Modified config and Fade messages

[giskard 0]

Hello all.

I just read about one of the messages I wanted to ask about and thats the "Original games dont fade message" that appears on my server when people join.

Id like more info on it if posible, like exactly why the server sees it and the others dont. what causes it.

I read nocd hacks can cause it but not a lot else about it.

The other message i see on my server is "User is using a modified config".

I dont have a clue of the meaning of this message other than what the sentence says, eg the user has modified his config.

Any info you have on this would be welcome.

Also is there anything I can do about either of these and what is the effects on the user that generates those messages ?

I read there were some effects but id like clarification please.

Giskard

[rekrul 7]

Generally, any documentation about servers and scripts/configs would be welcome.

-Rekrul

[RN Malboeuf 12]

The Fade comes from

NO CD hack - they will disconect after a few mins or wont conect at all

Player logs on Twice, you'll see the Fade MSG, it's just that they crashed and the server now thinks two ppl have joined with the same CD KEY - ie Malboeuf (2)

Try and remove/kick the 1st player, it will be hard

As for the Modified Config file, thats a toughie, no one has reported why this happens I don't think

[Mister Frag 0]

The modified CONFIG.BIN message has appeared when I played with my friends, none of which use illegal copies or NoCD hacks. I don't know what triggers it.

However, we haven't seen that message recently, and we are all on V1.30 now. I even use a NoCD hack because the V1.30 SafeDisc engine doesn't like my hardware.

[Chris Death 0]

The modified config message appears, when

anyone joins a game and his addons folder

contains different addons to the server.

This message isn't a bad one (it just tells

you that you don't have the same addons

he has)

btw - this has already been posted yet malbeuf

(just for the fact that you normally know an answer

to all question - lol)

[RN Malboeuf 12]

Sorry your wrong, one thing we do know is that it has nothing to do with Addons

From the start we have always had Different addons yet only certain players join with that message

We checked various addons months ago to see if this affected this, we checked

Don't flame, or Brag when you don't know what your talking about

If I knew the answer to every thing I would be in every post lol

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 1:13 pm on Dec. 11, 2001)

[Chris Death 0]

Ey - are you sure you listed the config.bin?

I'm at work and can't take a look right now,

but i think you haven't listed config.bin.

What you listed above looks more like

the flashpoint.cfg (i'm not really sure - i'll be

when i return home)

btw - i just told ya that it has been already

answered (if it was correct or not)

[giskard 0]

I have done a little checking and all those that get the modified config message seem to be using custom faces.

I dont know if theres any connection yet.

Giskard

[RN Malboeuf 12]

nope on that to, we have had allot of players not even using that and still get this

[RN Malboeuf 12]

I did list the wrong one sorry, I was not even paying attention, the Config.bin is coded and but does look like it can be manually changed, but I don't think thats it as many don't even know what or where it is and still get the message

I have not seen it in at all since 1.30

[Chris Death 0]

I took a quick look to my ofp folder, and i figured

out, that the file we all mean is the userinfo.cfg

file. If we compare this file with others, we may

get closer to the solution of this "not gameplay

influencing message"

OK Malboeuf, you're right this time, it has nothing

to do with the addons folder.

I'll go for a test by creating 2 new players on my

LAN soon.

btw - what i already experienced, it has also nothing

to do with using squad.xml files, because on my

second pc i'm using a player name without a squad.xml

file and i also get a "uses modified ...." message, when

it joins to my other one.

[Mister Frag 0]

The message in question appears in STRINGTABLE.CSV, like pretty much everything else -- search for STR_MP_VALIDERROR. It does NOT mention the specific file that appears to have been modified.

The MP in the string name hints at the fact that the message is for multi-player games only. Furthermore, the string is only being referenced from OFP_SERVER.EXE (the dedicated server), but not OPERATIONFLASHPOINT.EXE.

What could apply to MP games that is specific to the dedicated server? Any ideas?

[RN Malboeuf 12]

OK, I'm getting Confused, I never see this any more

but today I Hosted on Game Spy and almost every player that joined had this pop up

Insaneoramma

(Edited by RN Malboeuf at 3:09 am on Dec. 12, 2001)

[giskard 0]

Im reading this thread with great interest but I feel i should meantion that the messages have only appeared on the 1.30 patch for me as i didnt run a server before that.

Also i have not so far made any real attempt to run a dedicated server. I have always run the server from OFP and joined the game my self.

Giskard

[Bucko 0]

Anyone that has changed the LOD"7.5000" to LOD "0.005"  will get the modified config message. This changes the fog and distance your toon can see.

Bucko out

(Edited by Bucko at 1:59 pm on Dec. 13, 2001)

[giskard 0]

Is that a fact or a guess ?

I have to know for certain because that would break my own clans rules and those that are doing it would need to get their wrist slapped.

Giskard

[Mister Frag 0]

It should be easy to test that theory, but I have some doubt that this is what is causing the message -- I thought the viewing distance is controlled by a setviewdistance entry in the mission's DESCRIPTION.EXT file.

I have changed both the Auto Dropdown and the LOD on my system, and haven't seen that message in a while, probably not since I upgraded to V1.30.

(Edited by Mister Frag at 6:41 am on Dec. 14, 2001)

[BigQEd 0]

Mr Frag... I thought that as well.

I did read somewhere on these forums however that this feature was not functioning properly in MP. Maybe this is why...

Finding it though would be a nightmare with the searching on IKonBoard.

[Mister Frag 0]

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Finding it though would be a nightmare with the searching on IKonBoard.<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, what's up with that? :confused:

It's the most useless search feature I have seen in a long time -- I wonder if the Ikonboard developers ever tried using it on a site with large forums.

[giskard 0]

I ask some of the people who generate this message, all have custom addons but none of them have changed the lod, nor are they comfortable editing script files. I know this because I worked with them on other projects that involved scripts and they have consistantly told the same story. EG they hate messing with scripts.

Giskard

[Bucko 0]

LOD 7.500 TO LOD 0.005 ISN'T really all that bad of a thing to do, just lefts the fog a little but it does give that message.

[Mister Frag 0]

Are you sure the LOD affects the visibility in fog? I haven't tried it yet, but fog should be fog...

[Bucko 0]

I didn't want to use the word video "FADE" because of the connotations. but it look a #### of alot like fog.

[kegetys 2]

The modified config file afaik. means that the user CONFIG.BIN file CRC mismatches with the one on the server. This might be because of a bad install, possibly an invalid update from one of the 1.2x betas to the 1.30 (which as you know causes problems with ie. the laser designator) Though im not sure about this...

As for the "Remember: Original games do not fade" message in multiplayer, it appears if two players have the same cdkey (and userid). This is why you get those messages when someone connectes twice, the two people are having the same userid.Fade is also a crc check for the exe but I dont think that affects multiplayer.

[RN Malboeuf 12]

user ID never changes no matter what name you choose,

each CD has it own just like the CD Key, it's most likely apart of it as well