US Army 2035

[baddazs 10]

Hello folks!

I have begun the task of creating a unit addon that will feature the United States Army of 2035.

I am seeking peoples input on this addon.

I have asked for and received permission to use SMA weapons for this addon (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?181362-(SMA)-Specialist-Military-Arms) and I have also received permission to use the camo from Woods825s AVERS US4CES camo. (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?181474-AVERS-US4CES-Uniforms).

I will be creating 1 faction with 3 different camo patterns: OCIE, Arid and some special ops guys wearing black.

What I need from the community is some input on what weapon the units should use as a primary infantry rifle. The three main choices I offer all come from SMA: SCAR L, HK 416, or the Beretta ARX 160.

My reasoning for these choices is thus;

The Arma 3 Universe has clearly had army procurement programs go differently than they did in real life (eg, the Comanche). So I thought, what if instead of being cancelled, the US Army individual carbine competition was able to produce a replacement to the M4?

I have started my config work using the SCAR but that is very simple to change. At current, all I plan is infantry. However, if there is enough interest, I could expand this addon to include vehicles that the US army would be using in 2035 and adding them to this faction. An example might be to add Abrams tanks from some of the mods that offer them.

What do you think?

[Corvinus 35]

My vote goes for SCAR.

[Madbrood 12]

Thing is, we've already seen US personnel using the MX series, so you have to kind of assume they went with those rifles :( I would vote for the HK416 to be honest, it's much more similar to the existing platform and less bulky than the SCAR.

[devilslayersbane 28]

Here's a likely estimate of the US army in 2035:

-Multicam or a digital multicam

-M-ATV MRAP (already being adopted by the Army)

-Mk16/17 (mk17 currently used by SOCCOM)

-JLTV to replace the humvee (the humvee is not mine-protected where as the M-ATV is)

-AMPV (replacing the M113)

-GCV (replacing the Bradley)

Really the last 2 didn't have any reasonable pictures, most were artists impressions, so you can take pretty much anything you would want from that. There's been no award for the Army's J-LTV, either, meaning that it could go to any of the current competitors. You've got a lot of room to create what you think it could be. You could pull a bohemia and give us a bunch of Israeli vic's instead (please don't.) Just do something, friend. I'd like to see what you come up with.

[baddazs 10]

Here's a likely estimate of the US army in 2035:

-Multicam or a digital multicam

-M-ATV MRAP (already being adopted by the Army)

-Mk16/17 (mk17 currently used by SOCCOM)

-JLTV to replace the humvee (the humvee is not mine-protected where as the M-ATV is)

-AMPV (replacing the M113)

-GCV (replacing the Bradley)

Really the last 2 didn't have any reasonable pictures, most were artists impressions, so you can take pretty much anything you would want from that. There's been no award for the Army's J-LTV, either, meaning that it could go to any of the current competitors. You've got a lot of room to create what you think it could be. You could pull a bohemia and give us a bunch of Israeli vic's instead (please don't.) Just do something, friend. I'd like to see what you come up with.

I can do the M-ATV MRAP since its in game already, and I can do the SCAR, and finally, I think the camo ive chosen will work well. However, I am not making any new content with this addon. It is just a config that draws from other mods (with permission).

That said, if anyone out there wanted to make models, I'd config! I also agree with you about all the Israeli gear. Why??

[disco.modder 116]

I can do the M-ATV MRAP since its in game already, and I can do the SCAR, and finally, I think the camo ive chosen will work well. However, I am not making any new content with this addon. It is just a config that draws from other mods (with permission).

That said, if anyone out there wanted to make models, I'd config! I also agree with you about all the Israeli gear. Why??

Apparently the 7th ID which is the US Army in A3 wasnt in good condition, all the focus was in the Pacific vs CSAT and America couldnt afford to dispatch a few Galaxy's and Globemaster's to that part of the world to mobilise real American machinery like Abrams, Bradley, Strykers and whatnot... Thus Israel chucked a few of their tanks and APCs on a boat and sent it to the US Army on Altis! :D

[baddazs 10]

Is that the story? Where did you hear that? I wonder if that means the big expansion will give us our favorite vehicles in all there arma 3 glory!

Also for an update, I've nearly completed a very basic squad wearing OCIE armed with SCARs for now. I just need to make an Engineer, AA, AT Missile Spec, and then a group or two! Once those are done, Arid is a simple config swap.

Then I will make a special forces team

Edited September 15, 2014 by Baddazs

[disco.modder 116]

Similar to that yes.. Ive put a bit of my touch to it ;)

[Madbrood 12]

It's very unlikely they'll adopt SCAR, my money would be on a 416 upper receiver drop-in kit for existing lowers.

