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First of all on  cargo ships theres usually  markers along the side to indicate how much load it can take or need to reach the correct buoyancy,do military ships have this for example a massive big black line?

I remember seeing  a program  on cloud seeding where  there would be  planes that drop special chemicals in the air  to give nature a helping  hand in  making clouds and rain.

I  was thinking this would be a real good  way of covering ship movements if  u could create a cloud low enough to say fog  up a strech of water or would they do it the old  fashioned way and let nature decide when to make loads of fog then move ships out.

I would  also like to hear of  other interesting  tactics used   like when they covered tanks  up to look  like supply trucks in africa during world war 2.

also if someone  could give me the website for the australian and  new zealand navy websites it would be a bonus smile_o.gif

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'Cloud seeding' is outlawed throughout the world now. The RAF had an incident in which a huge flood ended up sweeping a village away in Scotland.

I think the Soviets had some major fuckups as well, as they looked into it as well.

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'Cloud seeding' is outlawed throughout the world now. The RAF had an incident in which a huge flood ended up sweeping a village away in Scotland.

wouldnt have been so bad if it had swept away a village in whales smile_o.gifJOKE

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I think the Soviets had some major fuckups as well, as they looked into it as well.

I don't know about fuckups, but I remember that during the 1980 Moscow Olympics the Soviet Air Force flew a lot of sorties to seed the clouds around the Moscow region and to force precipitation before they reached the capital. I guess they didn't want a rain on their parade... Oh Lord, what a pun...  tounge_o.gif

Anyway, if I remember correctly, this seeding is accomplished by introducing tiny metal (silver or aluminium, can't recall now) particles into clouds - the water condenses around the particles and falls out as rain.

..BTW, why would you want to go all the trouble of concealing your ships in fog? Most naval/aerial/satellite methods of detection (radar, sonar, IR, ESM) will not be affected by decreased visibility.

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Because u can still see them?

Wasn`t there trials for some sort of radar counter measure where the ship kicked up a lot of spray to mess up radar detection?

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There are other ways to detect surface ships using satellites that aren't affected by cloud cover.

Also, the United States has sophisticated underwater listening stations that can easily pick up not only noisy surface ships, but also much more stealthy submarines.

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We also had (might still have it) a sonar net on the bottom of the pacific so we could hear the soviet subs coming.

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We also had (might still have it) a sonar net on the bottom of the pacific so we could hear the soviet subs coming.

SOSUS? Yes, its still running, although its run by the UK, Norway, and the US.

The pacific one isn't as precise and the altlantic one for obvious reasons. (Size, and strategic importance)

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I'm not so sure about cloud seeding being outlawed, I recall a few news articles about little single-engined planes in Iowa and that area dropping pebbles of iodine into clouds to make it rain during that drought from a year or two ago.

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It might be a European thing then. I now for certain its illegal in the UK. Too many people died from mistakes.

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