Swedish forces pack

[smogmorph 0]

Just wondering.. This pack came from Operation Whitenight, right?

[KeyCat 131]

Nice work granQ, shar.... Will do some co-op missions using them but it have to wait until I'm finished with current co-op.

FWIW - I agree with Blake and others that they should be named in English so everyone can use them. Imagine trying to use Blakes and Kegety's great addons if they only where available in Finnish. I mean just try to pronounce "Kyllikki" the way it should be  

/Christer (a.k.a KeyCat)

[Sole 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (smogmorph @ Dec. 21 2002,14:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just wondering.. This pack came from Operation Whitenight, right?<span id='postcolor'>

not at all, it came from Shar and granQ and some other peepz

I really like the pack, and even though i'm not swedish (not even scandinavian), I like the swedish names instead of the english ones

[Antaris 0]

No, Smogmorph this pack comes from.. well.. mainly a bunch of guys from SSG squad but several others (no, im not included ) i duno what they should call them self. SwePack Mod, maybe (hence from their IRC channel Name) anyways, happy XMas  

EDIT, darn sole beat me too it

[smogmorph 0]

Silly me    

They should hook up with the Whitenight crew though

[Antaris 0]

and may i ask why?

[smogmorph 0]

Because they're good

[Antaris 0]

Yes, they are but that doesnt mean that Swedish Forces Pack (Full mod name) has too hook up with them, now does it? or do you mean that you are unsatisfied with the SFP mod?

[smogmorph 0]

Err.. no

I just want the Whitenight mod to be finished sometime before I die of age, and those 2 could probably support it in some way

[ugga 0]

Most of us were in the original OWN crew

[granQ 293]

One thing about the names. It is now like 8 diffrent types (MAX) and all can be found under men (swedish) so it can't be that hard. I understand that if you only play a little while or join a sever your mind can go "wtf is a soldier?".. but i can't see it would be such great problem and i still say it is mostly a swedish mod.

But i was thinking of a nordic mod. Like we are some in sweden doing swedish work, research and stuff. I know there are some in finland, and denmark, norway should be able to gather some people too. Then it would be possible to give players more, and bringen them the nordic armies. just thinking out loud...thanks for all replies and stuff. It really fun to see people notice your work.

and for the "cooperate with operation white night" me and mellis has talked but nothing decided. Time will tell whats happens.

[engen 0]

Hello all,

Making an english version of the pack would require some work, but we'll look into it, as Gran says we made it in swedish first, seeing we didn't imagine anyone else downloading it. But if there's a demand for it, I reckon it can be fixed, some way or the other.

However, to the reason for my post;

We have done a Strf90 IFV(CV90, used by Sweden, Norway, Finland and some other countries) model, now none of us in the team are really good at skinning, so we are in need of assistance. Any kind of help is deeply appreciated.

Pics:

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_cv9040_2.jpg

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_cv9040.jpg

You can mail/icq/irc us,

Mail: shar@loadmail.com, granquist@telia.com

ICQ: 69281227, 7869782

IRC: #swepack on Quakenet

Mods, sorry for posting such a request here, but we've got quite alot of community response here so this would be the natural place for people to check.

[mads bahrt 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GranQ @ Dec. 21 2002,18:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One thing about the names. It is now like 8 diffrent types (MAX) and all can be found under men (swedish) so it can't be that hard. I understand that if you only play a little while or join a sever your mind can go "wtf is a soldier?".. but i can't see it would be such great problem and i still say it is mostly a swedish mod.

But i was thinking of a nordic mod. Like we are some in sweden doing swedish work, research and stuff. I know there are some in finland, and denmark, norway should be able to gather some people too. Then it would be possible to give players more, and bringen them the nordic armies. just thinking out loud...thanks for all replies and stuff. It really fun to see people notice your work.

and for the "cooperate with operation white night" me and mellis has talked but nothing decided. Time will tell whats happens.<span id='postcolor'>

I'm really impressed with what you've made. I know Frandsen, who among other things are making the danish mod DDAM and i've suggested him that he talked to you since:

- Your AT4 (Panserskott m/86 or in denmark known as panservćrnsvĺben m/95) it cooler and more accurately modeling the real thing than the one i DDAM right now. I like the fact that it doesnt take up more than two slots in the inventory since it's not uncommom to carry two of these and 6 mags.

- Your Carl Gustav (GRG m/48) also closer to the real one than the one in the game since the shooter can carry 2 grenades which is quite normal IRL. I also like the fact that you've made both AP and HE rounds for it - lik IRL. Have you thought about making light grenades and smoke grenades too? Maybe the HE is a little too powerfull - i took out a whole russian group (with the exception off 1 man) with one shot - im not sure if this is realistic, but im not trained on this weapon myself, so i can't judge om this.

