bn880 5 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (E6Hotel @ Nov. 06 2002,14:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,20:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who is the one forcefully changing someone elses civilization to suit them in the first place?<span id='postcolor'> Our actions are taken in RESPONSE to attacks against innocent civilians. Theirs are due to the fact that OBL got butthurt when Saudi Arabia permitted us to base there against Iraq after telling him and his former Mujahadeen that their services were not needed. Semper Fi<span id='postcolor'> You have been told by the Saudis your services are not needed anymore... over and over again. Anyway, loopy logic and twisted facts.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You have been told by the Saudis your services are not needed anymore... over and over again.<span id='postcolor'> Correct. Between you and me, I'd like to see us pull out most rickee-tick -- and stay out when Hussein or Unspecified Despot X rolls into town. That still doesn't change the fact that's what initially PO'd OBL. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,21:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Anyway, loopy logic and twisted facts....<span id='postcolor'> I blame the American school system. For my enlightenment, please correct my errors. Semper Fi edit: i-n-i-t-i-a-l-l-y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 06 2002,19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 05 2002,00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yemen (CNN) -- In a CNN interview, a top Pentagon official called a missile strike that killed six suspected al Qaeda members in Yemen<span id='postcolor'> Has anyone noticed this?<span id='postcolor'> What about the suspected Nazis killed at Normandy? WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THEM? Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted November 6, 2002 "Very impressive knowledge you have... Good to see that some people know a lot about Europe's history... " Not at all to belittle that post, but most of that is common knowledge to a large part of the Nordic population and probably also to most Europeans. "Let's assume that somehow, the U.S. is completely wiped out by "Muslim" fundamentalists (control the cheering, ya commie bastids). Who do you think is next on the list?" I think you are confusing the insane acts of a couple of terrorist with an all out Arab vs Western Society war. There is no way these terrorists could wipe out all of America, it just wont happen. Their goal is to create enough havoc so that the US will stop backing Israel and stop poking their nose into Mid East affairs. Of course, this will not work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PitViper 0 Posted November 6, 2002 in my opinion, the behavior of the northern european countries when they were faced with the Germans was utterly despicable and contemptable. They sent their resources to them, a large number enlisted in the wehrmacht itself, and they seemed to have little problem rounding up the ones the Germans didn't like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted November 6, 2002 "in my opinion, the behavior of the northern european countries when they were faced with the Germans was utterly despicable and contemptable. They sent their resources to them, a large number enlisted in the wehrmacht itself, and they seemed to have little problem rounding up the ones the Germans didn't like." OK, if you will, name these northern European nations that did this. Also, it would be nice with concrete examples. To my knowledge there was one northern European country that gave safe passage to the Germans during parts of the war, also continued trading with them and rounded up suspected terrorists and handed them over. (Nice part that one actually, handing over accused terrorists isnt something new it seems). This same country also sent information to the Allies, helped resistance fighters in neighbouring countries and saved the life of many Jews. While some of the population sided with the Germans and even enlisted in the Wehrmacht (an extreme minority enlisted at all), most tried to just survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SantaMania 0 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (E6Hotel @ Nov. 06 2002,22:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DarkLight @ Nov. 06 2002,19:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Nov. 05 2002,00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yemen (CNN) -- In a CNN interview, a top Pentagon official called a missile strike that killed six suspected al Qaeda members in Yemen<span id='postcolor'> Has anyone noticed this?<span id='postcolor'> What about the suspected Nazis killed at Normandy? WHO WILL SPEAK FOR THEM? Semper Fi<span id='postcolor'> ... Theres a difference between bombing a civilian building in a non-war scenario in a 3rd party country, than to shoot people wearing enemy uniform in a invading operation during a war-scene. If you cannot see the difference between that, maybe you should question yourself.... "Do I really have the brain to own a computer"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Nov. 06 2002,2204)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think you are confusing the insane acts of a couple of terrorist with an all out Arab vs Western Society war.<span id='postcolor'> I've had to say this too many times, but once more won't hurt: -- Our actions are not targeted against Muslims or the Arab world. They are targeted against terrorists who (wrongfully IMO) claim to be Muslims. -- We in no way believe that AQ is representative of true Muslims. -- We don't believe that true Muslims consider AQ to be their representatives. Nevertheless, IF the U.S. WAS hypothetically eliminated, AQ and their like would not decide to sit back and peacefully roast marshmallows by the campfire. They would just proceed to the next "infidel" nation. Peaceful coexistence is not an option with these morons. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Nov. 06 2002,2204)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There is no way these terrorists could wipe out all of America, it just wont happen. Their goal is to create enough havoc so that the US will stop backing Israel and stop poking their nose into Mid East affairs. Of course, this will not work.<span id='postcolor'> I take issue with the "poking the nose" bit, but that's more or less what I've been saying all along. Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SantaMania 0 Posted November 6, 2002 As far as I believe, Al Quada allrdy won the battle. USA is a symbolf of the western civilisation, and if they have succesfully made them using assasination and slaughterring, the terroriss allrdy won Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SantaMania @ Nov. 06 2002,22:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... Theres a difference between bombing a civilian building in a non-war scenario in a 3rd party country, than to shoot people wearing enemy uniform in a invading operation during a war-scene. If you cannot see the difference between that, maybe you should question yourself.... "Do I really have the brain to own a computer"?<span id='postcolor'> Maybe I should have used a smilie. Of course, there's also a difference between bombing a civilian building in a non-war scenario in a 3rd party country and taking out a carload of terrorists in a war situation with the cooperation of the said 3rd party country. Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wardog @ Nov. 05 2002,23:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Er, CIA did something right?<span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted November 6, 2002 i still haven't got answer from european members. if missiling them as the last resort is not a good way, then what is a good way and did europe do anything like it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted November 6, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Nov. 06 2002,17:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i still haven't got answer from european members. if missiling them as the last resort is not a good way, then what is a good way and did europe do anything like it?<span id='postcolor'> A good way is not to make enemies that want to kill you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Nov. 06 2002,178)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i still haven't got answer from european members. if missiling them as the last resort is not a good way, then what is a good way and did europe do anything like it?<span id='postcolor'> A good way is not to make enemies that want to kill you.<span id='postcolor'> What did we even do in the first place that got the middle east so pissed off at us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ Nov. 06 2002,22:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">in my opinion, the behavior of the northern european countries when they were faced with the Germans was utterly despicable and contemptable. Â They sent their resources to them, a large number enlisted in the wehrmacht itself, and they seemed to have little problem rounding up the ones the Germans didn't like.<span id='postcolor'> Did you skip the history class? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted November 7, 2002 I thought Denoir just explained it. Anyone else want to go into the long drawn out explanations? I don't have time to do it and present "proof" honestly. I'm not sure if this is the proper thread either (no it's not actually). What ever is proven or said, you will accuse the proving party of supporting terrorism, so I'm not going to incriminate myself or anyone here for you. EDIT: Although I can't be sure for all the reasons (I'm not a terrorist as you call it), just think how many various countries are not targets of any such violence, nor are they threatened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E6Hotel 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A good way is not to make enemies that want to kill you.<span id='postcolor'> Neville? Is that you, old chap? Â <=== For Santa Semper Fi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OFPunk 0 Posted November 7, 2002 Lets just forget about this whole attack and blame it on Gray Davis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OFPunk @ Nov. 07 2002,04:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lets just forget about this whole attack and blame it on Gray Davis.<span id='postcolor'> Speaking of guys I REALLY dont like... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brgnorway 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Nov. 07 2002,04:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (OFPunk @ Nov. 07 2002,04:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lets just forget about this whole attack and blame it on Gray Davis.<span id='postcolor'> Speaking of guys I REALLY dont like...<span id='postcolor'> Who is Gray Davis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted November 7, 2002 governor of California. stay on topic plz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus_Long 0 Posted November 7, 2002 Ok, let me settle this argument once and for all. Ford's law is still intact. I have inside information that the CIA was simply trying to shoot out the tires of the car in question. There was perhaps a slight miscalculation in the type of ordinance used. That's all. There's no assassination, or acts of war, just a simple accident that left a few terrorists smoldering in a crater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PitViper 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Nov. 06 2002,17:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A good way is not to make enemies that want to kill you.<span id='postcolor'> ya.. like the Aussies right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PitViper 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 06 2002,20:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Did you skip the history class?<span id='postcolor'> Are you going to tell me that Sweden providing Nazi Germany with tons of iron ore for its war machine is not a historical fact? Are you going to tell me that there weren't any northern europeans who joined the wehrmacht to help with the "jew problem"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warin 0 Posted November 7, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ Nov. 07 2002,05:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 06 2002,20:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Did you skip the history class?<span id='postcolor'> Are you going to tell me that Sweden providing Nazi Germany with tons of iron ore for its war machine is not a historical fact? Are you going to tell me that there weren't any northern europeans who joined the wehrmacht to help with the "jew problem"?<span id='postcolor'> If I am not mistaken, werent a lot of American germans sympathetic to Nazi Germany? Wasnt there a book written recently about a major american corporation that collaborated with the Germans? Throwing stones about what Sweden may have done when it had a rather large and real threat of invasion is a little strange coming from someone who had it's own collaborators... but had less of a reason to have a fear of what would happen if they DIDNT. And this is not American bashing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites