Black apache released

[waffendennis 0]

well i thaught the 160th SOAR use's them or used them but I cant remember.

[tankieboy 0]

Of course it is possible to define the gunner as commander...just one little entry in the config  ;P

regards Helifreak

Can you expand on this as I really want this to. Pisses me off as the BIS one won't hover and kill. Be cool whilst hovering if you could tell the pilot to raise and lower altatude so you could hide behind trees and pop up and make a kill!

[ag_smith 0]

well i thaught the 160th SOAR use's them or used them but I cant remember.

I don't think so. AFAIK helis operated by 160th SOAR are:

A/MH-6

A/MH-60

MH47

Regards  

[Consigliere 0]

Can this black retexturd Apache replace the default BIS one, like INQ's A10 replaces the default A10 LGB?

[lee_h._oswald 0]

This one is looking black to me.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/militar....001.jpg

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More here:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ah-64-pics.htm

MfG Lee

[SILESIAN 0]

I don't see any differents from my textures - these only black.

It's link to my new DATABASE

[Consigliere 0]

Yes I agree : The textures of this black one are the same as Silesians except for the colour. The Hellfires are the same, the TADS is the same, the writing is the same, etc...

[SILESIAN 0]

It's always nice when somebody try to change original BIS's object.

This AH64 will be nice with some new scripts.

[lee_h._oswald 0]

When the "Black is Beautiful" Series continues, the next one should be this:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/militar....289.jpg

MfG Lee

[Consigliere 0]

Hmm...I'd never seen a black Cobra before

[Mr. Snrub 0]

Good work here Helifreak!

If you don't get around to making an all new model (and maybe a Longbow version as well?) with all the fancy features, it'd be good to see a new version of this one with tweaks to the weapons - ie. new sounds, realistic damage values, countermeasures and all that...

In the meantime, this is my standard Apache

[Hjaldar 0]

Hmm...I'd never seen a black Cobra before

Right... a Cobra should be GREY...

[Helifreak 0]

@Silesian: I added more light effects on the apache textures,

on the shaded sides I made them darker and highlighted sides they are brighter. I did not use much time to make the textures completely new, at first I just wanted to make a black apache, but then I modified the textures a bit.

If I get the model from BAS, I will improve my textures.....

regards Helifreak

P.S.: I wanted to ask you if I can use your Hellfire texture in my final apache version, Silesian.

[Tigershark_BAS 0]

I don't mean to dismiss Helifreaks efforts here....but there is no such thing as a black Apache.

Apache's are difficult to capture on film: its quirky shade of paint (FS 34031 Army Helo Drab) appears to shift color when lighting conditions change and its black legends over the dark green paint are virtually impossible to read from distances beyond 15 meters.

Although BIS did a poor job of capturing the color...I'm not convinced that painting it black does it either.

@Helifreak....I don't see why getting the model is a precursor to you improving the textures?

Also...if you were to make a Longbow...what changes to the model would you have planned?

[Helifreak 0]

You got my wrong i think ;P

I need the model to add new features like movable visual system, working dampers, and moving cockpitdoors. Also I wanted to make a more detailed cockpit than BIS ones, because I think a good-looking, detailed cockpit is very important....and the guys from Battle over Hokkaido Mod told me that they got the model from you, and that I should ask you for using it, and if I have your permission I can even use their Longbow....The model has of course nothing to do with improving the textures, I hope you understand what I mean....If you want to talk to me directly, here is my icq number: 145909991

regards Helifreak

[theavonlady 2]

I don't mean to dismiss Helifreaks efforts here....but there is no such thing as a black Apache.

Apache's are difficult to capture on film: its quirky shade of paint (FS 34031 Army Helo Drab) appears to shift color when lighting conditions change and its black legends over the dark green paint are virtually impossible to read from distances beyond 15 meters.

What color is this?

edit: 2nd image, over 100K

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ah-64a-991680a.jpg

[Tigershark_BAS 0]

I don't mean to dismiss Helifreaks efforts here....but there is no such thing as a black Apache.

