ralphwiggum 6 Posted July 7, 2004 Am I the only one missing all those sex scandals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted July 7, 2004 Looks like Bush is getting a unanimous approval rating abroad. http://www.iol.co.za/index.p....140B252 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Looks like Bush is getting a unanimous approval rating abroad. ignorance is global...so, only 25% of high schoolers really disliked Hitler and Stalin was a okay guy..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Looks like Bush is getting a unanimous approval rating abroad. ignorance is global...so, only 25% of high schoolers really disliked Hitler and Stalin was a okay guy..... He has less redeeming features- for example, Stalin was a bit of a joker and Hitler used to paint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 7, 2004 yes... disliked foreign personality 1. 25%-Hitler (is that a low number?) 2. 23%-Bush 3. 16%-Laden 4. ?%-Stalin Edit: I thought it will be like something (50-something for Hitler or Stalin)...the students must of been joking or something... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted July 7, 2004 No... People got to vote on which one was MOST disliked, so you'd get one vote on that category, you could not then say you also disliked your landlord, but it doesn't mean you like your landlord. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]No...People got to vote on which one was MOST disliked, so you'd get one vote on that category, you could not then say you also disliked your landlord, but it doesn't mean you like your landlord. So, 23% of hungarian highschoolers really hate bush so much that they really dislike him more than Hitler or Stalin.... Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]So, 23% of hungarian highschoolers really hate bush so much that they really dislike him more that Hitler Well Hitler is long long dead, no reason to hate him anymore. It wouldn´t do much to him And Bush is at least a living creature among us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Well Hitler is long long dead, no reason to hate him anymore. It wouldn´t do much to him And Bush is at least a living creature among us it is not hate but dislike.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted July 7, 2004 According to the article, Bush was also the most liked leader: The Bush 8% The Pope 6% ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]So, 23% of hungarian highschoolers really hate bush so much that they really dislike him more than Hitler Your words, not mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 7, 2004 The battle for the south has started.... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124992,00.html Quote[/b] ]Bush: I'll Win the South Wednesday, July 07, 2004 RALEIGH, N.C. — As Sens. John Edwards (search) and John Kerry (search) kicked off their campaign as running mates Wednesday, President Bush stopped in Edwards' home state of North Carolina, vowing to take the South in the November elections. Bush said he wasn't worried that Edwards would help Kerry win the southern states, which are the foundation of the president's political support. "When they go to the polls to vote for president, they'll understand the senator from Massachusetts doesn't share their values," Bush said. "I'm going to carry the South because the people understand that we share values." He also chided Edwards, a freshman senator, for his lack of experience compared to the current vice president when a reporter asked, "How does he stack up against Dick Cheney?" "Dick Cheney can be president," Bush responded. "Next?" The president was helping the Republican Party raise $2.35 million at a luncheon fund-raiser in Raleigh and visited Edwards' hometown to criticize the senator's role in holding up judicial appointments, saying that's resulting in backlogs of unresolved cases that languish for years. Meanwhile, Edwards and Kerry attended a rally in Cleveland, one day after Kerry announced his choice for vice president. Ohio is a major battleground state. Kerry welcomed "a different kind of electricity called John Edwards," characterizing the first-term North Carolina senator as a man with "passion, conviction and strength." "He represents the best of the hope of our country, the best of opportunity," Kerry said. Edwards then praised Kerry for showing "strength and courage and determination" during the Democratic primary. "The real reason that John Kerry and I are here together is that we share the same values," Edwards said with his usual campaign fervor. "We believe that tomorrow is going to be better than today. We believe that if we put out hearts and minds behind it, that anything is possible and between now and November, an important thing is gonna happen in this country — the American people are gonna reject the tired, old, hateful politics of the past ... and when he [Kerry] is president, tomorrow will once again be better than today." The Kerry campaign shot back, saying Bush was already "hitting the panic button" over the Kerry-Edwards. "The fact that the president of the United States