Ofp's m2a2 bradley in the light of the iraq war

[Paladin 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also mentioned is that RPGs are all amphibious (in one convoluted way or another), whereas OFP's sinks like lead.

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RPG's being amphibious?!?!

[~Too Tall~ 0]

my M2A2 Project has been transfered to a very well known, and very powerful addon maker. all the goodies will be installed, animated ramp, tow launcher, different camo, the works. and yes an M6 version, an M2A3 version if im not mistakin. and whatever else the brandly fans desire. i cannont and will not disclose any name(s) [if i did id have to kill you until you die from it] of who is doing this project. but im sure when its done u will love it

[Cloney 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ April 08 2003,19:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe part of the problem is that AT weapons in OFP are too accurate. I think we've all hit moving BMPs from 2-300m with a LAW or RPG-29, right? I don't think this is very realistic. These rockets do not have the pinpoint accuracy that they have been modelled with.

Have any of you tried the LAWs from the SEB Nam Pack 2? Imagine my suprise and horror when I found out that they were modelled correctly... as a T-55 100m away charged down on my squad and my LAW veered off to the right.<span id='postcolor'>

I made an ambush mission on the Mogadishu map where some Marines are ambushed, their Bradley begins gunning down the militiamen. The African Militia guys, with HD values and low skill often miss with their RPGs, some explode very close, others appear to hit the wall behind the vehicle.

However, when the Brad DOES take a hit it goes BOOM. I'm guessing most of the explosions are from HE Bushmaste rounds cooking off.

BTW, I know the Marines don't use Brads, there just aren't any LAVs for OFP.

[GrimmDraco 0]

So here I am sitting on CQ duty, bored out of my mind, and I thought maybe I could add some pictures I took of the Bradleys from my motorpool so here ya go, enjoy!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Too-Tall-Files/IMG_0025.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Too-Tall-Files/IMG_0022.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Too-Tall-Files/IMG_0036.jpg

[VXR 9]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (whisperFFW06 @ April 08 2003,18:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RavenDK @ April 08 2003,17:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">    well ill be damned  

any way from what the birds in the woods sing there is a M2A2 on its way, but what do i know   <span id='postcolor'>

That's EXCELLENT news

If I can ask, which version(s)? M6 too?<span id='postcolor'>

*Vixer looks on the list*

uuhm if its this one

M6 Bradley Linebacker

o M242 25mm Cannon 600-900 rds

o M240 7.62mm 1340-3600 rds

o FIM-92 x 4 Launcher + x10 Re-loads

probaly yes then

[Vegabond 0]

Would be nice if they made the the IFV and CFV addons, the latest ones..

Specially the scout one...

[dm 9]

You mean these versions?

- M2 A3 Bradley IFV

o        M242 25mm Cannon 600-900 rds

o        M240 7.62mm 1340-3600 rds

o        TOW x 2

o        Carries 7 Fully loaded Troops

- M3 Bradley CFV

o        M242 25mm Cannon 600-900 rds

o        M240 7.62mm 1340-3600 rds

o        TOW x 2 Launcher + 4 Re-loads

o        Internally carried Ammo and weapons

o        Carries 3 Fully loaded Troops (Max)

- M6 Bradley Linebacker

o        M242 25mm Cannon 600-900 rds

o        M240 7.62mm 1340-3600 rds

o        FIM-92 x 4 Launcher + x10 Re-loads

o        Carries 0 Troops

would be great to see these in the game

[dkraver 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (~Too Tall~ @ April 08 2003,20:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if i did id have to kill you until you die from it<span id='postcolor'>

Before i take this threat serious i need to know something. Are you related in anyway with Mohammed Saeed Al-Sahaf

the iraqi information minister??        

[dm 9]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dkraver @ April 08 2003,22:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (~Too Tall~ @ April 08 2003,20:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if i did id have to kill you until you die from it<span id='postcolor'>

Before i take this threat serious i need to know something. Are you related in anyway with Mohammed Saeed Al-Sahaf

the iraqi information minister??        <span id='postcolor'>

bwahahahahahahahahahaha... thats funny stuff dkraver...

He really has got to stop lieing... i mean "we pushed the Americans out of Baghdad, they are no longer in Baghdad!"

*convoy of about 20 Abrams rolls past the windows*

"The Americans are not in Baghdad, we were victorious in defeating them"

yeah right...

[~Too Tall~ 0]

i had to laugh when he said in "we have total control of saddam airport" and meanwhile they are firing mortors and arty on that same airport....and i as well as all of the citizens are wondering.. if the americans arent at the airport and iraqis have control of it (suppoedly) then umm why are you still shooting at it?

PS no the threat wasnt serious

[iNeo 0]

Hey don't go off-topic or the thread = closed So, Whis', who's it going with your M2A2?

[CanadianTerror 0]

I see a great halloween costume idea though!

