What a waste of money!

[Assault (CAN) 1]

Well, I wen't down to my local Electronics Boutique today and picked up a copy of Microsoft's CFS 3, expecting a great game and I learned a painful lesson: Do NOT by a game until you have read a few reviews about it first.

CFS 3 starts in 1943, just when the Allied boming offensive was picking up, that's too bad because the B-17 and B-24 aren't even modeled in the game! No more desperate attacks on huge formations of B-17's in an Me-109.

This game was meant to be a ground attack oriented sim, so maybe that's why they didn't bother with the heavy bombers and focused on highly detailed ground terrain. Too bad, because you need a high-end PC just to get the minimum performace out of the game.

Another beef with me was the fact that you can't control the planes with the mouse like you could in CFS 2. Since I don't have a joystick, and I don't wan't to buy one for my only flight sim, that is definately a negative.

Go toGamespot for a good review, they gave it a %70.

I can't beleive I spent $80.05 (CDN) on this game.

DON'T DO WHAT I DID! Don't buy this game. I wonder what EB's return policies are?

Tyler

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Thanks for the heads up bro- I need someone to scout out Microsoft titles because they dont always release demos

[Assault (CAN) 1]

No prob.

There isn't even a mission builder in this game, though MS is releasing an SDK for the game.

EB's return policy says that I can exchange opened software for a game of equal or lesser value. The game was $69.99 (CDN) so maybe I'll go exchange it for IL2 at $67.99?

Tyler

[Tex -USMC- 0]

GO! DO IT NOW!

you wont regret it

[Sheriff 0]

Agreed, IL2 is up with OFP on my favourite game list.

[habdoel 0]

but its hard to fly without a joystick.(still gotta get one of those sticks)

[Col. Kurtz 0]

What a pity, I was lookign forward to it(hgasnt even come out here in Australia yet). Sure, it was a Micro$oft game, but it looked so cool I planned to ignore that part but its getting real negative press, so unless a really good patch comes out for it soon, dosnt look like Mr. Gates is getting my cash. I have IL-2 so I think I'll invest in Forgoten Battles. People are making American and British planes for IL-2 so soon the experiance will be complete.

[Tovarish 0]

Silly Assault, you should have gotten IL-2

The day I get tired of this baby is the day I get tired of OFP

[FSPilot 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Nov. 06 2002,09:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another beef with me was the fact that you can't control the planes with the mouse like you could in CFS 2. Since I don't have a joystick, and I don't wan't to buy one for my only flight sim, that is definately a negative.<span id='postcolor'>

What are you doing buying a flight simulator without a joystick?

lol

[advocatexxx 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ Nov. 06 2002,08:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Nov. 06 2002,095)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Another beef with me was the fact that you can't control the planes with the mouse like you could in CFS 2. Since I don't have a joystick, and I don't wan't to buy one for my only flight sim, that is definately a negative.<span id='postcolor'>

What are you doing buying a flight simulator without a joystick?

lol<span id='postcolor'>

My point exactly. Get a joystick dude.

[FallenPaladin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Sheriff @ Nov. 06 2002,06:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Agreed, IL2 is up with OFP on my favourite game list.<span id='postcolor'>

On mine, too!

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (habdoel @ Nov. 06 2002,10:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but its hard to fly without a joystick.(still gotta get one of those sticks)<span id='postcolor'>

They've got a point, I don't see you getting much enjoyability out of a good flight sim without a stick.

[Sadico 1]

Get a joystick dude, they aren't that expensive (unless you want a thrustmaster)

[Warin 0]

I was looking at CFS3, but in the end I decided to wait till I can track down a copy of IL-2.

Beyond that, the sim I am really jonseing for hasnt even been properly announced yet. All that has been said is that Larry Holland and Totally Games are working on a new WWII flight sim for Lucasarts. And back in the dayt, BoB and SWotL were two of my favourite flight sims! Woooo!

[Tex -USMC- 0]

Keep dreamin Warin

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Nov. 06 2002,17:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Keep dreamin Warin<span id='postcolor'>

Hm?

What was that you were saying?

[FSPilot 0]

I can't imagine using a flight sim without a joystick.

I even had a set of rudder pedals and a yoke (complete with throttle stick ). They broke though =\

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Nov. 05 2002,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was looking at CFS3, but in the end I decided to wait till I can track down a copy of IL-2.  <span id='postcolor'>

Darn i immediatly (sp?) clicked the Quote button when i saw this post but now i see that it was useless. I thought you said that you wanted to copy the game and get it that way. So i hurried up to quote you and have some fun but then i figured out it was all pointless. Damn english is so tricky!