is personally taking swipes at the Kerry-Edwards ticket a mere day after it was announced speaks volumes," the campaign said in a statement. "It's just disappointing that the President of the United States would stoop to this kind of political bickering." The Kerry-Edwards campaign tour will stop in Florida before it ends in Edwards' home state of North Carolina on Saturday. The Kerry-Edwards campaign also unveiled a new set of national television ads Wednesday; for the first time, the campaign will run ads in Edwards' home state of North Carolina. The seven 30-second spots introduce voters to the Kerry-Edwards ticket and their vision for a "stronger America," including good paying jobs, affordable health care, energy independence, a strong military and a respected America that leads strong alliances around the world, according to the campaign. 'This Is the Beginning' Earlier Wednesday morning, Kerry and Edwards made their first appearance together at Kerry's wife's compound in Pittsburgh, Pa. "Today, we're embarking on a new journey together, not for us, but for our country," Kerry said with Edwards at his side and their families surrounding them on the farm. "This is the beginning of our effort to talk to America and have a conversation. "Our vision is a vision that puts this country back to work and restores confidence," he continued. "Our vision is one that makes our country stronger … our vision will make America safer in every respect." The appearance was one that resembled a love-fest, with Kerry's first comments being that he was going to make Edwards' 4-year-old son, Jack, their new campaign manager, because "he does a wild cannonball." "This is the kind of man we grew up looking up to, respecting, somebody who believed in faith and family and responsibility," Edwards said. "For so many Americans, this campaign is about the future and it's about restoring hope. People are desperate to believe again that people will be better off tomorrow than they are today … that's what John Kerry represents — he represents hope." Kerry said he's proud of his choice of wingman. "This man is ready for the job. He's ready to lead America. He's a man of compassion, of conviction, of strength," Kerry said of the junior senator from North Carolina. The wives of the two White House hopefuls also took the microphone and echoed their husbands' words of hope and the need to give America something to look forward to. Kerry's wife, Heinz ketchup heiress Teresa Heinz Kerry (search), said America is "full of places" like the Ohio River Valley and Pittsburgh — places where people are losing jobs but trying hard to turn their lives around. "It's the same story and it's a very nice, personally, point of departure, to start this voyage together for America from a place that has been hurt, by a place that has been resilient and hopeful …and that's what we're going to do — to bring back hope," Heinz Kerry said. Elizabeth Edwards, saying she's "completely confident with this race," praised Kerry and his wife for spending their lives working to improve "the lives of people around them." 'Not a Balanced Ticket' House GOP leaders on Wednesday slammed Kerry's pick, zeroing on the team's liberal ratings, Edwards' lack of primary support in the South and his career as a trial lawyer. This is "not a balanced ticket," said House Speaker Dennis Hastert, adding that, "you have to look at what they stand for ... Kerry is the No. 1 liberal in the Senate and Edwards is No. 4 ... not a balanced ticket." Hastert also called Edwards an "interesting choice ... another pretty face." Democrats predicted Edwards will help the ticket in rural America. Democrats have lost enormous ground in the exurban and rural precincts, largely because of social issues such as abortion and gun control. Edwards may also put his traditionally GOP state — and its 15 electoral votes — in play, along with other Southern venues, Democrats said. But House Majority Leader Tom Delay said of the South, there's a "trend of rejecting liberals who come here and talk conservative." "The South is in play ... Edwards didn't even carry his own state in the primary," Hastert added. Edwards only won South Carolina in the Democratic primaries when he was running for president. Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., said a Kerry/Edwards ticket is a "dream team for the trial bar." Despite the criticisms, Kerry assured supporters Tuesday, "John Edwards is ready for this job. He is ready for this job." Fox News' Liza Porteus, Molly Hooper and The Associated Press contributed to this report. Damn! This election is going to be the battle for the swing voters/independents.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Your words, not mine Son of a bitch... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted July 7, 2004 I'm not sure, the article may be off, it may be he was the most popular, not most liked by 8%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted July 7, 2004 According to the article, Bush was also the most liked leader:The Bush 8% The Pope 6% ... Yeah you know how the polls go... it's who votes how from what categories, this is what you get. Confusing results, or not really. Because, there is no 2nd 3rd, 4rth to the end ranking in each vote, the results are actually wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]The Republicans are scrambling today to attack Edwards on any angle they can find, and it's not working. Â So far the only thing they can come up with is a lack of foreign policy experience, which is being read instead as a plus for Edwards in many circles given that Cheney had a ton of experience in the foreign policy arena and look where we are now. Â Attacking Edwards as a trial lawyer and touting their new committment to tort reform is also falling weakly by the wayside for the Republicans in the light of Enron executive Ken Lay's criminal indictments today and Cheney's ever more suspect relationship with Halliburton. Â The American people aren't geared up to buy the argument that Edwards was an ambulance chaser with all the evidence and his record of winning money from big corporations on behalf of the little guy. Â Right now corporate America is the evil job-exporting enemy of the middle class. Â The Bush Administration is going to have a hard time finding any takers on this attack angle on Edwards this election cycle. Republicans can call the Kerry-Edward ticket the most liberal of all-time (which is true) and attack from there....liberalism is a eeeeeeeevvvvvvviiiiillll word.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 8, 2004 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm....t_911_1 I'm really surprised my some french critics... Quote[/b] ]French Flock to 'Fahrenheit'; Critics Balk 1 hour, 39 minutes ago  By ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writer PARIS - France's passion for cinema and its collective antipathy for President Bush (news - web sites) made Wednesday's opening of "Fahrenheit 9/11" a headline event that quickly proved a boon at the box office. But even Michael Moore could not escape that critical Gallic eye Quote[/b] ]Elevating the movie to an event, the left-leaning newspaper Liberation left the laudatory commentary to its nationally known executive editor. "Michael Moore is a television show unto himself," Serge July wrote, praising the director as the "American Falstaff of documentaries." Quote[/b] ]Figures compiled by Mars Distribution, the movie's French distributor, showed 4,372 people attending the first afternoon show at movie theaters around Paris — versus 10 to 1,110 for other movies in town. The figures are no surprise, considering the French government spearheaded the opposition to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq (news - web sites) and polls have shown that the French roundly disapprove of Bush. Quote[/b] ]"I think this movie is a very good thing," said Clement Ipoulet, 25, after coming out of a movie theater on the Champs-Elysees, where the audience applauded at the end of the film. "Even if a majority of the French thought this, I think that now they have a confirmation." Quote[/b] ]But the French rarely resist criticizing winners — not to mention anything made in America — and not everyone had accolades for "Fahrenheit 9/11." Quote[/b] ]The daily newspaper Le Monde wrote: "To affirm ... that it was crowned (in Cannes) for its cinemagraphic qualities is either proof of incompetence, a pure lie or a cynical joke." Quote[/b] ]Le Monde said the film more closely resembles propaganda, and it carried a separate article to separate "truths" from "errors" in the film. Quote[/b] ]Moore, in an interview with Liberation, said the movie "presents my own version of the facts."  Quote[/b] ]Even less kind was France's superstar philosopher, Bernard-Henri Levy, who dismissed "Fahrenheit 9/11" as dishonest. "When Michael Moore describes Iraq, before the American intervention, as a sort of oasis of peace and happiness, where people flew kites .... there wasn't only that," Levy said on RTL radio. Levy noted that he opposed the war and considers Bush a "catastrophe for America." But, he added: "Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was also a horrible dictator. And that is not in the film of Michael Moore." OMG! French people bashing a anti-bush film !?!?!?!? There is still hope for France.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Hi all The knives are out for Cheney and his NeoConMen in the US Republican party. George Bush Jnr. has already been said to have dumped the idiot Ashcroft and several of his hangers on, there are rumours that Donald H. Rumsfeld has been told to fall on his sword to take the heat off George Bush Jnr. especialy with the new investigations into the Iraq war causes and the next stage in the Abu Ghraib torture investigation reaching in to the officer class and those in millitary intelligence. But the big scalp is of course Cheney himself. Rumoured sucessors to replace the foul mouthed liar Dodgy Dick Cheney are Sen. John McCain seen by some as an honest face to replace the former boss of the increasingly troubled Halibuton which is seen as a corupting influence by many voters. Another camp in the Republican