[Apollo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I'm actually amazed that we haven't lost more Bradleys during the incursions into the center of Baghdad.  The Iraqi anti-tank teams must be really inept at staging tank ambushes as even the M1 tank can have it's tracks blown off and RPG shots from upper floors of buildings should be able to penetrate areas around the hatches and other areas of the M1.  The Chechnyans were masters at tank killing during the various Russian assaults on the city of  Grozny.  Apparently the Iraqis really did not prepare very much for urban warfare in the same way that the Chechnyans did. <span id='postcolor'>

Actually ,the Chechens use an other tactic to take out tanks.They lay an big amount of explosives near a road where they suspect armor or supply's to come by, and they strap an ignition with a GSM to activate it.They wait in a building not far from the ambush place overlooking it ,and when they see armor come by they just give the bomb a phonecall.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Apollo @ April 09 2003,01:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I'm actually amazed that we haven't lost more Bradleys during the incursions into the center of Baghdad.  The Iraqi anti-tank teams must be really inept at staging tank ambushes as even the M1 tank can have it's tracks blown off and RPG shots from upper floors of buildings should be able to penetrate areas around the hatches and other areas of the M1.  The Chechnyans were masters at tank killing during the various Russian assaults on the city of  Grozny.  Apparently the Iraqis really did not prepare very much for urban warfare in the same way that the Chechnyans did. <span id='postcolor'>

Actually ,the Chechens use an other tactic to take out tanks.They lay an big amount of explosives near a road where they suspect armor or supply's to come by, and they strap an ignition with a GSM to activate it.They wait in a building not far from the ambush place overlooking it ,and when they see armor come by they just give the bomb a phonecall.  <span id='postcolor'>

That is one of the tactics they use. I mainly was refering to the urban combat in Grozny.

Here's a good source of info on the RPG-7 including its usage by the Chechnyans in the tank killing role: http://www.g2mil.com/RPG.htm

I still have a hard time believing that it can't penetrate a Bradley unless the latest Bradleys have some really hi-tech composite or depleted uranium applique armor. As far as what someone said about ERA being dangerous for infantrymen, I agree, but it hasn't stopped the Israeli IDF from using it on their Zelda APC's.

Whatever the case, the RPG-7 has been shown to be a proven tank killer any many conflicts all over the world, which is why I think that the Iraqis must be really poorly trained or our forces are just very very good at urban warfare. I think it's most likely a combination of both factors. At any rate,

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[whisperFFW06 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ April 09 2003,00:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey don't go off-topic or the thread = closed So, Whis', who's it going with your M2A2?<span id='postcolor'>

Well...

Seems that real specialists are on it. A3, M6, that's all that was missing.

/me bows humbly

[PFC_Mike 2]

Which M2/M3/M6 versions are you making as in...

M2

M2A1

M2A2

there are some major differences, if you'd like I can scan and mail a few hundred photos from the Squadron/Signal reference book.

Also, could you have animations for the TOW launcher raising?

[~Too Tall~ 0]

umm dude if you bothered to read my post you would see that i said the new bradly in progress will have animated TOW launcher, animated ramp, fixed drivers hatch, and many other goodies

[19kilo2/10Cav 0]

While I was in the service ('89-'91) the Bradley was very weak and we heard reports that 7.62 mm rounds would penetrate the side armor. I didn't actually see it but all of the Mech Inf guys I knew preferred the M113 due to the Bradley's weak armor, I even heard that some felt safer inthe Kevlar skinned Hummers. In those days a friggin slingshot might take out a Bradley.

While I was in the Gulf, my M-1 took a direct frontal hit from a T-72 and the round bounced off. At that time our sabot rounds were so powerful we resorted to using heat rounds.....the 120mm heat will knock a turret off of a T-72.

We took several RPG hits to our turret and it did not do any damage to the M-1; the major damage that occured to the vehicle I was in was when we drove over a mine. It blew the track and two roadwheels off, but the ballistic skirts were not damaged. It was my opinion then that the skirts contained depleted uranium which is a very very good armor.

If DU has been added to the Bradley it would easily take a hit from an RPG (by the way the grenades dont always explode) and probaly larger weapons would be required to incapitate it.

[Mr. Snrub 0]

Sefe (I think that's his name) released a M3 Bradley and M6 Linebacker a while back...I'll post a link to it if I can find it...

Nothing changed model or texture-wise (except a retextured TOW launcher on the M6; changed to resemble a FIM-92 launcher) to the BIS M2A2, but the M3 carried more ammunition and had less room for troops, and the M6 had a pretty effective Stinger launcher.

A new Bradley pack (with new animations, sounds, textures etc.) would be better though - we need at least a half-decent desert textured Bradley to simulate the current war

[~Too Tall~ 0]

that marrfy textures M2A2 i got from...garritos i belive is pretty nicely textured

cept there is a bit of a texture LOD problem. as with all of marffys textures... liek his desert soldies appere all white if ur more then 200m away.. his abrams and hummer the textures get all funky at more then 200 m away blah blah u know they drill there(not tryin to be mean or nothing jsut a heads up)

[the nutcracker 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ April 08 2003,23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey don't go off-topic or the thread = closed So, Whis', who's it going with your M2A2?<span id='postcolor'>

Hmm both Vixer and Deadmeat both had a 'list', wonder who could be making the M2A2's??

Let me think

[dm 9]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (the nutcracker @ April 09 2003,09:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hmm both Vixer and Deadmeat both had a 'list', wonder who could be making the M2A2's??

Let me think <span id='postcolor'>

Don't want to spoil your fun, but that is just a reference list from www.fas.org...

All BAS memebers use it as a key reference point, as it is very accurate and informative...

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DeadMeatXM2 @ April 09 2003,12:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't want to spoil your fun, but that is just a reference list from www.fas.org...<span id='postcolor'>

[Jamesia 0]

I dont like the ofp bradley that much.

and i tend not to use it.

Only because that cannon is SO good against infantry. I dont like that. I would use it more if its cannon was less powerful. It just seems too good against infantry.

[Cloney 0]

The Brad is almost on par with the BMP, anything is better than an M113.