Just thinking

[Polishdude 0]

I think the uniforms of the spec ops from the ofp cwc suck! I mean the black one is sort of ok, for nights but its too dark enemys can see you. And for the day one, i mean tats not a special forces soldier. . The spetz natz are kinda kool.

I just hope that Bis fixes this thing in OFP2 Can't wait!!!

P.s. I am no fashion police but the comofluged uniforms , Suck.

[theavonlady 2]

I am very happy with OFP's standard units.

However, I think I can diagnose your negative opinion as the result of some fantastic unofficial unit addons that have been released to the community. Just one look at the BAS Delta and Ranger units and we've become spoiled - happily so.

So, there's no question that BIS' could have been better. But I don't regret for a moment to continue to play missions that use the standard OFP unit.

[ralphwiggum 6]

more like General Topic thread.

moving.

[Polishdude 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ April 13 2003,08:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think I can diagnose your negative opinion as the result of some fantastic unofficial unit addons that have been released to the community. Just one look at the BAS Delta and Ranger units and we've become spoiled - happily so. <span id='postcolor'>

Every time i download theaddon to my addon files it doesn't work!But anyway, When OFp2 i hope they'll have all the worlds unit lookin as real as they possibly can. Perphaps i need to go to options and enhance my video visual effect, lol

[IceFire 0]

I think it depends on what kind of units the "Black Ops" really are.

I'm pretty sure they are Army "Special Forces" since they say so in the game.

But in general Special Forces work in small groups, not alone.

I think the "Black Ops" are a very specific specialized unit created out of the Special Forces group.

Therefore it would be difficult to determine what their normal combat uniforms look like.

But for most situations, standard camoflauge works fine.

That's why nearly all units, regular infantry or Specal Operations wear them.

It blends in well with the color of the foliage, and works well day or night.

I think it's odd that they wear those dark black uniforms though.

That is pretty unusual. Dark black is rarely worn as a way of concealment into the darkness as since dark black stands out even in the darkest nights.

Dark grey, blue, or green would be a better choice.

[-TU--33ker 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm pretty sure they are Army "Special Forces" since they say so in the game.

<span id='postcolor'>

i can remember that Col. Blake once said "Commander Gastovski" in a cutscene. so maybe he is a Navy SEAL??

[Messiah 2]

remember the film 'the rock'?

when Ed harris goes - 'i was running black ops in china while you were still in nappies'

he was a navy seal... i think

[Major Gripe 0]

Actually spec ops forces do wear black but only during hostage rescue situations and not for camouflage. Apparently by wearing black it gives the troopers a psychological edge over their opponents, as black is perceived as the colour of evil. By wearing it the soldier subconsciously believes himself to be more powerful and therefore better prepared for the operation. Basically it gives him a PMA, Positive Mental Attitude!!

Look at these pics from op Nimrod where the SAS stormed the Iranian Embassy in April 1980.

Assaulters moving into position on the roof

Closeup view

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Gripe @ April 13 2003,13:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Closeup view<span id='postcolor'>

God, that's ugly, lol

[-TU--33ker 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ April 13 2003,15:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Gripe @ April 13 2003,13:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Closeup view<span id='postcolor'>

God, that's ugly, lol<span id='postcolor'>

that's CS mate!

[IceFire 0]

"i can remember that Col. Blake once said "Commander Gastovski" in a cutscene. so maybe he is a Navy SEAL??" ---- Quote by [TU]$33ker

In the cutscene where Col. Blake promotes Armstrong to Leutanant, he introduces Gastovski as "Special Forces". Special Forces is only one unit, that's Army Special Forces.

All the rest are "Special Operations Units".

"remember the film 'the rock'?

when Ed harris goes - 'i was running black ops in china while you were still in nappies'

he was a navy seal... i think" ---- Quote by Messiah

Hmm, I think Ed Harris was definitely NOT a SEAL in that movie. I'm pretty sure he was Marine Force Recon.

[LowLevelFunctionary 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 13 2003,17:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"i can remember that Col. Blake once  said "Commander Gastovski" in a cutscene. so maybe he is a Navy SEAL??" ---- Quote by [TU]$33ker

In the cutscene where Col. Blake promotes Armstrong to Leutanant, he introduces Gastovski as "Special Forces".    Special Forces is only one unit, that's Army Special Forces.

All the rest are "Special Operations Units".

