Score Keeping Errors

[mrmax 0]

I really like OFP, there is a lot to like about this game.

But there is really so much that is wrong with this game too.

Multiplayer Score Keeping SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS!

DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT!

Our OFP squad has been entering squad tourney's. We get

into disputes over the correct score. Not every player in

the game has the same score! Often players will score a

flag and the screen message will show on only a couple of

screens but not everyone. Players will get messages for

kills they made, but when they view the score, there is a

big fat zero for kills they made. We have had matches

5 v 5 and every player has a different score.

Yes most the time lag is part of the problem. But don't

you think when this game was designed, and BI knew it was

going Multiplayer, and BI knew all pings were going to vary,

and BI knew that lag would be a hugh factor.

Don't you think they could have come up with a score keeping

system that worked under these conditions? #### NO!

They couldn't think that far ahead. Instead we have an

almost meaningless scoring system.

Suggestion:

Long term. Fix the d*amn thing so all have same score!

Short Term. On player's machine, kills that player makes,

plus flags, are dumped to text file. The

text file would have session #, time/date

stamp. Somehow this needs to be a read only

file that can't easily be altered.

Hey BI, there is so much in this game to like, and I do like

it. BUT fix the scoring please!

[tlx 0]

Though i see your point it's not useful to crosspost.

[mrmax 0]

Crosspost?  as in this post is in wrong forum?

Or, the fact that I posted this in 3 forums?

If your saying crosspost as in wrong forum?

Then what forum should multiplayer score keeping be in?

(This the multiplayer forum)!

If your saying crosspost as in, I shouldn't post same

in 3 forums.  Then why do you think that I took the

extra time to post in 3 forums?

I posted Score Keeping Errors    X 3, because I want it

fixed!  Instead of critiquing me, you should join in support,

so BI addresses legitimate problems, that are fixable.

I'm not wasting your time by posting x3, unless your stupid

enough to read it 3 times.  The 3 posts are directed at

BI, and I am hoping others indicate their desire to  have

this problem fixed too.

[Hudson 0]

Yes......the MP scoring has alot of problems.....I am with you on this one. Why is it you can kill 20 guys and never get a point some rounds? If I happen to choose to be a team leader and a player drops out of the round I get no points for the rest of my kills.....whats the deal with that. No points because I happen to have an AI player under my command. I love this game but the MP side is just way to buggy, maybe Santa and Suma will fix this in the christmas patch.

[tlx 0]

mrmax, we all know that the game has bugs and we all looking forward to fixes. *But* the only ones to priorize bugs are BIS and not players.

One thing to add: *Who* should keep track of replies to the same topic in three different forums? Since developers don't have the ability to consolidate these posts to one it just doesn't help dealing with your topic.

(Edited by tlx at 1:07 pm on Dec. 10, 2001)

[mrmax 0]

To:  tix

You have now made 2 posts on a tread, and neither

posts relates to the tread.  Rather than trying to act

like some forum Nazi, either stick to the topic or

SHUT YOUR MOUTH!

You are leading this post away from the intended tread!

Please stay on topic, or not post!

To Suma

OFP "Score Keeping Errors"  a flaw in the game.

SUMA please address this question...  thanks

[tlx 0]

I stated i see the point in my first post, but tried to tell you something about netiquette. Also tried to show you that it's not useful what your doing and won't increase the possibilty of it beeing fixed.

For your information Nazis tend to be facists/racists, none of the posts contained any signs of it. Might be your lack of education to think *all* germans are Nazis. Maybe it's better that you didn't enter a Location in your profile, since you do not belong to the "sophisticated majority" of whatever country.

(Edited by tlx at 11:33 pm on Dec. 10, 2001)

[rekrul 7]

Just making the score server-side insted of client-side (like every other MP game) would prolly kill the problem. I'm sure BIS has a reason for having it client-side but I think they could make a work-around for it.

-Rekrul

(Edited by Rekrul at 12:10 am on Dec. 11, 2001)

[RN Malboeuf 12]

read my reply in the general forum, you'll see how the scoring online works, it's a bug still and does need to be fixed

[mrmax 0]

I apologize to all that must bear with my response to tik!

(none of the below applies to the thread:

"Score Keeping Errors" bug...

..

.

tlx Posted on 11:32 pm on Dec. 10, 2001

tix< but tried to tell you something about netiquette.>

mrmax..etiquette is to stay on topic/tread, you haven’t yet!

Tix <won't increase the possibilty of it beeing fixed. >

mrmax..Now your saying that BI doesn’t listen to their customers?

Sorry but, I have several email from BI on other issues,

That clearly shows they care about their customer base.

Trying to suppress the way customers point out serious

flaws in the current OFP game, is another nazi trait you

possess.

Tix<For your information Nazis tend to be facists/racists,>

tix< Might be your lack of education to think *all* germans are Nazis.>

mrmax..My error was in capitalizing nazi, as in:†: one who resembles a German Naziâ€.

"nazi", As in yourself "tik", you just declared yourself better than someone you don’t even know.

