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Newko2000 ghillie sniper & sl9sd

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These awsome guys were releas a week or two ago so some of you may already have it (beta)...so here they are! smile_o.gif

You can download the new final releas versions(?) of US and Sweden snipers plus a winter version. He also noted to me that some might like the older (beta) version so its up to you.  The beta version also includes a HK SL9.

Copy and paste picture URL into a new window...

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"Save Target as.."

Beta + SL9sd

US & Sweden

http://www.freewebs.com/pajama/rfile/misc/uss.zip

Winter

http://www.freewebs.com/pajama/rfile/misc/wsniper.zip

The US, Sweden, Winter ghillie Snipers requires 2 other addons

ftp://www.gamezone.cz:8021/ofpd/unofaddons2/AWM_addon.ace

ftp://www.gamezone.cz:8021/ofpd/unofaddons2/L1a1_Addon_zip.zip

Have fun smile_o.gif

:EDIT:

Sorry my host sucks so mirros would be great

Ahhh crap...just notice i made a mistake on his name sad_o.gif

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Akkk sorry every thing should work now...

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Akkk sorry every thing should work now...

nope, both links (pics) take me to the first page of these forums. rock.gif

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this is why you should copy & paste them into a new window biggrin_o.gif

looks very nice, downloading later..

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Are these Ghost In the Grass's ghillie models? No offense, just asking.

Anyway, I just have one thing to say... Bushes on the back? Sigh

Well who am I to tell you how to model? But I'd like your ghillie snipers about a million times more if you'd just take those bushes off the shooters backs. It's not really realistic, or even practical to have a bush sticking out of your back. 'Course, I've never actually tried it... Maybe I'm just an idiot.

But seriously, one more request: Could you make a ghillie texture for desert, snow, and meadow/grassland? Without bushes sticking out everywhere?

Not gonna beg you.... but, please?

Sincerely,

Dying Here tounge_o.gif

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Well who am I to tell you how to model? But I'd like your ghillie snipers about a million times more if you'd just take those bushes off the shooters backs. It's not really realistic, or even practical to have a bush sticking out of your back. 'Course, I've never actually tried it... Maybe I'm just an idiot.

It's not unusual to stick parts of local vegetation on your ghillie or any other kind of military clothing for that matter, it's quite easy to do so on classical ghillie nettings and makes your camo fit much better in the scenery. I've also seen a few people using adhesives (thermoadhesives) patches with rubber bands with which one can fix pretty important pieces of plants. I've seen this patch system used mainly on uniforms, but it can be easilly adapted to ghillies (with either a uniform or netting base).

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Check out the final versions...those well probably be to more your liking...

for pics either download the pack or go to OFP.cz or ofp.info

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Now ran: I realise bits of local a vegetation are common on ghillies. What I was talking about is whole branches like the terrible BIS models.

Pajama, I'll look at your new ghillies. If you've taken the branches off them, I appologize.

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Pajama, Iv'e DL'd and looked at your ghillies from close up, and as far as I can tell, aside from the new weapons and textures, these look just like the previous Neoko 2000 Ghillies, with trees sticking out the back. I'm sorry but they don't really look realistic compared to real ghillie suits.

Heh. Remember these? This was the right track! http://www.ofpec.com/images/depot/full/spd_ghillie_snipers.jpg

Anyway, here's some inspiration for you...

http://stuntman.s5.com/images/ghillie_pest.jpg

http://military.future.easyspace.com/sniper/ghillie.jpg

http://www.camohunter.com/ranchosafarispecial.jpg

http://www.ghilliesuits.com/images/finished4large.gif

http://207.254.38.169/photosff/photo1574.htm

http://home.hiwaay.net/~jdsmith/ghillie_howto.jpg

http://www.inheatscents.net/images/bugsuit01.jpg

Finally I dont know if this is applicable as they are from GR, but what the heck, it couldn't hurt.

http://images.google.com/imgres?....rl=http

Anyway, I appreciate your hard work, but these aren't going to do it for me. sad_o.gif

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Now ran: I realise bits of local a vegetation are common on ghillies. What I was talking about is whole branches like the terrible BIS models.