party see Colin Powell as a good choice with his ability to pull in the African-American vote. Rumours are already circulating about foul mouthed liar Dodgy Dick Cheney's heart condition getting worse after a Grueling campaign bus trip that has resulted in zero gains for the Republicans. The lackluster performance included stumbles in the speaches where Cheney repeated lines he had already spoken. I for one will be glad to see the back of the NeoConMen in republican politics. Sources http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn....riefing http://www.usatoday.com/news....NEWISVA http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm....d_amato http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/18/politics/main624807.shtml http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38858 you dont get that much smoke without fire the foul mouthed liar Dodgy Dick Cheney's days seem numbered. What is your betting for Republican VP nominee for the 2004 elections? Kind Regards Walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]BALTIMORE - The American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites) on Wednesday sued the city of Baltimore and four Maryland counties for the right of same-sex couples to marry. The lawsuit was filed in Baltimore Circuit Court on behalf of nine couples and a man whose partner recently died. The couples had sought marriage licenses and were denied, said Ken Choe of the ACLU's Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, based in New York. Maryland law specifically defines marriage as between a man and a woman. In February, Attorney General Joseph Curran sent a memo to state legislators and the 24 clerks of the court reminding them that clerks are not authorized to issue licenses to gay couples. The ACLU has pending legal challenges in Massachusetts, Oregon, New York, Washington state, California and Nebraska. Other groups have filed lawsuits in New Jersey and Florida to legalize gay marriage ------------------------------ I don't know what we're going to do if we elect Kerry. If he gets elected, guns will be banned by the end of his term... which keeps away our second amendmant right to overthrow him :] Dean was actually a pretty good canidate. But now NORMAL (not hardcore liberals that actually go to the caucuses) democrats have no where to go! I have found this over and over again from democrats I know that they have no where to go with Kerry... because they hate Bush AND Kerry... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted July 8, 2004 OMG! French people bashing a anti-bush film !?!?!?!? There is still hope for France.... What's so surprising about that? Do you think that French movie critics follow some form of state doctrine? Is that how you do it in the US? If that's the case, I invite you to flee to Europe. We have something called freedom of speech. Believe it or not, but here people are actually allowed to form their own opinion of things. Anybody not blinded by Bush-hate can see that F911 is blatant propaganda. Moore himself has never claimed objectivity. He is the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh and FOX News. And IMO a very needed counter balance. What is not propaganda or Moore editorialization is the part of the movie that shows pictures from Iraq - interviews with soldiers - as well as the families of the soldiers in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]What's so surprising about that? Do you think that French movie critics follow some form of state doctrine? Is that how you do it in the US? If that's the case, I invite you to flee to Europe. We have something called freedom of speech. Believe it or not, but here people are actually allowed to form their own opinion of things. Anybody not blinded by Bush-hate can see that F911 is blatant propaganda. Moore himself has never claimed objectivity. He is the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh and FOX News. And IMO a very needed counter balance. What is not propaganda or Moore editorialization is the part of the movie that shows pictures from Iraq - interviews with soldiers - as well as the families of the soldiers in the US. I thought many people in europe hate Bush and would be praising this movie... For example, this guy: Quote[/b] ]"It's very important, this movie," he said. "We don't like Bush and this movie is anti-Bush ... It reflects our thinking." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_rOk 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]I thought many people in europe hate Bush and would be praising this movie... Hate is a rather strong word, don't you think? Incompetence, ignorance, narrow vision, deceitfulness (hope it's spelled right) and generally a rats face are the associations I get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted July 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Hate is a rather strong word, don't you think?Incompetence, ignorance, narrow vision, deceitfulness (hope it's spelled right) and generally a rats face are the associations I get. Indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