- Your m45b is ok. i did notice a problem consisting of the fact that i can't hit while "aiming" (key v), but i hit very easy while shooting from normal view.

It might be because the model used in denmark is slightly different, but the front sighting aid is different from the one i've seen in denmark (otherwise the same weapon).

Generally i like that you correct the errors that BIS made in the game - grenades only taking one slot instead of two etc. It might tilt the balance a little, but i really hate the fact that im not able to take two grenades for the carl gustav in the game, when i can IRL. So keep up the good work.

Suggestions: Put extra ammo for the groups weapons in the PBV501.

And make the ranks realistic. I am sure that captains don't lead infantry groups even in Sweden... The leader should be a sergant, if sweden follows the pattern from the rest of the world.

You might want to consider putting your units under resistance instead to reflect the fact that Sweden is neutral. In that way it will be more easy to simulate both a border conflict with norway/denmark and a full scale soviet invasion.

Mads

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And by the way - your standard group can't fit inside their vehicle. Is that how it is in Sweden - the last two men doubletiming behind the vehicle? Or do you just squeeze two more into the vehicle? Or is the group in the game larger than IRL?

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[granQ 293]

mads bahrt thank you very much for your feed-back. Frandsen is more than welcome to use our pskott, seeing we used his AT4 as a basis for our pskott, in the end though we ended up with a brand new weapon short of a small pipe. The m45:ans "not hit where i aim in scope view" i haven't checked so can't say. Will check it now. The scope itself are wrong and we will fix it, don't worry. Right now it is the same scope as the filo m45:a since we got it from hubba and used it. The HE's power i am not sure, it is a matter of tweaking, and like you i have no real life experice of it. But main purpose was a way to take on soft targets, like convoy with trucks. then it is great. Was thinking of smoke and a flare one, but don't know if i could make it to work. Will look into it later.

The ammo in the pbv is fixed, so will be in next update amongst some new stuff. For the ranks i just copied the group from DKM patria and changed to swedish. Just before release someone thought of the group so i threw it in without thinking of ranks. But sure i can change it to more true ranks.

but once again i wonder why i don't hear any other voices about a swedish/denmark/finland mod.. or atleast cooperation. Like the cv90 is used by all three countries (i think), the MBT is the same. Not sure about denmark. but sweden uses some of those sisu/patria vehicles...

[mads bahrt 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (GranQ @ Dec. 23 2002,00:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but once again i wonder why i don't hear any other voices about a swedish/denmark/finland mod.. or atleast cooperation. Like the cv90 is used by all three countries (i think), the MBT is the same. Not sure about denmark. but sweden uses some of those sisu/patria vehicles...<span id='postcolor'>

Denmark doesn't have the CV90 (unfortunately - cool vehicle), were still using M113 and have a limited number of 8x8 Piranhas. We have the Leopard 2 like you, but only around 70 - the bulk of our armor is Leopard 1. We've rented a small number of Sisu's from Finland for use as ambulances in kosovo and bosnia.

[Lt_Dan_Sweden 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mads bahrt @ Dec. 22 2002,23:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">..it's not uncommom to carry two of these (AT4s) and 6 mags.

- Your Carl Gustav (GRG m/48) also closer to the real one than the one in the game since the shooter can carry 2 grenades which is quite normal IRL.<span id='postcolor'>

Mads Bahrt you must be a really big guy.

I weigh 90 kgs and have been trained and trained others on both these weapons. I would not consider the weapon load you describe as normal.

Each AT4 weighs 6,7 Kg.

Carl Gustav weighs 14,2 Kgs empty.

Every grenade weighs ca 3,5 kgs.

On top of that you have your Assult rifle which weighs some 4,5 kgs including one mag. Each extra mag weighs around 0,6 kg.

Maybe if you are using armour to carry you into battle, your load would do, but using regular foot infantry, that humps several klicks per day....

My opinion regarding capacity of GRG in OFP.

GRG shooter should only be able to carry the launcher plus one grenade.

There should be a designated GRG-loader, which carries 4 or 6 GRG grenades. 4 if he can move fast and 6 if the sprint function is turned off.

Hmm

Changed my mind.

If the OFP soldier can carry 4 mines á 10 kgs and sprint so why not sprint with 6 GRG grenades anyway.

[dkraver 1]

3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lt_Dan_Sweden @ Dec. 23 2002,143)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mads bahrt @ Dec. 22 2002,23:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">..it's not uncommom to carry two of these (AT4s) and 6 mags.

- Your Carl Gustav (GRG m/48) also closer to the real one than the one in the game since the shooter can carry 2 grenades which is quite normal IRL.<span id='postcolor'>

Mads Bahrt you must be a really big guy.

