Renagade 0 Posted May 31, 2003 First of all on  cargo ships theres usually  markers along the side to indicate how much load it can take or need to reach the correct buoyancy,do military ships have this for example a massive big black line? I remember seeing  a program  on cloud seeding where  there would be  planes that drop special chemicals in the air  to give nature a helping  hand in  making clouds and rain. I  was thinking this would be a real good  way of covering ship movements if  u could create a cloud low enough to say fog  up a strech of water or would they do it the old  fashioned way and let nature decide when to make loads of fog then move ships out. I would  also like to hear of  other interesting  tactics used  like when they covered tanks  up to look  like supply trucks in africa during world war 2. also if someone  could give me the website for the australian and  new zealand navy websites it would be a bonus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted May 31, 2003 'Cloud seeding' is outlawed throughout the world now. The RAF had an incident in which a huge flood ended up sweeping a village away in Scotland. I think the Soviets had some major fuckups as well, as they looked into it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolips71 0 Posted May 31, 2003 'Cloud seeding' is outlawed throughout the world now. The RAF had an incident in which a huge flood ended up sweeping a village away in Scotland. wouldnt have been so bad if it had swept away a village in whales JOKE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blaegis 0 Posted May 31, 2003 I think the Soviets had some major fuckups as well, as they looked into it as well. I don't know about fuckups, but I remember that during the 1980 Moscow Olympics the Soviet Air Force flew a lot of sorties to seed the clouds around the Moscow region and to force precipitation before they reached the capital. I guess they didn't want a rain on their parade... Oh Lord, what a pun... Â Anyway, if I remember correctly, this seeding is accomplished by introducing tiny metal (silver or aluminium, can't recall now) particles into clouds - the water condenses around the particles and falls out as rain. ..BTW, why would you want to go all the trouble of concealing your ships in fog? Most naval/aerial/satellite methods of detection (radar, sonar, IR, ESM) will not be affected by decreased visibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted May 31, 2003 Because u can still see them? Wasn`t there trials for some sort of radar counter measure where the ship kicked up a lot of spray to mess up radar detection? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted May 31, 2003 There are other ways to detect surface ships using satellites that aren't affected by cloud cover. Also, the United States has sophisticated underwater listening stations that can easily pick up not only noisy surface ships, but also much more stealthy submarines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted May 31, 2003 We also had (might still have it) a sonar net on the bottom of the pacific so we could hear the soviet subs coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted May 31, 2003 We also had (might still have it) a sonar net on the bottom of the pacific so we could hear the soviet subs coming. SOSUS? Yes, its still running, although its run by the UK, Norway, and the US. The pacific one isn't as precise and the altlantic one for obvious reasons. (Size, and strategic importance) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewb99 0 Posted June 1, 2003 I'm not so sure about cloud seeding being outlawed, I recall a few news articles about little single-engined planes in Iowa and that area dropping pebbles of iodine into clouds to make it rain during that drought from a year or two ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted June 1, 2003 It might be a European thing then. I now for certain its illegal in the UK. Too many people died from mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites