Inquiry

[Longinius 1]

I just wanted to check up on something.

How many here know what has actually happened to the suspected terrorists held on Cuba?

- How many think they have been entitled to contact their families in one way or another?

- How many think they have been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands?

- How many think they have been charged with anything?

- How many think there have been or will be trials?

[ralphwiggum 6]

seems more like flame bait to me.

let's see how this thread goes.

[DarkLight 0]

Um, i posted a message here but i can't see it, the board says that i posted it but there's nothing here, just Raplh's reply

edit: I can see this message but i can't see my other one, can anybody see my other post?

[Longinius 1]

Flame bait? Its honest questions. The reason I ask them is because I think many people have just forgotten, or doesnt even care, about those people.

[ralphwiggum 6]

hmm...seems like darklight's post is gone to forum blackhole...ikonBoard do have bugs....

well, ususally this kinda of question attracts anti-US ppl and will endup with ppl arguing whether it is RIGHT or WRONG.

[DarkLight 0]

Oh well, all i posted was:

- How many ppl know the point of this post?

So basically no valuable information got lost

[Die Alive 0]

I hear these suspects are called unlawful combatants or battlefield detainees by the Pentagon, and not P.O.W.s so they're only granted limited rights under the Geneva Convention.

Out of sight, out of mind.

-=Die Alive=-

[Die Alive 0]

Wow, they get a foam mattress to sleep on, unlike some homeless people I see sleeping on park benches or on cardboard boxes. How lush.

Maybe little Elian Gonzalez can pay them a visit and lift their spirits.  

-=Die Alive=-

[E6Hotel 0]

2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Oct. 18 2002,162)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">- How many think they have been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands?<span id='postcolor'>

"A group of British diplomats was at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base Saturday to inspect conditions of three detainees who say they are British.

The U.S. military also allowed a Red Cross team to visit the facilities and interview detainees this week. The Red Cross has said its report will be confidential, shared only with U.S. officials.

Brig. Gen. Mike Lehnert, the head of a task force in charge of the detention mission, said both groups were being given ``full access'' and that Red Cross officials are being allowed to interview detainees in ``full privacy.''"

NCTimes

Semper Fi

[foxer 0]

They gotta be doing better then they was in afghanistan.Their getting free care,Free food,and a nice foam bed.Probably hell alot better then a cave bed.

[Longinius 1]

E6Hotel, when was that post from? 1/20/02?

The reason I asked these questions is because they are holding a guy with Swedish citizenship. He has been allowed ONE visitation by diplomats since he ended up there. He has still not been charged with anything, neither has anyone else. He sent a letter to his family 9 months ago, it arrived a couple of days ago. They do not even know if he is still alive, since the Red Cross isnt let in to confirm it.

[KingBeast 0]

They arent getting freedom though

[foxer 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KingBeast @ Oct. 18 2002,19:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They arent getting freedom though<span id='postcolor'>

They should be happy their alive,Come on did you really think afghanistan was to going win ? I think we need to take them(the people that came different country) outta the gene pool.

[E6Hotel 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Oct. 18 2002,19:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">E6Hotel, when was that post from? 1/20/02?

The reason I asked these questions is because they are holding a guy with Swedish citizenship. He has been allowed ONE visitation by diplomats since he ended up there. He has still not been charged with anything, neither has anyone else.<span id='postcolor'>

Sorry man, just answering the question. I'm not Miss Cleo.  

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Oct. 18 2002,19:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He sent a letter to his family 9 months ago, it arrived a couple of days ago.<span id='postcolor'>

There's the answer to question #1.  

Semper Fi

Edit: Jeez my cutting & pasting is getting sloppy. Note to self: Ingest more caffeine.

[KingBeast 0]

Perhaps foxer, but look at it like this. If they were soldiers, they should be treated with the respect that all soldiers deserve. If they are not soldiers, then what justification for their arrest in a foreign land is there?

Take who out of the gene pool btw? I know you dont mean the Afghanis, so try to rephrase that a little

[E6Hotel 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KingBeast @ Oct. 18 2002,20:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If they are not soldiers, then what justification for their arrest in a foreign land is there?<span id='postcolor'>

Being terrorists?

Of course, the term is "detained," not "arrested."

Semper Fi

[KingBeast 0]

Terrorists perhaps, but in what sense of the word? I doubt any of the men detained have actually comitted acts of Terror against the US. They certainly arent the ones that hijacked the planes...

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

In Germany it is even forbidden to keep a shepherd in such a box. But I guess in Germany the rights of animals are more luxury than the human rights in the US. Concerning this issue I wont move one single step away from my point of view.

[ran 0]

a little bit offtopic , but albert , do you have a shepherd ? these dogs are the most fantastic dogs i've ever seen

[Die Alive 0]

I would like to check up on something too.

How many here know what has actually happened to the WSJ journalist Daniel Pearl?

- How many think Daniel had been entitled to contact their families in one way or another? Yes, in several e-mails and video, usually with a gun pointed at his head.

- How many think Daniel had been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands? None

- How many think Daniel was charged with anything? He was a Jewish-American reporter accused of being an agent for the CIA and for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency

- How many think there has been a trial? There was, and he was found guilty on all charges, and executed.

-=Die Alive=-

[red oct 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Oct. 18 2002,20:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would like to check up on something too.

How many here know what has actually happened to the WSJ journalist Daniel Pearl?

- How many think Daniel had been entitled to contact their families in one way or another? Yes, in several taped videos, usually with a gun pointed at his head.

- How many think Daniel had been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands? None

- How many think Daniel was charged with anything? He was a Jewish-American reporter accused of being an agent for the CIA and for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency

- How many think there has been a trial? There was, and he was found guilty on all charges, and executed.

-=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'>

yea, i was really hopping that man was gona come back home safe  sick bastards even made a movie of his exacusion.

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Oct. 17 2002,21:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would like to check up on something too.

How many here know what has actually happened to the WSJ journalist Daniel Pearl?

- How many think Daniel had been entitled to contact their families in one way or another? Yes, in several e-mails and video, usually with a gun pointed at his head.

- How many think Daniel had been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands? None

- How many think Daniel was charged with anything? He was a Jewish-American reporter accused of being an agent for the CIA and for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency

- How many think there has been a trial? There was, and he was found guilty on all charges, and executed.

-=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'>

Well, we got all the answers now...

CASE CLOSED!

[Albert Schweitzer 10]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Oct. 18 2002,20:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would like to check up on something too.

How many here know what has actually happened to the WSJ journalist Daniel Pearl?

- How many think Daniel had been entitled to contact their families in one way or another? Yes, in several e-mails and video, usually with a gun pointed at his head.

- How many think Daniel had been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands? None

- How many think Daniel was charged with anything? He was a Jewish-American reporter accused of being an agent for the CIA and for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency

- How many think there has been a trial? There was, and he was found guilty on all charges, and executed.

-=Die Alive=-<span id='postcolor'>

One little detail is missing:

We consider us to be the "civilised world" which forces us to respect certain rules of humanity. That is why we employ lawyers and judges and not professional killers to solve a fundamental problem. This construct of rules and obligations also protects YOU! If it didnt yet, one day it will and then you are gonna be glad you live in the "civilised world"

[edc 0]

Personally I think they should be thanking 'allah' that their *sses are alive. Their terrorist-they don't play by the rules so why should they be treated w/ respect. The only reason I wouldn't supports executing those s.o.b.'s is that they may contain info on Al Queida.

[Longinius 1]

"Being terrorists?"

Even terrorists have rights though; right to a trial. Besides, they are innocent until proven guilty. Or does that only apply to American terrorists?

"Their terrorist-they don't play by the rules so why should they be treated w/ respect"

Because they havent been sentenced yet? Because we have a society based around a judicial system?

"- How many think Daniel had been entitled to contact their families in one way or another? Yes, in several e-mails and video, usually with a gun pointed at his head.

- How many think Daniel had been allowed visitations by the Red Cross or diplomats from their homelands? None

- How many think Daniel was charged with anything? He was a Jewish-American reporter accused of being an agent for the CIA and for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency

- How many think there has been a trial? There was, and he was found guilty on all charges, and executed."

So, you are saying that the terrorists that kidnapped this journalist can be compared to the American government? Wow, thats a stretch even I wasnt going for