[baddazs 10]

Madbrood,

I think that I am inclined to agree with you, if they were to actually get a new rifle. I think for quite a while its gonna be the good ole M4.

But my mod assumes that the individual carbine competition went ahead and chose a successor. My personal choice is the Beretta ARX 160. Just a sexy looking thing to me. I just want people to vote and see which one I should give my guys!

[Iceman_TF_Timberwolf 12]

Similar to that yes.. Ive put a bit of my touch to it ;)

That's what's so great about Arma 3, BI left it to thd community to write a backstory!

[kubo4747 12]

I am for XM-8, ARX-160 or Tavor 21. And good idea is MPWS Bull-Up version to. It will maybe new Polish assault rifle.

Edited November 24, 2014 by kubo4747

[devilslayersbane 28]

I'm doing so! Check it out in my signature. As for this mod, I may be able to see what i can do in blender. no promises, though. You'll also need to find a guy who's good with textures.

[malcom86 33]

A rifle very similar to ARX-160 with some modifications for higher caliber and reliability, and more modular. This is how I see US Army rifle in the 2035.

[fluttershy 2]

I am just going to throw in some ideas of how i would think the consideration for a modern replacement for the M4 would look like in 2035.

I guess accepting STANAGs will be important, as well as staying the the 5.56 caliber. Since introducing a new weaponsystem is very expansive, based on the size of your military branches, beeing able to keep as much equipment as possible is a rather important point. You will also look at multiple version of the same platform for different areas of operation. Such as the current M16/M4 Family.

Maybee the best step is to use on of the several tools aviable online to build your own concept of assault rifle and carbine plattforms and go from there. The advantage you get from that is, no one can tell you something is off or not right, since the concept is yours and you are not taking direct reference to an existing system.

[Damian90 696]

There are several modern assault rifles/carbines offered on the market, we have FNAC based on SCAR, developed specially for US Army as M4/M16 replacement, there is ACR, there are also some other weapon systems, like MSBS which is promoted to US Army during AUSA exhibitions, MSBS also competes as a replacement for French Army FAMAS rifle.

As a side note, MSBS advantage is that it is first, true modular firearm, which means that there is common upper receiver, which depending on attached modules like lower receiver or handguard can be reconfigured from classic design to bullpup + each version (classic MSBS-K and bullpup MSBS-B) have several different variants, there is standard rifle, carbine, magazine fed machine gun and marksman rifle + each variant can have attached under barrel granade launcher (which can act also as a separate weapon) developed specially for MSBS. Also because of that modular design, this weapon can be quickly reconfigured for different callibers, the only modules that are needed to be changed are lower receiver (because of magazine well, 5,56mm magazines well won't accept magazine for 7,62 ammo mags), bolt carrier group and barrel.

MSBS is also fully ambidextrous, well probably it's the most ambidextrous and ergonomic rifle designed up to this day.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Damian90

[baddazs 10]

I am just going to throw in some ideas of how i would think the consideration for a modern replacement for the M4 would look like in 2035.

I guess accepting STANAGs will be important, as well as staying the the 5.56 caliber. Since introducing a new weaponsystem is very expansive, based on the size of your military branches, beeing able to keep as much equipment as possible is a rather important point. You will also look at multiple version of the same platform for different areas of operation. Such as the current M16/M4 Family.

Maybee the best step is to use on of the several tools aviable online to build your own concept of assault rifle and carbine plattforms and go from there. The advantage you get from that is, no one can tell you something is off or not right, since the concept is yours and you are not taking direct reference to an existing system.

Well, i'm not too sure about how actually expensive it would be to change calibers. It would be a phase out and phase in of the new weapon system. Not an overnight swap. And certainly different branches would drag thier feet when it came to changing (marinescough).

I'm trying to convince Blazenchamber from the SMA mod to make an ACR in 6.8 SPC, which is what I think I'll use for the infantry rifle.

Reasons:

I like the ACR.

6.8 SPC:

1) With the US engagments in Afganistan, and lots of soldiers claiming that 5.56 doesnt make people fall down, I beleive that it is not out of the realm of possibility that they would move to a slightly larger round.

2) The 6.8 SPC was made by the US army Marksmanship unit specifically to replace 5.56. It hasnt happened yet, but soldiers in the feild that have used 6.8 SPC love it.

3) I shoot a 6.8 SPC Robinson XCR IRL and I love it.

sooooo ya.

I may be swayed on the rifle, but I beleive that I will be going ahead and using the 6.8 SPC for the caliber.

I will again state that I am not making any content (except for a 6.8 SPC round config) no models, no uniforms, no vehicles for this addon. That is outside my knowledge and I don't have the time to learn. So my stuff will come from other mods. That said, if someone wants to give me new content to config and use, I would do it.