got it right. I really can't think of any better way to handle North Korea. The banning of luxury goods should be the first thing sanctions against "rogue nations" should contain, kicks the regime straight in the crotch while the people don't even notice.

Kim Jong-Il has to smuggle his VSOP Cognac? I bet he is already drafting his instrument of unilateral surrender already.

[martinovic 0]

They finally got it right. I really can't think of any better way to handle North Korea. The banning of luxury goods should be the first thing sanctions against "rogue nations" should contain, kicks the regime straight in the crotch while the people don't even notice.

Kim Jong-Il has to smuggle his VSOP Cognac? I bet he is already drafting his instrument of unilateral surrender already.

No cake either.

I know it's China who got finally pissed off, but if the US would've started those bilateral talks then it would be just a few more years of wasted talk, with NK breaking whatever they agree on. So all in all they could've done worse. For the Bush administration that's a huge compliment.

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They finally got it right. I really can't think of any better way to handle North Korea. The banning of luxury goods should be the first thing sanctions against "rogue nations" should contain, kicks the regime straight in the crotch while the people don't even notice.

Kim Jong-Il has to smuggle his VSOP Cognac? I bet he is already drafting his instrument of unilateral surrender already.

You have remember: those in power now have no money (frozen assets), and no luxury. They now know what it is like to be a peasant. They don't like that. Especially when they have to start eating one turnip a day!

[walker 0]

Hi all

The gay NeoConMan pastor and friend of George Bush Junior (has he got any straight friends?) has finally come out.

Quote[/b] ]Pastor Apologizes for ‘Sexual Immorality’

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: November 5, 2006

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) -- Less than 24 hours after he was fired from the pulpit of the evangelical megachurch he founded, the Rev Ted Haggard confessed to his followers Sunday that he was guilty of sexual immorality.

In a letter that was read to the congregation of the New Life Church by another clergyman, Haggard apologized for his acts and requested forgiveness.

"I am so sorry for the circumstances that have caused shame and embarrassment for all of you," he said, adding that he had confused the situation by giving inconsistent remarks to reporters denying the scandal.

"The fact is I am guilty of sexual immorality. And I take responsibility for the entire problem. I am a deceiver and a liar. There's a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it for all of my adult life," he said...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin....omepage

Follow link for the full article

After trying to make out he was heterosexual so he could help the NeoConMen take over the evangelical church as part of Bush's Faith-Based and Community Initiatives con.

You know the pig-in-a-poke of a supposed 8 billion dollars for poor people and such to be handed out by churches that turned out to be about 21 million dollars handed out to select mysteriously appearing church political control organisations like that run by Ted Haggard.

As David Kuo points out NeoConMen are "cynically hijacking the faith-based initiatives idea for electoral gain," ignoring issues such as poverty, and limiting faith-based grants to organizations that are "politically friendly to the administration."

Interestingly the NeoConMen removed this budget from the oversight by congress; got to keep anyone from blowing the con. I think the auditors should start looking at where this tax payers money actually finally went. Because we know Ted Haggard was paying 200 dollars a month for drugs and sex with a rent boy. Where did the rest of that 21 million of tax payers money go?

Having conned the evangelicals twice the NeoConMen believe in "never give a sucker an even break". So they have been trying to talk up up their Christian credentials for this election again; talking about anti abortion legislation and no Gay marriage stuff.

You know all the things NeoConMen and promised the evangelicals the past two elections but conned them with because the NeoConMen never delivered despite have presidency, congress and senate for six years.

But the NeoConMen seem to have per-chant for gay sex, young boys, and drugs it goes back at least as far the Franklin scandal. Foley, Charlie Crist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ4DyPTEJ6A&eurl=, and Ted Haggard. Of course there is still to be resolved story about Jeff Gannon that little skeleton in the closet will rattle down the ages.

Which media and party officials hid Mark Foley's activities?