Apache's are difficult to capture on film: its quirky shade of paint (FS 34031 Army Helo Drab) appears to shift color when lighting conditions change and its black legends over the dark green paint are virtually impossible to read from distances beyond 15 meters.

What color is this?

edit: 2nd image, over 100K

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ah-64a-991680a.jpg

To quote the great Avon.....read my post.

What was that part about capturing on film?

Trust me...it aint black....you want me to drag some Apache maintenance crew in here to prove it?  

@Helifreak...please email me on jvanlint@concept-5.com with a clear subject header about what the email is about.

[Dauragon 0]

bah what if the US Army just decided to take one and paint it black just for the heck of it lol

it aint hard to paint it in real life

[Tigershark_BAS 0]

Paintchip for the color:

[theavonlady 2]

I don't mean to dismiss Helifreaks efforts here....but there is no such thing as a black Apache.

Apache's are difficult to capture on film: its quirky shade of paint (FS 34031 Army Helo Drab) appears to shift color when lighting conditions change and its black legends over the dark green paint are virtually impossible to read from distances beyond 15 meters.

What color is this?

edit: 2nd image, over 100K

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ah-64a-991680a.jpg

To quote the great Avon.....read my post.

What was that part about capturing on film?

Trust me...it aint black....you want me to drag some Apache maintenance crew in here to prove it?  

OK, not black, but what then?

Here are some pics my husband took locally.

Some of my pics are of Apaches and show them to be some very dark shade bordering on black.

edit: your paintchip looks like next-to-black dark gray.

[lee_h._oswald 0]

The black apache looks good(better then BIS "brown").

Thats reason enough for me to use it.

If someone is going to release a "real" textured AH64, I will use it too.

But 'having' a black apache(and can play with) is much better than talking about a never released 'real' apache.

MfG Lee

[Helifreak 0]

That is my opinion, too...it isn´t possible to make the colorchanging in ofp when light changes.

MfG Helifreak

[SILESIAN 0]

P.S.: I wanted to ask you if I can use your Hellfire texture in my final apache version, Silesian.

I made my AH64 retextured addon for OFP commiunity and everybody can use my works - you too. (You have my permision)

In this apache you not change original BIS texures only you use my retextured ...... and you should write about it in .info .

Quote[/b] ]Tigershark_BAS Posted on Dec. 15 2003,13:56

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I don't mean to dismiss Helifreaks efforts here....but there is no such thing as a black Apache.

Apache's are difficult to capture on film: its quirky shade of paint (FS 34031 Army Helo Drab) appears to shift color when lighting conditions change and its black legends over the dark green paint are virtually impossible to read from distances beyond 15 meters.

Although BIS did a poor job of capturing the color...I'm not convinced that painting it black does it either.

Tigershark - man BIS never didn't try to capture this colors in "real".

BIS used in his AH64 this pictures :

They didn't live the room  for capturing this color  

another one ( I have all colections)

http://silesian.akcja.pl/SAH64/ah.jpg

[Helifreak 0]

Oh Silesian you´re in right! I´m so sorry about that, I just decompressed the apac.pbo without looking if it was yours or BIS ones.....I really didn´t notice. Sorry for that...I hope you will forgive me and allow to use your textures...of course I will notice in the readme.txt that they are basically yours....

I´m really srry for that,

regards Helifreak

[waffendennis 0]

I got a update but I hope I may release it so Helifreak and BAS may I relase the update?

It uses the BAS SOAR Pilots so it looks a little bit better ( i know the SOAR dont use this type of chopper but still it looks cool when these soar pilots are flying the chopper, it just gives more style.

And for the chopper:

I added some better egine sounds to it and i made the gunner commander ( in my opinion it's better because hte gunner haves more sight on the battle field and the pilot needs to concentrate on his flying work.

So here by: Helifreak and BAS may i release it?