Pajama, I'll look at your new ghillies. If you've taken the branches off them, I appologize.

sure, you won't move around with a whole shrubbery or even wood on your back, but it's not uncommon to find a fern and take like a quarter of it to stick on your backpack and get smaller branches for your webbing or your vest. The basic OFP sniper isn't totally unrealistic, especially considering the timeline the original game is set into. A score years ago, a sniper would go in great lentghs of "gardening" to get a decent camo (here at least).

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Thank you for the great commets but pleas...any suggestions you have pleas send them to neoko2000, hence I did'nt make them wink_o.gif

Feel free to e-mail him at neoko2000@hanmail.net

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OK then, I was under the impression they were yours, that's why I asked if the models were yours in my first post.

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Now ran: I realise bits of local a vegetation are common on ghillies. What I was talking about is whole branches like the terrible BIS models.

Pajama, I'll look at your new ghillies. If you've taken the branches off them, I appologize.

sure, you won't move around with a whole shrubbery or even wood on your back, but it's not uncommon to find a fern and take like a quarter of it to stick on your backpack and get smaller branches for your webbing or your vest. The basic OFP sniper isn't totally unrealistic, especially considering the timeline the original game is set into. A score years ago, a sniper would go in great lentghs of "gardening" to get a decent camo (here at least).

*First... I'm sorry about that. but ido not read to mesage in BI-froum, when I made to Final addon..

*Second... the Ghilliesuit have irregular-shape.

because, the Ghilliesuit is made by each sniper.

The shape that you want to, one of this ghilliesuitshape.

your hope to ghilliesuit-shape is your bent..

*Second... If you want to remove the bush in the back.

I will try to again for you. but this new-addon do not have bush in the back,only..

the texture do not change..

From neoko2000...

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OK then, I was under the impression they were yours, that's why I asked if the models were yours in my first post.

Send to me E-mail then I send to new-ghilliesuit-addon.(remove to the bush in the back)

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I'd like to open with saying this is an excellent addon. While I myself love this ghillie more than others I've seen, I prefer to use other weapons than those included, but this is no problem at all. I especially like the fact that the foilage is not all over, and is only on the back. This is similar to the suits I myself made in the Army, more of the drag-style than an upright stalker suit. Even including such details as contact pads on knees and elbows, etc. The BIS sniper suit had too much foilage, and while in vehicles I can't even read most instruments because of it, just sucks. Now I can read guages and have better view in general.

I have a few points about the "bush in back" topic regarding this addon.

First, a sniper fires from the prone, in a hide which is in cover. He fires from a long distance where even without a ghillie he would not be identifiable with the naked eye, no matter how good your eyesight. Because of this, the primary need for such types of camouflage is to conceal the sniper from other means of visual identification, such as from other snipers or from binoculars. In order to do this, he must blend into the surrounding, to become invisible.

In real life, snipers don't just lay in the open or next to a bush, they use a hide which is similar to a fighting position or is within a large group of tall shrubs that can fully conceal him, his weapon, and the muzzle flash. Since OFP does not provide the ability to "build" a sniper hide except through using a script to "place" some sort of terrain object such as a netting, the use of foilage on a ghillie suit is a must in my opinion.

Second, the ghillie used by BIS by the default sniper is more of the type used by "upright stalkers", which are snipers that stalk their prey, like a deer hunter. They must have a camouflaged appearance at all times, even when on the move in a crouched walk. So the use of foilage all around is more desired. But the way they did the ghillie just didn't look right. To me, it pretty much looks like a regular soldier with a bush placed in the middle of his body. It's hard to see anywhere but in front of you, which creates a "tunnel-vision" affect that really sucks. Although some of you out there might prefer the "upright" sniping method, I prefer the "drag" method. A sniper can spend a long time waiting to take just that one important shot, but at times it might be necessary to make a followup shot or engage multiple targets from the same firing position. In cases like this, it's another reason the drag method from a distance is best. You can fire and have it hit the target before they even hear your shot. Slow aimed shots will help keep them from determining your location, but it's always a good idea to move to another position after a shot or two, keeps the enemy on their toes and from finding you. Just remember the saying..."Reach out and touch someone"  wink_o.gif

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On the topic of real leaves and such on a ghille suit, The way I was trained we don't use real stuff on the suits because as soon as you break it off, it starts dying and changing color therefore negating any upside to trying to match your suit to the terrain with real foilage. However, this is the afore mentioned "drag" style of sniping.

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