NeoConMen Christians? Get real people these are the same NeoConMen that go to Bohemia Grove. Do a search find out.

But fooled you once, fooled you twice how about thrice is George Bush Junior and the NeoConMen's motto this election.

Have the NeoConMen delivered on their Christian promises?

The Evangelical Church are not the only people the NeoConMen conned

The NeoConMen's philosophy is based on the Straussian text, which is a story that the average person will understand it as saying one ("exoteric") thing but the special few for whom it is intended will grasp its real ("esoteric") meaning. In other words for us plain speaking folks it is A Con! in fact it is the famous:Pig-in-a-poke! con.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

It is the philosophy of the commie Bolsheviks (have a search into their history the NeoConMen have commie Trotsky-est roots) and the NeoConMen used it to take control of the US Republican party. It is called entryism.

Quote[/b] ]Entryism

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Entryism (or entrism or enterism) is a political tactic by which an organisation encourages members to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits, or take over entirely.

In situations where the organization being "entered" is hostile to entryism, the entryists may engage in a degree of subterfuge to hide the fact that they are, in fact, an organization in their own right. In the case of the Militant Tendency, this was done by claiming that the tendency was in fact simply a newspaper, Militant, its editorial board and readers. Militant was open about its support for Trotskyism and revolutionary socialism. Other entryist groups have gone to the extent of hiding both their political views and their organisational existence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism

What about conservative small government?

You have the biggest and most expensive government ever in the US now after 6 years of NeoConMen controlling presidency, senate, and congress.

Economically who benefited from the tax breaks?

Is your budget tighter than it used to be?

Is the USA up to its eyeballs in debt to China?

Have the prices of oil doubled under the NeoConMen?

Why is Unemployment massively higher than it was under Clinton?

Why are so many US firms like Ford and GM failing?

Why have so many investors been conned by the likes Enron?

Why are so many NeoConMen involved in Malfeasance?

Abramoff would take a couple of pages to list, Randy 'Duke' Cunningham who's in prison, you have got Bob Ney heading to prison, Kenneth Lay, George Bush Juniors best friend, escaped prison by dieing, Ted Haggard drugs and rent boys, Tom Delay under investigation for money laundering, Bill Frist investigated for insider trading, Bob Corker being investigated for shady land deals, George Allen the man who called an opponents staffer a Macaca and who's supporters assaulted a US Marine Veteran for asking awkward question like what is your arrest record senator? And now being investigated for stuffing a deers head through a black family's mailbox, Scooter Libby under indictment for lying to the FBI while they were investigating a CIA agents cover being blown, Danny Hastert and his whole office being investigated for failing to report Mark Foley when he was stalking little boys, ditto Tom Reynolds, Mark Foley himself for chasing after little boys... I could go on but my fingers are sore.

Something is rotten and the whole world can smell it.

There is a NeoConMen cancer at the center of the once proud US republican party. When a party is based on a philosophy of conning the voters it rots that party, like bad apple in the barrel; unless you get rid of them.

And pretty soon its not just the barrel that rots.

Where is America on Torture?

Where is America on Habeas Corpus?

Where is America's image in the world?

Were the reasons for going into Iraq a lie?

Have you been conned?

Will you be conned again?

Kind Regards Walker

[Stendac 0]

Hi all

I came across this today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9I4Nyp4odI&NR

Reminds me of the kind of thing I have seen being reported in the former USSR or China or Zimbabwe.

That was a US marine these guys assaulted but he showed the restraint I would expect from a Marine.

Kind Regards Walker

I don't blame Allen for telling this guy to get out. It looked like a case of ratfucking, although Mike Stark denied that he was involved in the Webb campaign.

Whether or not Allen spat on his wife really isn't any of his fucking business. When they said that Stark asked Allen some "tough questions", I thought they meant questions about topics like social security. It's something else to ask him about some very personal things that he gleaned from a liberal news blog.

