ale2999 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Hey all, my bday is coming up and as every year I must give myself the best present   this year I thought about an handheld device with which I could listen to music, play game, and browse the internet. I was thinking about getting the new Palm 71 zire Palm 71 as it looks very good with a very fast processor and many feature. Quote[/b] ]processor and mp3 player capability Battery Type  Polymer/Lithium-Ion Connection Port(s)  1 CPU Speed  144 MHz Display type  Transflective TFT Expansion Slot  SD/MMC + Palm Universal Connector Flash Upgradeable  No Included In Box  Case, Cradle, Adapter, Software, Manual Keyboard type  Onscreen Memory Size (RAM)  16 MB Modem Type  No MP3 Capable  Yes Operating System  Palm OS 5.2.1 Operating System Compatibility  Windows 95+, Mac Pen Entry  Yes Resolution  320 x 320 Pixels ROM  Not Applicable Spreadsheet  Optional Voice Recording  No Warranty  1 Year Limited Parts & Labour Word processor  Optional More Information FEATURES: Integrated Camera 640 X 480 resolution camera. Free focus, auto exposure, auto white balance. Unique sliding design gives instant access to camera. Media Capable Listen to MP3s watch videos, play games Mono speaker and stereo headphone jack Ultra-Sharp Color Screen Easy-to-read, high-resolution (320x320), transflective colour display Crisp, colour screen is the sharpest Palm screen to date. 5-Way Navigator New one-handed 5-way Navigator (Up, Down, Left, Right, Select) makes it easy to quickly access applications and information Affordable Power ARM TI OMAP processor for multimedia and fast access to data 16 MB memory Dual expansion (SD/MultiMedia card + Palm Universal Connector Though I am not really sure whether to get a palm or to get a pocket pc. If you guys think pocketpc is better can u guide me a model as there are too many too choose from. Can you guys give me advantages vs disadvantages? Which of the 2 platform has better quality 3rd party free programs (games etcetera). Also I have a nokia 8390 with Ir, will I be able to browse the net and come to the forums using the cellphone to connect to an isp and the ir ports to connect the 2 devices? And guys take in consideration the money aspect as well, I am able to spend 450 canadians Thank you all for your help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted July 28, 2003 haha come on there must be some1 with lots of technical knowledge that is willing to advise me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Spend the extra 150 bucks and get the Palm Tungsten|T2 It has the better screen than the Zire 71, comes with better software (Documents to GO) and has a full metal case, and slider than makes it much smaller to use. Definately stay away from the Pocket PC OS. It licks in a big way compared to the Palm OS. Palm OS has way more quality freeware. Mostly because developing for the Palm OS is free, whereas for PPC, you need to get a developer suite from MS that costs $$$. PM me... I am a bit of a PalmOS guru, and I have a lot of experience with the Tungsten T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted July 28, 2003 I have a Pocket PC and I have no problems with it... but Warin, you must not forget that Palm OS has been around much longer than the PPC OS... give it a chance, will yeh? What aboot it? wee... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Pocket PC all the way. When I switched from Palm to Pocket PC, it was like a whole new world opened. The Palm is a toy, a PDA while the Pocket PC is a handheld computer. If you only want to have a phonebook, calender and some very bad looking games, then Palm is ok. If you want a more serious platform, real interconnectivity with your PC, real usable programs, then go for a Pocket PC platform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Another thing... you can even have a wireless access point (The wave of the futureâ„¢) and have your PPC communicate with it. I do this and it works great 8). All pocket PC's are in color, as well... I haven't checked the Palm market lately but there is more choice in PPC for colors.... Or, if you have a few thousand to spare, get a Tablet PC or if you have a few thousand more get a refrigerator + wireless access point + tablet pc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted July 28, 2003 How well do laptops play OPF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Sorry for the continued spam... but Pocket PC's also have many different attachments etc... for example, the inklink handwriting system. An infrared port connected to a tablet of paper, while using a special pen, can actually read what you write... and put it on the pocket pc... without even needing a tablet! It's only $99 too! Another thing you can use is a GPS... how cool is that! A color GPS on your pocket PC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Blah blah blah. There is a reason Palm OS still holds 70+ percent of the market. If all you want is games and movies, PPC is ok. Â If you want something for productivity, Palm is still better. Â I havent had a hard reset on my Palm, or any loss of data, in the 5 months I've run the T. Â My buddy with an iPaq/Jornada had his one month and had to hard reset (and thus loose all currently non synced info) 3 times. Â That was three months ago. Â Since then he has the replacement Futureshop gave him do the lock up/hard reset once a month on average. Palm OS is far more robust and stable. Period. Quote[/b] ]If you want a more serious platform, real interconnectivity with your PC, real usable programs, then go for a Pocket PC platform Please back this up with some fact. Â I can do IR/Bluetooth/USB/Serial sync with my desktop, to either ACT or Outlook right out of the box with my Tungsten. Â I can run any productivity program you want on my Palm, plus Documents to Go actually syncs better with Word and Excel than their PPC counterparts do (No loss of formatting/tables/graphics). As for games, the ones I have work well and have great graphics. The T is actually higher res than pretty much all PPC units Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Call me nostalgic HARD to do graphs with though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted July 28, 2003 Sorry for the continued spam... but Pocket PC's also have many different attachments etc... for example, the inklink handwriting system. An infrared port connected to a tablet of paper, while using a special pen, can actually read what you write... and put it on the pocket pc... without even needing a tablet! It's only $99 too!Another thing you can use is a GPS... how cool is that! A color GPS on your pocket PC! Emm, that accesory actually came out for the Palm units first. The pad thing Plus there is the GPS add-on for Palm as well You dont ignore 70% market share Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted July 29, 2003 wowowo, so like in anything else some ppl support one Os while others support others, while FSPILOT has his ideas  What I need the palm for is: productivity, GOOD games, mp3 capability, video capability and internet connectivity. The Palm zire 71 looked good because as far as I know it can do all but the internet connectivity for a reasonable price. But I am willing for some1 to talk me into Pocketpc. before I ever considered handheld I always thought that pocket pcs are better, but I have just no idea. more detail denoir? koolkid, I beat half of ofp cwc on a laptop : amd 400 mhz 98 megs of ram and a video card with 8 megs of ram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Die Alive 0 Posted July 29, 2003 Call me nostalgic HARD to do graphs with though. My etchasketch ownz your abacus. Now excuse me, I'm going to draw square boobs and pretend they're round. -=Die Alive=- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-k44- Obi Wahn 0 Posted July 29, 2003 This is my favourite handheld device: Damn, I love that toy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted July 30, 2003 errr ipod = music player only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frisbee 0 Posted July 30, 2003 Yep,and at that,I prefer this : Iriver IHP100 or : Phillips HDD100 Ontopic though,you might want to take a look at the Sony Cliés as well,they seem pretty good imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted July 31, 2003 after lots of research I am really thinking about getting the ipaq 2210. is a little bit out of my budget, but I heard reviews where they were raging how good this pocketpc is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted July 31, 2003 I have an iPaq 3800 (I think). Go for it, they are great line of PPC's! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites