Cuba

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

I am working on a Cuban island, and I was wondering what textures I should use to do the island with. Everon, Malden, Kolgurev, maybe the Ia Trang valley if it is allright with select this?

Maybe tavorish can help?

[SFG 1]

Nice island, looks good in form

[CanadianTerror 0]

Making Cuba is a great idea.

The problem is that there are no Cuban troops out there to place on the map.

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hit_Sqd_Maximus @ 08 May 2003,03:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am working on a Cuban island, and I was wondering what textures I should use to do the island with. Everon, Malden, Kolgurev, maybe the Ia Trang valley if it is allright with select this?<span id='postcolor'>

Looks really nice! Textures...ummm Definitely not Kolguev, there are some pine trees in Cuba but not that many...you'd want a lot of palm trees, banana plants, sugar cane fields, tall grass...in some places the vegetation might look a bit like Ia Trang - such as the Sierra Maestra (the south-western mountainous region where the Revolution began), but I definitely wouldn't make the whole island like that...so, no easy answer really...for best results I'd say make whole new textures for it, otherwise i'd say Everon would be acceptable.

But hey, as long as you get the terrain features (and as I understand you have acces to a topographical map to do that) and the locations of the main cities and such, I'm more than happy that this is being made

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The problem is that there are no Cuban troops out there to place on the map.

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Resistance units would be pretty good for that

[SpeedyDonkey 0]

Maximus, im glad you are doing Cuba! Im really looking forward for this

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ 08 May 2003,05:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But hey, as long as you get the terrain features (and as I understand you have acces to a topographical map to do that) and the locations of the main cities and such, I'm more than happy that this is being made <span id='postcolor'>

Yes, I got the map from the national geographic you sent me, that helped a lot. However, I was not able to turn it into a grayscale map and then import it into wilbur, there was 500 foot spikes in the air so I had to just take the map, save it as 256x256 with photoshop and then import it into wilbur and made the island while keeping the map in the background. So I have mountains and stuff were there are mountains in the real cuba, but I'm not sure how satisfactory it would be.

I found this one texture on malden that was a dark green and looked pretty jungle like, I think it was used for the forest floor areas in malden?

[LaPoi 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ 08 May 2003,05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">no Cuban troops out there to place on the map.<span id='postcolor'>

Or you could wait for Bimini's South American soldiers.

[Milkman 1]

Tropical Malden? It has palm trees...

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

There was a jungle malden?

I remember a Jungle everon, do you think this would work just as well for textures and plant objects?

Here is a new SS in wrp

[CanadianTerror 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or you could wait for Bimini's South American soldiers.<span id='postcolor'>Im still waiting for version 2 of Bibmi's African militia  

But ya, I had forgotten about that....so good stuff  

I'm hoping someone makes some actual Cuban troops though as that would be da bomb for missions!

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CanadianTerror @ 09 May 2003,03:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm hoping someone makes some actual Cuban troops though as that would be da bomb for missions!<span id='postcolor'>

Well, in case anyone is interested in making some to go with this island, here's some stuff to go by:

Assorted Troops:

Camilitos (youth Military Cadets)

Special Forces

I'll post some Rebel Batista-era pics later.

[CuteQA 0]

Is there jungle in Cuba???

[Tovarish 0]

Rebel Flag

Also worn as an armband:

Big Images - black and white unfortunately, but Cuban Rebels wore olive uniforms (if not civilian clothes)

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delaco....-26.gif

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delaco....-18.gif

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/cuban-rebels/revolutionaries.gif

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/cuban-rebels/che-garcia.jpg

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delaco....s-2.gif

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delaco....-21.gif

Unfortunately, pictures of Batista's forces seem damn near impossible to find, but they wore Khaki uniforms with US WW2 - style helmets

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

Picture somewere at this link

hehe is that Castro in his teens?    

[ralphwiggum 6]

eh, like the photo with the big machete. I have (or used to) that taste for swordsmanship.

and is that a APC on fire?

[Tovarish 0]

No, but This is a younger castro

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">eh, like the photo with the big machete. I have (or used to) that taste for swordsmanship.

and is that a APC on fire?

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Well, after all, machetes is what the first rebels used to fight the Spanish.The burning apc looks to me like a BRDM...or on second thought I'm pretty sure it's a BTR. Probably just set the outside of it alight for the exercise.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is there jungle in Cuba??? <span id='postcolor'>

No not really, mostly tropical and subtropical forest and farmland.

In case anyone's interested, a good resource on the Cuban revolution:

*edit* Bah Screw it, some of it is more graphic than I thought. PM me if you want it

[GoOB 0]

Yay Cuba! You should get in touch with "La Revolution mod" I am a "part" of the team but i haven't done squat (well i cant ) Also for units you might mix some NAM pack helmets in with some new civilian clothes (unbuttoned shirts, slack pants and the like) With some dirt on. And for "junta" units or what ever they should be called remodelled RES units would do like removing the backpacks and changing their CPP's to carry FAL's and assorted WW2 weapons instead. Looking forward to the island mate!

[SpeedyDonkey 0]

Any chanse we could see a mini Havana?

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpeedyDonkey @ 09 May 2003,19:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any chanse we could see a mini Havana? <span id='postcolor'>

I was thinking of making it look similar to the capial city in nogova (is it lipany?) With the brick roads with several small towns.

[SpeedyDonkey 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hit_Sqd_Maximus @ 09 May 2003,21:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpeedyDonkey @ 09 May 2003,19:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any chanse we could see a mini Havana? <span id='postcolor'>

I was thinking of making it look similar to the capial city in nogova (is it lipany?) With the brick roads with several small towns.<span id='postcolor'>

Sounds good to mee

[GoOB 0]

That sounds really good, with a few two story apartment buildings mixed with some of them goverment buildings. And the size of Lipany would suit it good. And also when and if you make a runway dont use the runway textures that are on Malden,Everon and Nogova maybe some more old pre-jet textures.

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

Hm...... is it possible to add res objects w/ wrp edit? I havent been able to figure that out

Is there any pre jet runway textures?

[ralphwiggum 6]

i don't think Cuba is that outdated place.

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

They have migs 21's dont they?

I was thinking about 2-3 large airbases in the right places(Tavorish sent me a map w/ a list of all of the airports on the island) and a small dirt runway for cessnas like on north western malden.

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ 11 May 2003,02:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i don't think Cuba is that outdated place. <span id='postcolor'>

Cuba is an interesting place in that you see the most modern things right beside some things that seem right out of the middle ages. "Old Havana" has buildings that are over 200 years old. On the roads you'll see anything from 1950's American cars, to 1970's Russian Ladas to brand new Japanese cars (rentals for tourists mostly) as well as people on bicycles and horseback, but no, it is definitely not outdated in general, the main airports  for example are very modern.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They have migs 21's dont they?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes, MiG-17's and MiG-21's which are now used as trainers, and MiG-23's, and MiG-29's that are used for actual missions. Believe it or not Cuba has the best equipped military in Latin America. A few years ago I heard that they were negotiating with Russia to update some of their fighters and gunship helicopters to the latest standards, but don't know what actually came of that.

*edit* Multirole versions of the MiG-23 as opposed to the MiG-27

BTW, in the way of tanks, you'd be looking at a handful of IS-2 and late model T-34's, 1100 T-55's (many modernized with additional armour, lazer targetting equipment, ect) and 400 T-62's (also modernized) as well as some PT-76 amphibious tanks