"remember the film 'the rock'?

when Ed harris goes - 'i was running black ops in china while you were still in nappies'

he was a navy seal... i think" ---- Quote by Messiah

Hmm, I think Ed Harris was definitely NOT a SEAL in that movie.  I'm pretty sure he was Marine Force Recon.<span id='postcolor'>

Is Ed harris the guy with the long hair at the start? lol sorry havent seen the film in ages

[SFG 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LowLevelFunctionary @ April 15 2003,00:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 13 2003,170)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"i can remember that Col. Blake once  said "Commander Gastovski" in a cutscene. so maybe he is a Navy SEAL??" ---- Quote by [TU]$33ker

In the cutscene where Col. Blake promotes Armstrong to Leutanant, he introduces Gastovski as "Special Forces".    Special Forces is only one unit, that's Army Special Forces.

All the rest are "Special Operations Units".

"remember the film 'the rock'?

when Ed harris goes - 'i was running black ops in china while you were still in nappies'

he was a navy seal... i think" ---- Quote by Messiah

Hmm, I think Ed Harris was definitely NOT a SEAL in that movie.  I'm pretty sure he was Marine Force Recon.<span id='postcolor'>

Is Ed harris the guy with the long hair at the start? lol sorry havent seen the film in ages<span id='postcolor'>

No thats connery!

[ralphwiggum 6]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LowLevelFunctionary @ April 15 2003,00:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is Ed harris the guy with the long hair at the start? lol sorry havent seen the film in ages<span id='postcolor'>

Blashpemy!

no, the leader of those who took over Alcatraz. he has only a small amount of hair.

[LowLevelFunctionary 0]

ohhh right him! thanks. Only saw the movie once when it was released. Great film though

[-TU--33ker 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (IceFire @ April 13 2003,17:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"i can remember that Col. Blake once  said "Commander Gastovski" in a cutscene. so maybe he is a Navy SEAL??" ---- Quote by [TU]$33ker

In the cutscene where Col. Blake promotes Armstrong to Leutanant, he introduces Gastovski as "Special Forces".    Special Forces is only one unit, that's Army Special Forces.

All the rest are "Special Operations Units".

"remember the film 'the rock'?

when Ed harris goes - 'i was running black ops in china while you were still in nappies'

he was a navy seal... i think" ---- Quote by Messiah

Hmm, I think Ed Harris was definitely NOT a SEAL in that movie.  I'm pretty sure he was Marine Force Recon.<span id='postcolor'>

this still doesn't explain why he called him "Commander"!

[Major Gripe 0]

Please tell me that was sarcasm calling it a 'great' movie!! I cannot believe that the FBI and the SEALs in that movie could be so stupidly incompetent. I know its an action movie so didn't expect any witty or clever dialogue but the filler lines in between the action sequences particularly the attempts at comedy were to be frank, painful.

Any back on topic; didn't the SEALs that went into Alcatraz wear black ninja suits? Do the SEALs actually use that James Bondesque underwater car in real life?

Answers on a postcard please!!

[N.o.R.S.u 0]

Never mind the pic wont work.....

[Skul 0]

Does it really matter how the uniforms look? Personally, I didn't give a second thought to the Black Op outfit. I thought it looked fine...

[-TU--33ker 0]

i don't really think BIS had a special unit in mind during the creation of OFP's BlackOps, or even the standart Infantry units. they mixed everything, Rangers, Seals, Deltas,...

[suchey 0]

maybe he was a CIA operative

[hellfish6 7]

Yeah, I was under the impression that Gastovski was CIA.

[Polishdude 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Skul @ April 16 2003,15:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Does it really matter how the uniforms look? Personally, I didn't give a second thought to the Black Op outfit. I thought it looked fine...<span id='postcolor'>

Well gosh they really do first of all its a militay simulator supposed to be almost real. Second do you want to be shot quicker?

[JJonth Cheeky Monkey 1]

I didn't know that spec ops were limited to the kind of uniforms they wear. Does it have to be special kit with a label on the inside saying "for special forces use only". The black op day kit is fine, they only made it different to the standard soldier to make it look different. What do you think they should be wearing?

[-TU--33ker 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cheeky monkey @ April 17 2003,15:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I didn't know that spec ops were limited to the kind of uniforms they wear. Does it have to be special kit with a label on the inside saying "for special forces use only". The black op day kit is fine, they only made it different to the standard soldier to make it look different. What do you think they should be wearing?<span id='postcolor'>

i think they look fine.

the day BDU is even looking better than the standart infantry uniform because it hasn't this roll on the back.