I weigh 90 kgs and have been trained and trained others on both these weapons. I would not consider the weapon load you describe as normal.

Each AT4 weighs 6,7 Kg.

Carl Gustav weighs 14,2 Kgs empty.

Every grenade weighs ca 3,5 kgs.

On top of that you have your Assult rifle which weighs some 4,5 kgs including one mag. Each extra mag weighs around 0,6 kg.

Maybe if you are using armour to carry you into battle, your load would do, but using regular foot infantry, that humps several klicks per day....

My opinion regarding capacity of GRG in OFP.

GRG shooter should only be able to carry the launcher plus one grenade.

There should be a designated GRG-loader, which carries 4 or 6 GRG grenades. 4 if he can move fast and 6 if the sprint function is turned off.

Hmm

Changed my mind.

If the OFP soldier can carry 4 mines á 10 kgs and sprint so why not sprint with 6 GRG grenades anyway.<span id='postcolor'>

In the danish army its common (walking around, Patrols) to have a guy carry one at-4 and have another one in a vehicle (APC or other) In case of combat he will take both of them with him if his near or in the vehicle.

AT gunner (Carl Gustav) Carries his rifle (C7 with Elcan Optical sight) 5 mags where one is in the rifle and two grenades in a backpack made to fit the grenade canisters. The AT helper will carry up to 6 grenades including his own equipment. 2 in a backpack similar to the gunners, and a canister with two grenades in, in each hand. Depending on which kind of group your in (infantry, scouts and so on) the vehicle will have a different amount grenades in up to 4 different ammunition types. AT, AP, light and smoke.

[mads bahrt 0]

3--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lt_Dan_Sweden @ Dec. 23 2002,143)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mads bahrt @ Dec. 22 2002,23:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">..it's not uncommom to carry two of these (AT4s) and 6 mags.

- Your Carl Gustav (GRG m/48) also closer to the real one than the one in the game since the shooter can carry 2 grenades which is quite normal IRL.<span id='postcolor'>

Mads Bahrt you must be a really big guy.

I weigh 90 kgs and have been trained and trained others on both these weapons. I would not consider the weapon load you describe as normal.

Each AT4 weighs 6,7 Kg.

Carl Gustav weighs 14,2 Kgs empty.

Every grenade weighs ca 3,5 kgs.

On top of that you have your Assult rifle which weighs some 4,5 kgs including one mag. Each extra mag weighs around 0,6 kg.

Maybe if you are using armour to carry you into battle, your load would do, but using regular foot infantry, that humps several klicks per day....

My opinion regarding capacity of GRG in OFP.

GRG shooter should only be able to carry the launcher plus one grenade.

There should be a designated GRG-loader, which carries 4 or 6 GRG grenades. 4 if he can move fast and 6 if the sprint function is turned off.

Hmm

Changed my mind.

If the OFP soldier can carry 4 mines á 10 kgs and sprint so why not sprint with 6 GRG grenades anyway.<span id='postcolor'>

I'm not that big - when i served in the danish army i weighed between 90 and 100 kg.

I was trained on the AT4 too. And its not that big a problem to run around with two AT4's on your back. It's not easy - but not impossible. The GRG gunners in my platoon did carry two rounds. The loader then carried 4-6 rounds. They were heavyly loaded but they managed to make it work. The new M3 variety of the Carl Gustav only weighs 8.5 kg.

As to whether it is possible to carry 4 mines at 10 kg each IRL - no problem: When laying minefields by hand (was a combat engineer) i usually picked up 6 mines of 10 kg kg each. To be true - you can't run more than a few hundred metres at full speed, and you've got your rifle on your back so you can't shoot while doing this. In comparison if one of your buddies got wounded you might have to carry him out on your back - and most soldiers with combat equipment weighs more than 100 kg.

I do like your idea of removing the sprint capability, since it is not possible to achieve the same speed loaded with the equipment discussed above, as without it.

[dkraver 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @ Dec. 21 2002,14:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just put something like...

SWE Jaeger (PzSkott 86)

SWE Soldier (AK5)

SWE MG Soldier

I definately support having english names. How can our brave

nordic forces then communicate if we use our native languages? <span id='postcolor'>

Would rather see it like this

Swedish Jaeger (PzSkott 86)

Swedish Soldier (AK5)

Swedish MG Soldier

Hope you will do the same for the finnish unit your are making instead of just having FIN infront.

[Black-Ghost 0]

Is there a web site for this mod?

[Lt_Dan_Sweden 0]

Main Website

http://hem.passagen.se/granq/

[granQ 293]

okey, just so you guys knows. It is beta. Some of the pages was done very late with very poor english and the download link doesn't work.. i changed ip and not gonna bother to update it since the next package are just around the corner.. (atleast we hope so)