A typical nazi trait. In addition you assume that someone took the time to view your

Profile. But now that we know you are from nazi heritage, the similarities fits even

better. It’s unfortunate that as a German, you haven’t learn to distance yourself from

these tendencies of superiority.

Tix< since you do not belong to the "sophisticated majority" of whatever country.>

mrmax..My gosh, elitism, justs ooze from your very core! Again you can’t hide

Your nazi tendencies. You might consider seeking professional help!

Finally, this is now your 3rd post on this thread. You haven’t made

a reply yet that was germane to this topic. Please stop wasting

Bandwidth with your superflous b.s.

(Your silence from this point on. will show all that

you are indeed, a cultured individual that respects

the rights of others to express their opinion. And

allow those individuals the freedom, to pursue a

level of customer satisfaction that individual seeks.

Further response will only indicate that you are

indeed, an insolent, overbearing person who persists

in tormenting others.)

Thank you, for your cooperation in advance..

To all others: The Thread is "Score Keeping Errors" Bug,

none of the above in this "reply to tik applies to the

tread. I again offer my sincere apology for digressing

from the thread.

*Note

Comments regarding nazi are only ment as a discription

of the tendancies exhibited by the individual known as

tik. No other German person or persons are these

comments a reflection of.

[tlx 0]

You *seem* to have problems with ppl in general that have different views. As you might find from Malboeufs reply in one of your three posts it's hard to keep track of a single post on _three threads_. (Quote: read my reply in the general forum, you'll see how the scoring online works, it's a bug still and does need to be fixed).

That's all i said *plus* i see your point on the issue (that's dealing with the topic). Obviously you never dealt with helpdesk topics from the view of the person supporting at all. Just try to imagine you had to keep track of this topic with posts on every thread. That you come at ppl with this Nazi stuff you don't really seem to have a deeper knowlodge except from playing RtCW is totally weird too. I have no interrest in *arguing* with you. Readers will make up their own mind and maybe come to the conclusion (as myself) that your the only offensive person around here.

[mrmax 0]

Here we go again.......

(Folks sorry this reply does not follow the thread,

below comments are for “tik†who is spawn camping

here…)

mrmax previously wrote:

(Your silence from this point on. will show all that

you are indeed, a cultured individual that respects

the rights of others to express their opinion. And

allow those individuals the freedom, to pursue a

level of customer satisfaction that individual seeks.

Further response will only indicate that you are

indeed, an insolent, overbearing person who persists

in tormenting others.)

Thank you, for your cooperation in advance..

***********************************

You could have bowed out gracefully, not continuing

with your harassing barrage.  Not likely!

tix<You *seem* to have problems with ppl in general that have different views.>

mrmax... "tik" You have no view.  Your only points are criticism.  Nothing to do with

the thread.  Furthur you generalize, by using the word, "people".  I haven't

mentioned anyone but you.  No one else has harassed me except you.

Further, you misquote Malboeufs reply'

"Lets bring this up in the 2.X forums shall we "

I don't see this as a correction on where I posted.

Rather it's a suggestion to post in 2.x because it may

get a better possible response.

No mention of cross posts or anything else.

In addition you continually come up with false issues so

you can further argue and harass,

ie, (tik said) "Obviously you never dealt with helpdesk

topics from the view of the person supporting at all. Just

try to imagine you had to keep track of this topic with

posts on every thread"

Who the heck cares, crap!  Helpdesk, view of person

supporting all?  Give us a break..

And what is RtCW?  Don't answer I don't give a crap..

Finally you say, "I have no interest in *arguing* with you.

 DUDE THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE DONE.

Now, no further reply is necessary by tik!

You may bow out gracefully, you have said enough.

I want this to get back on thread.

Do not give into temptation, by further harassing.

If you resist replying, then we will know that

I may be mistaken, you may not be a nazi.  

However should you decide to reply, there should be

no reference to the original poster (myself), and the

only information given in a reply should contribute

to the thread "Score Keeping Errors".  Being redundant,

(providing unnecessary information already covered),

should be avoided.

Once again all who have had to endure this negative

Interaction with “tikâ€, I apologize.  Hopefully now, we

Can get back on thread…..

[ufo_hk 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from mrmax on 7:21 pm on Dec. 11, 2001

Here we go again.......

(Folks sorry this reply does not follow the thread,

below comments are for “tik†who is spawn camping

here…)<span id='postcolor'>

Agree there are problems with MP scoring that need to be fixed and you've raised a good point, but why are you not following your own good advise and just leave (ignore) tlx.

You know each reply is just going to continue the "debate" (argument) - which should be moved to offtopic or to personal communications.

I just want to get back to seeing the issue of MP scoring discussed.

[cactus 0]

It's not only for CTF-scorekeeping that this has to be fixed. All trigger-activation in MP can create havoc, both in COOP and TDM/DM. Triggering a trigger should not be client-sided since this obviously don't work.

It's happened in a few COOP that one player triggered a "global" trigger but it didn't show up for the other players. So something has to be done.

- Cactus -

(Edited by cactus at 4:38 pm on Dec. 14, 2001)