Bah, this day sucks!

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 06 2002,20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I thought you said that you wanted to copy the game and get it that way.  So i hurried up to quote you and have some fun but then i figured out it was all pointless.  Damn english is so tricky!<span id='postcolor'>

Lol Feeling like taking down some moderators for piracy are we? . I know what you mean about English, especially when I'm very tired/and/or stressed I'll find myself inadvertedly switching to Spanish or Russian...You get some weird looks let me tell you...

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 05 2002,21:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 06 2002,208)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I thought you said that you wanted to copy the game and get it that way.  So i hurried up to quote you and have some fun but then i figured out it was all pointless.  Damn english is so tricky!<span id='postcolor'>

Lol Feeling like taking down some moderators for piracy are we? .<span id='postcolor'>

Hehehe, exactly!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know what you mean about English, especially when I'm very tired/and/or stressed I'll find myself inadvertedly switching to Spanish or Russian...You get some weird looks let me tell you...<span id='postcolor'>

The same here, the only difference is that my english isn't very good, so when i'm tired it gets even worse

[Warin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 06 2002,20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Nov. 05 2002,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was looking at CFS3, but in the end I decided to wait till I can track down a copy of IL-2.  <span id='postcolor'>

Darn i immediatly (sp?) clicked the Quote button when i saw this post but now i see that it was useless.  I thought you said that you wanted to copy the game and get it that way.  So i hurried up to quote you and have some fun but then i figured out it was all pointless.  Damn english is so tricky!

Bah, this day sucks!<span id='postcolor'>

I am happy right now playing the demo of IL-2. It is more than enough to show me that I want to buy the game. Future Shop doesnt have it, and we dont have an EB here. The last place I saw it was Wal Mart, so I am going to check there on payday.

And no, I dont pirate software

[cam0flage 0]

Has anyone tried those IL2 campaigns available in stores? I remember the other one was called Operation Barbarossa, that was a campaign for the Germans, of course. There's also one for the Russians, but I don't remember what's it called. IL2 was very nice, I was thinking of getting the OB addon.

Also, about CFS3, is it possible to import earlier version aircrafts into the game? I'd like to fly with 50s and 60s jet aircraft. They are so crude but really cool to fly instead of high-tech F-18s

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 06 2002,20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Warin @ Nov. 05 2002,18:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was looking at CFS3, but in the end I decided to wait till I can track down a copy of IL-2.  <span id='postcolor'>

Darn i immediatly (sp?) clicked the Quote button when i saw this post but now i see that it was useless.  I thought you said that you wanted to copy the game and get it that way.  So i hurried up to quote you and have some fun but then i figured out it was all pointless.  Damn english is so tricky!

Bah, this day sucks!<span id='postcolor'>

Haha, I was thinking just the same Also mix up English words when I'm tired ("Jenny from the block" became "Jelly from the bloke" hehe)

I'm not sure weather to buy CFS3 or IL2 though.. Got the IL2 demo, seems pretty good.

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (iNeo @ Nov. 06 2002,21:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not sure weather to buy CFS3 or IL2 though.. Got the IL2 demo, seems pretty good.<span id='postcolor'>

Get Il-2! Especially with the new Forgotten Battles expansion coming. You'll have better graphics, dynamic campaign, redone AI, and the damage models will be much more in-depth.The engine of each plane by itself will have around 20 different hitzones! (and as a matter of principle, I've never bought a Microsoft product unless it came with my new computer )

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and we dont have an EB here. <span id='postcolor'>

Weird...we seem to have one in every mall in Ottawa.

[iNeo 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 06 2002,21:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Get Il-2! Especially with the new Forgotten Battles expansion coming. You'll have better graphics, dynamic campaign, redone AI, and the damage models will be much more in-depth.The engine of each plane by itself will have atound 20 different hitzones! (and as a matter of principle, I've never bought a Microsoft product unless it came with my new computer )<span id='postcolor'>

Understood Sounds good. Costs something like $36 here in Sweden, not too expensive. (Or is it? What does it cost over there?)

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tovarish @ Nov. 06 2002,21:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and we dont have an EB here. <span id='postcolor'>

Weird...we seem to have one in every mall in Ottawa.

<span id='postcolor'>

Ottawa... Canada... Avril Lavigne...