Hey, Allen may really be a dick to his family (and a racist), but Stark wasn't looking for answers; he was trying to provoke a reaction.

[EiZei 0]

Let's just say that I do not envy the voters of virginia.

Quote[/b] ]You have remember: those in power now have no money (frozen assets), and no luxury. They now know what it is like to be a peasant. They don't like that. Especially when they have to start eating one turnip a day!

If some average 15-year-old can easily get his hands on drugs id say it's not much of an effort for a totalitarian leader to get a speedboat loaded with legimate goodies. Bet he laughed his ass off when he saw the UN response to this.

[walker 0]

Hi all

In reply to Stendac:

Quote[/b] ]I don't blame Allen for telling this guy to get out.  It looked like a case of ratf**king, although Mike Stark denied that he was involved in the Webb campaign.

Quote edited to remove expletive

1) If Allen cannot cope with hard questions he is not a suitable candidate for election.

2) Mike Stark is one Allen's Constituents and is entitled to raise questions.

3) Being asked by Mike Stark what he George Allen was arrested for is reasonable question to any potential senator.

4) Mike Stark has consistently denied that he was involved in the Webb campaign if some one wishes to say he is then they need to show us the proof.

Quote[/b] ]Whether or not Allen spat on his wife really isn't any of his f**king business.  When they said that Stark asked Allen some "tough questions", I thought they meant questions about topics like social security.  

Quote edited to remove expletive

5) Being asked by Mike Stark whether he spat on his ex-wife when George Allen is a supposed family values candidate is a reasonable question to any potential senator.

Quote[/b] ]It's something else to ask him about some very personal things that he gleaned from a liberal news blog.

6) The particular blog that Mike Stark quoted is bipartisan

Quote[/b] ]Hey, Allen may really be a dick to his family

7) And hence it goes once again to family values:

Lets just check out what his sister Jennifer Allen Richard has to say about George Allen's family values in her memoir: Fifth Quarter: The Scrimmage of a Football Coach's Daughter (Random House Publishing, 2000)

a) Allen attacked his younger siblings during his childhood.

b) The memoir claims that Allen held her by her feet over Niagara Falls.

c) Beat her boyfriend across the head with a pool cue.

d) Threw his brother Bruce through a glass sliding door

f)  Broke his brother Gregory's collarbone in another brawl,

g) Dragged Jennifer up a set of stairs by her hair.

8) It all points to a psychotic nature as does this rather telling statement his sister wrote in her memoir, "George hoped someday to become a dentist…George said he saw dentistry as a perfect profession—getting paid to make people suffer."

Quote[/b] ](and a racist),

9) Yeh: the confederate flag, noose hanging from his ficus tree, calling people ‘nigger’ and "Macaca" stuffing a deers head through a black family's mailbox, connections to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) that is designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League kind of all give that one away don't they.

Quote[/b] ]but Stark wasn't looking for answers; he was trying to provoke a reaction.

10) Testing whether a candidate can put up with hard questions without resorting to the violence, when in the case of George Allen he has a history of violence and indications of a psychotic nature, is a reasonable test of the character, for a constituent to put to a potential senator.

11) Using supporters to prevent such reasonable questions and avoid the test are the actions of a coward with something to hide.

12) That a potential senator fails to prevent his supporters from assaulting a US Marine veteran is inexcusable and points back once again to those psychotic tendencies and why George Allen is not a suitable candidate for senator.

George Allen seems to be a caricature of the Biff Tannen character from the Back to the future series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biff_Tannen

Whining about being asked hard questions is the action of a NeoConMen commie. The kind of thing Kim Jong-il does. Still I suppose I should not expect anything else from a bunch NeoConMen commie whiners.

I guess the question folks have to ask themselves is: Whether they can vote for a candidate who has a such history of racism, cowardly violence, women hating, and is so unmanly that he allows a group of his supporters to assault a US Marine?

Just glad to see that marine showed such admirable restraint despite the violence. Not that I would expect anything else.

Kind Regards Walker

[earl 0]

1) Stay the course (some say put more troops in)

For real?  What about Rumsfeld?  He's the guy Bush says is doing a fantastic job, and who will maintain his position in TBA, and who personally designed the plan that has too few people in Iraq for a reasonable chance of success. The same guy they talk about here:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2333360.php

Meanwhile:

Jubilant Iraqis carry a flag of Iraqi militia Mahdi Army and a national flag after US troops dismantled checkpoints around Baghdad's Shiite enclave of Sadr City Tuesday Oct. 31 2006. Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Tuesday ordered the lifting of joint U.S.-Iraqi military checkpoints around the Shiite militant stronghold of Sadr City and other parts of Baghdad

Stay the course indeed.  Who will put more troops in, three years late, when Rumsfeld is the one responsible for ignoring sound advice from intelligent, qualified people about the number of soldiers needed in the first place?  Will he admit to any mistakes?  Can Bush concede that the man is a failure and get rid of him, or is he just too afraid to admit that any of his own decisions could have been wrong?

[Sophion-Black 0]

Meanwhile:

Jubilant Iraqis carry a flag of Iraqi militia Mahdi Army and a national flag after US troops dismantled checkpoints around Baghdad's Shiite enclave of Sadr City Tuesday Oct. 31 2006. Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Tuesday ordered the lifting of joint U.S.-Iraqi military checkpoints around the Shiite militant stronghold of Sadr City and other parts of Baghdad

Stay the course indeed.  Who will put more troops in, three years late, when Rumsfeld is the one responsible for ignoring sound advice from intelligent, qualified people about the number of soldiers needed in the first place?  Will he admit to any mistakes?  Can Bush concede that the man is a failure and get rid of him, or is he just too afraid to admit that any of his own decisions could have been wrong?

Whatever the Iraqi PM thinks is right for his country we will do it. After all, not letting him do it would mean Iraq is just a puppet. It goes hand in had of us wanting a Sovereign Iraq.

I imagine the Shiites won't do anything wrong. They just saw justice in the Saddam trial. I guess its ok to say "they are happy now."

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Ooops, wrong thread

[Nemesis6 0]

Bad decision in my opinion. The Mahdi army kills any non-Muslims they find, like that Christian schoolgirl. They, like all other terrorists, need death.

[walker 0]

Hi all

Charlie Crist friend of Mark Foley (pictured) and suposed anti gay gubnatorial wanabe has now been outed by his former male lover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ4DyPTEJ6A&eurl=

Quote[/b] ]A young rising star in the Republican Party has boasted to witnesses of his sexual relationship with Charlie Crist, the frontrunner in the Florida governor's race who has repeatedly denied that he is gay. The GOP staffer, 21-year-old Jason Wetherington, told friends at separate social functions in August that he had sex with Crist, according to two credible and independent sources who heard Wetherington make the claim first-hand...

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/Issues/2006-10-26/news/norman.html

Follow the link for the full article

The website is getting hammered by hits and is only available now and then it is under so much load, but you can view the google cache

<a href="http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:n7PW7ypPjqMJ:www.browardpalmbeach.com/Issues/2006-10-26/news/norman.html+%22A+young+rising+star+in+the+Republican+Party+has+boasted+to+witnesses+of+his+sexual+relat

ionship+with+Charlie+Crist%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1" target="_blank">http://209.85.135.104/search?....nk&cd=1</a>

Jeb Bush, who is under investigation by the FBI along with Crist with regard to their apparent knowledge of Mark Foley's predatory emails up to year before the story broke; tried to cover Crist when he was asked about his sexuality on MSN.

Quote[/b] ]WBBH-TV—Ft. Myers, FL

Crist answers question about sexual orientation

LEE COUNTY: As gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist and Governor Jeb Bush campaigned around the state including in Fort Myers, a political bombshell was being dropped in Tallahassee. A gay activist group is challenging Crist to "come out."

"You have had a long time relationship with a male staffer and convicted felon," said Kyle DeVries, President of ProudofWhoWeAre.org

In front of the media, gay activist and former part time worker with the Democratic Party, Kyle Devries hand delivered a letter to Crist headquarters. In it he asked Crist to be honest about his sexual orientation...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15551306/

Follow the link for the full story[/b]

Apparently there is a video going the rounds of a former Crist staffer giving sworn testimony about Crists sexual orientation.

The gubnatorial race has become so close that Crist told George Bush not to campaign for him.

Quote[/b] ]Florida GOP Candidate Snubs Bush

White House Irked At Gubernatorial Candidate Crist For Ducking President

PENSACOLA, Fla., Nov. 6, 2006

(CBS/AP) As the midterm election drew close to the finish line Monday, President Bush jetted to a conservative corner of Florida's panhandle. He was met with cheers and an enthusiastic crowd, but also got a big snub.

To the White House's embarrassment and irritation, Republican Charlie Crist, whom Mr. Bush came to help in his bid to succeed the president's brother as governor, decided at the last minute to skip the chance to be by the president's side. Crist said he needed to campaign elsewhere in the state, CBS News correspondent Mark Knoller reports.

President Bush's aides are now battling the perception he is doing his party as much harm as good and was unwanted in many districts.

The White House did not hide its irritation at Crist for ducking the president, though Mr. Bush still urged Republicans to vote for Crist.

Crist's campaign said it was not a case of Crist distancing himself from Mr. Bush, but White House political chief Karl Rove took something of a swipe, saying he wanted to see how many people turned out for Crist in Palm Beach versus the 9,000 supporters expected at the Bush rally...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/06/politics/main2156578.shtml

Follow link for the full story

But it seems the NeoConMen have a per-chant for gay sex, young boys, and drugs it goes back at least as far the Franklin scandal. Foley, Charlie Crist, Ted Haggard and no doubt soon we will be adding to the list.

After all:Which media and party officials hid Mark Foley's activities?

NeoConMen Christians? In favour of family values? Anti gay? Get real people these are the same NeoConMen that go to Bohemia Grove. Do a search find out.

Of course it all pales in comparison to the still to be resolved story about Jeff Gannon. that little skeleton in the closet will rattle down the ages.

Kind Regards Walker

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You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.

-John Kerry

(Click text for the video of the statement).

To which some troops answered -

Seems like the democrats are being a little more... Wait, that's just their typical ways of expressing their kooky opinions; Spitting in the faces of others. Like the 9/11 conspiracies. That someone like John Kerry would say something like that does not surprise me since he's what one would call a liberal/nutjob. All of which, of course, can only lead me to one conclusion - Democrats are zombies!

[Nemesis6 0]

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[EiZei 0]

*yawn*

[Supah 0]

Amazing what american politics stoop to each electoral cycle. Stupid fingerpointing just to avoid the real issues. There is a war in Iraq that is going horribly the wrong way and it seems like afghanistan isnt going that well either and what do US politicians spend their time on? "OMFG! HE'S GAY! LOLZ!"

[EiZei 0]

As you know there are 435 members in the United States House of Representatives. Among them ONE muslim was chosen this year and this is the hysterically funny (yet scary) reaction of the members of an extreme right-wing website free republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1734458/posts

Some choice quotes:

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As I said on a previous thread...I feels as if I am watching 9-11 again on my TV. Watching America be attacked from within and I am helpless watching.

America...what have you done?

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Getting ready to go out & buy my burka. I knew it, next we'll have Barrack Hussein O'bama as Prez. This is what the liberals want.

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Oh, you are right, the enemy is within, Bush knows it, we know it.

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Exactly how the Nazi party took over Germany.

A certain religious group is said to be covertly taking over the goverment.. now where have I heard that one before..