STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 28 2002,16:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">jamais ni merci ni merde .......<span id='postcolor'> Keep your language clean Mr. 35 years old. SWAT's and all anti-terrorist organization never get a "Thank You" Why should europe and usa thank france. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 7--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ Sep. 28 2002,177)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 28 2002,16:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">jamais ni merci ni merde .......<span id='postcolor'> Keep your language clean Mr. 35 years old. SWAT's and all anti-terrorist organization never get a "Thank You" Why should europe and usa thank france.<span id='postcolor'> in france , we got a nice letter from the heads of the concerned services and a little bit more $ on our risk prime ...... france should be thanked because there could have been a mass european and american civilian slaughter you'll notice that when the USA do these kind of action , they're immediatly saluted by the international communauty .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazysheep 1 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ Sep. 28 2002,17:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">SWAT's and all anti-terrorist organization never get a "Thank You" Why should europe and usa thank france.<span id='postcolor'> Well, duuuuuuuuuuh! OBVIOUSLY France has just done the greatest deed ever accomplished in the history of history... And haven't you heard? The French thank the French police and anti-terrorists organisations so everyone should BLATANTLY thank the French for there various deeds, but of course we must ignore that the USA and Britain saved the French's ass in WWII, because they didn't do it honourably. **muttering** People these days....bah.... Oh by the way I was being sarcastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted September 28, 2002 Because SWAT are looking after their own people. Its their job. Apparantly the French troops went out of their way to safe guard the lives of foreigners. Not their jobs. Their oath is to defend their country and their people, not others. Therefore a small recognition would be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaptorAce 0 Posted September 28, 2002 Alot of you non-American's seem to have something against the US... I've had to defend my country and what comes out of it in almost every post i did so far, i'm beginning not to like it. I didn't come here to argue who's better USA or Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Sep. 28 2002,17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Because SWAT are looking after their own people. Its their job. Apparantly the French troops went out of their way to safe guard the lives of foreigners. Not their jobs. Their oath is to defend their country and their people, not others. Therefore a small recognition would be nice.<span id='postcolor'> agreed the french army policy in this kind of situation is too only take atention of the french nationals if nothing else is asked by the international communauty the priority of the french army is to defend the french interests and the french population Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Sep. 28 2002,17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Because SWAT are looking after their own people. Its their job. Apparantly the French troops went out of their way to safe guard the lives of foreigners. Not their jobs. Their oath is to defend their country and their people, not others. Therefore a small recognition would be nice.<span id='postcolor'> um i would doubt that the French Troops would just volenteer. they did what they did because they were told to do it, thats their job. and a oath of a soldier to protect ones nation aplies to all soldiers not just france. did Brittish, American, Dutch, and Sweedish troops just volenteer as a policing force in Bosinia? i don't think they didn't get much thanks their either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted September 28, 2002 How did this get onto US bashing? All Ran wanted was some recognition for his people, and everyone gets defensive. Your all paranoid, I swear! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted September 28, 2002 im not viewing it as anti west, im just saying that its a thankless job. besides i don't think those french really care if they get thanked or not, their just doing their job thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Oct @ Sep. 28 2002,17:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Sep. 28 2002,17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Because SWAT are looking after their own people. Its their job. Apparantly the French troops went out of their way to safe guard the lives of foreigners. Not their jobs. Their oath is to defend their country and their people, not others. Therefore a small recognition would be nice.<span id='postcolor'> um i would doubt that the French Troops would just volenteer. they did what they did because they were told to do it, thats their job. and a oath of a soldier to protect ones nation aplies to all soldiers not just france. did Brittish, American, Dutch, and Sweedish troops just volenteer as a policing force in Bosinia? i don't think they didn't get much thanks their either.<span id='postcolor'> the intervention in ivory coast was an internal decision and not the fruit of a UN or NATO resolution Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">um i would doubt that the French Troops would just volenteer. they did what they did because they were told to do it, thats their job. and a oath of a soldier to protect ones nation aplies to all soldiers not just france. did Brittish, American, Dutch, and Sweedish troops just volenteer as a policing force in Bosinia? i don't think they didn't get much thanks their either.<span id='postcolor'> Well I thought that was obvious!..... Regardless, even if they were ordered in by their CO, or their Government, they still committed troops to help another country. They don't want money, oil, or blood, just a bloody thankyou! Christ, where have chivalry and manners gone these days! Its a bloody disgrace! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 28 2002,17:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you'll notice that when the USA do these kind of action , they're immediatly saluted by the international communauty ..<span id='postcolor'> no, they get criticized nowadays but ran, one nation helping another nation's citizens are very common. and i'm sure on diplomatic level, even without public thanks, nations give thanx for help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Sep. 28 2002,17:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">but ran, one nation helping another nation's citizens are very common. and i'm sure on diplomatic level, even without public thanks, nations give thanx for help.<span id='postcolor'> i hope so , otherwise this lack of recognition would be a total lack of respect to the soldiers who risked their lives during this military operation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im not viewing it as anti west, im just saying that its a thankless job. besides i don't think those french really care if they get thanked or not, their just doing their job thats all.<span id='postcolor'> Okay look at it like this. If your the soldier, who has to go into a situation to help someone else, and theres a good chance you will be killed, frankly your going to be pretty pissed. Why the hell should you have to sacrifice yourself for something that has nothing to do with your country? So if they put themselves on the line, I'm sure that they would like some thanks for putting themselves in danger. Howver, you don';t get that choice. You go where you are ordered. Therefore if you do help out others at your own risk, a thankyou would be appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Sep. 28 2002,17:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">im not viewing it as anti west, im just saying that its a thankless job. besides i don't think those french really care if they get thanked or not, their just doing their job thats all.<span id='postcolor'> Okay look at it like this. If your the soldier, who has to go into a situation to help someone else, and theres a good chance you will be killed, frankly your going to be pretty pissed. Why the hell should you have to sacrifice yourself for something that has nothing to do with your country? So if they put themselves on the line, I'm sure that they would like some thanks for putting themselves in danger. Howver, you don';t get that choice. You go where you are ordered. Therefore if you do help out others at your own risk, a thankyou would be appreciated<span id='postcolor'> ok now that i looked at through your perspective now you can look through it from my point of view. getting shot at and putting your life on the line is what comes w/ the job as a soldier. if thats something somebody can't handle, than don't become a soldier. your payed to go in, rescue hostages, shoot up the bad guys, disarm bombs, and than pack up and go home. which is why soldiers who join the service, don't join just so they can expect a "thank you" when its all over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 i guess you've not been in the army yet ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok now that i looked at through your perspective now you can look through it from my point of view. getting shot at and putting your life on the line is what comes w/ the job as a soldier. if thats something somebody can't handle, than don't become a soldier. your payed to go in, rescue hostages, shoot up the bad guys, disarm bombs, and than pack up and go home. which is why soldiers who join the service, don't join just so they can expect a "thank you" when its all over.<span id='postcolor'> Your missing the point. You don't sign up and put your life on the line for other countries. I signed up for my countries armed services, but I wouldn't expect to get killed doing the work of another country without a damn good reason. And then, If I put my life on the line for another country, I wouldn't mind a thankyou. If I was to go into action, protecting my country and its citizens, I wouldn't want thanks. It would be my job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted September 28, 2002 well in todays world thats pretty much what it is your gona be doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
habdoel 0 Posted September 28, 2002 ran, how dare you. Kolwazi(in hte 70's) was not done by the france army alone. They did a chaotic parajump cleared the villige, but it was clear that there where no rebels accept for 10 or 20 in the city. Belguim did a storm landing (so troops can get orgenized out of the plane) en did evacuate the civilians. We never got thanx for that, the france made it sound like a we save them al action. THere was a very bad movie abouth that, a scandal. some people in belgium are still awating for a single thank you by the france. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (habdoel @ Sep. 28 2002,17:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ran, how dare you. Kolwazi(in hte 70's) was not done by the france army alone. They did a chaotic parajump cleared the villige, but it was clear that there where no rebels accept for 10 or 20 in the city. Belguim did a storm landing (so troops can get orgenized out of the plane) en did evacuate the civilians. We never got thanx for that, the france made it sound like a we save them al action. THere was a very bad movie abouth that, a scandal. some people in belgium are still awating for a single thank you by the france.<span id='postcolor'> personnally i'm really thankfull toward the belgians fro this operation , but not clearing the village would have retarded the belgian's advance and would have driven toward the slaughter of the european personnals present there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted September 28, 2002 Ran thank you from England, now please pass that on to your King and I'll be most happynessed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 a king ? huh ? where ? DEATH TO THE KING !!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted September 28, 2002 I know, we invade the country to re-install the monarchy and the aristo's. Put them back in power, go home, and then you cut their bloody heads off anyway! Typical! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted September 28, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ran @ Sep. 28 2002,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">a king ? huh ? where ? DEATH TO THE KING !!!!!!!!!!!!<span id='postcolor'> Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted September 28, 2002 king = bad queen = would you like to lend me your shoes miste...miss ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
